Let's debate American Politics

Who cares about storm front? They're irrelevant. Plus they'll find another country to host in anyway. Big deal.

Irrelevant yet pernicious crap. Great they're offline.

@jon357

President Trump...he won, Hillary and Sanders didn't. Perhaps if the dems weren't a bunch of backstabbing treacherous greedy pr!cks Sanders would be the president as he had a better chance than hillary. His rallies were full and he had far more support yet they still gave that crooked b!tch the nomination

The worst thing is that dems are more concerned that their lies and secrets were exposed. The voters ought to be more concerned with how low their party has sank to take away a nomination of a far more popular candidate.

Well the fact that many antifa are paid to protest is well known. You can sign up on soros website and even recruit friends to make more money ala pyramid, call one of the ads in the local paper or reply to the various Craigslist ads, sign up for crowds on demand, or simply go on an antifa forum as they're pretty open about this.

Most successful people their age aren't getting paid by the gig to protest they're in school or at work..

Antifa are scumbags that should be denounced. Yet, left behaves as if they hold the moral high ground or as if antifa wasn't the other face of fascism. They are condoning them.

They should be asked do they denounce antifa, they actions, Stalin, Pol-Pot and criminal ideology of communism. If they rescue treated them as the scum they are.

Parts of us def have gone downhill. There's always going to be a resistance to pc Marxist culture. California Illinois NYC etc will remain dem but now more and more people are switching over to the conservative sure. Even those states now have Republican leaders like the governor of illinois. Even if conservative voters are upset over things trump has done, there's more and more Republican senators reps governors etc. The south sure won't change anytime soon.

Dems have a choice either move further to the left and alienate voters like has happened in the most recent election cycle or move to the center and not force pc Marxism down peoples throats.

Also even if the rest of the us succumbs to this culture which i doubt will happen in my lifetime there's always Poland and the Slavic countries who honor and respect ideas like celebrating our culture, sovereignty, Christianity, etc.

@ironside

The tide will change. Especially now since its evident that antifa started the fight at Berkley. Even more left leaning outlets like washington post are admitting this and distancing themselves from these violent fascists. More will come

I did, but your answer came across as if relief efforts of churches are more valuable than all others.

Speaking of Christian "charity" by the way: have you read this? I know, it's the Daily Fail, but still...

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4831730/Pastor-Joel-Osteen-closes-church-Hurricane-Harvey.html

Aside from that Craigslist/Open Government Foundation lie (the right instinctively lie), there's a bit of excellent news: The so-called alt-right 'summer of hate' has been cancelled. They hate it when people stand up to them.

Lol except Greenpeace is just one of the many organizations that pays people to.protest. they just happen to advertise the most as there's always a Craigslist ad and newspaper ad. I can at least respect Greenpeace somewhat because they stand for a few ideas but antifa? No way

Lie huh? The funny part is the same source I quoted earlier, left leaning washington post says that protestors are paid .. They say 'so what?' lolol

washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/04/26/so-what-if-protesters-are-paid

foxnews.com/us/2017/06/27/paying-workers-to-protest-controversial-trend-social-justice-benefits.amp.html

There's tons of other respectable outlets proving that protestors are paid. This first came into the light about a year ago when dozens upon dozens of buses in Chicago were parked blocks away from a demo and black clad antifa types were seen waking to and from.

Sorry Jon but its widespread knowledge that many, of course not all, antifa type protestors are paid.

You can even go on one of many soros websites or antifa forum to join up and recruit your friends and get paid extra for brining in more people

Don't count on it. One need to fight to keep it right.


its run by leftie wusses. I think they won't stay there long if this trend of caving in antifa and other BS continuous.

Hahaha


Amazing that fascists tried to organise a 'summer of hate', spewing their filth wherever they could and when they get rightly pwned for doing it, their supporters squeal that those naughty anti racists are unfair.

You couldn't make it up!

Stop reading and posting fake news it was flooded at he time.

Watch the news video from the follow up on the story

//edition.cnn.com/2017/08/29/us/joel-osteen-houston-megachurch-criticism/index.html

The place was a swimming pool

what have we here a soviet a Stalinist happy to kill and maim people ( defame them for sure) in the name of his sick commie ideology and here and there he cry over spilt milk - you couldn't make it up! Clan up you act fist if you want make moral judgement on anyone. Right now its rick of hypocrisy and BS.

Sad that you advocate felonious assault..
At Charlottesville yes perhaps.. At Berkley, no as wapo says in the title 'peaceful right wing protestors' shame that you advocate attacking peaceful people. No wonder you won't denounce Islamic terror when a dude culturally enriches his gracious hosts by running them over with a van or blowing them up.

Its a shame that you and your fellow antifa comrades can't differentiate between the millions of conservatives that put trump in the white house and a small fringe movement. This is the folly of many Americans on both sides unfortunately. Just as a more intelligent and perceptive person can see that antifa doesn't represent dems and liberals, neither do some Nazis represent conservatives. So why so you equate the two and clap when peaceful people are attacked just because they didn't vote or support a candidate of yours and antifas preference? At least some leftist msm outlets are denouncing antifa because the mind of the American is so fickle and they don't want to lose ratings.. Or worse votes...

Anti racists? More like paid and organized unwashed beta males and beastly women. Oh I'm sorry I should be more pc and listed all the 72 genders that some of these snowflakes have chosen. Sorry for not 'respecting your pronoun' but nonetheless Im micro concerned about perceived micro aggressions. (Ah the garbage that snowflakes spew on campus makes one laugh). Im willing to bet there's even a few conservatives down on their luck who will chant phuck trump to make a few extra bucks.

'George Soros where's our money?! George Soros where's our money?!'

//youtu.be/dAqNw-fy808

This is why America is so torn up right now. Conservatives want to find a middle ground with dems so the country can be united after 8 years of race baiting politics. Unfortunately there's too many people like antifa and their soros type sponsors who want to continue this division. Its a divide and conquer strategy and you can't see it. Just because someone's dem or rep, liberal or conservative etc doesn't mean they can't compromise and male good bipartisan policies. But you, antifa, soros etc don't want that. You enjoy this division hoping for some Bolshevik workers revolution.. But sorry it's not gonna happen.. Too many people were put off by the policies of the ussr east Germany commie China not of course prl as well and the socialist leanings of Obama.

There you go again. Trying to put words in people's mouths.

As for the rest, beyond that first sentence: TL:DR

It's so funny to watch right-wingers get angry when things don't go their way.

quite a shocker rapport come out recently about Obama administration arming al qaeda in Syria.tons of leaked documents,and video evidence.
1 billion american taxpayers money wasted to arm al qaeda in Syria.bough in Czech republic,Bulgaria ,transported by Azerbaijan "silk way" airline company.
i mean why they do it?why western world love sunni terrorists so much?whats the thing ?
afganistan,balkans,kosovo,Chechenia,libia,syria..whats western world get for supporting and arming terrorist ?

trud.bg/350-diplomatic-flights-carry-weapons-for-terrorists
countries responsible for helping to arm al queda -including Poland,according to this report

Funny how you conveniently skip over things that destroy your theories I.e. antifa isn't soros funded...

Right wingers fetting angry when things don't go our way? Last time I checked trump is president and we republicans have majority control.

You know jon if you bothered to open your mind a little instead of just ignoring things that don't conform to your worldview youd get a far better understanding of a situation. By limiting yourself to only one side of the story, you're limiting the amount of knowledge you gain as well as your overall worldview. I identify as a conservative but that doesn't mean I will only read and watch conservative outlets. No I try to get an understanding of both sides of the situation. Of course every outlet puts a certain spin on things but that's why a person ought to understand where they're coming from. Perhaps that way we can find a middle ground but unfortunately the Marxists don't wasn't that

You ought to break off from that soros divide and conquer mindset masquerading behind an 'open society' and try it sometime. You'd actually learn something and become way less biased and objective. Its unfortunate that while some people are trying to unite the country after 8 years of race bait politics, others like soros and his antifa minions are furthering the divide. At least some people like wapo which I give credit to can At least call out unwarranted violence by antifa against peaceful demonstrators

There you go again. Promoting lies like:


As usual, as for the rest of the anguished rant: TL:DR

Fyi 'you're putting words in my mouth' and 'tldr' are cheap excuses to why you can't conduct a half decent debate. When you write 'they rightfully get pwned...' you are indeed supporting felonious assault. Come up with something new.

Not a rant.. I'm trying to help you out buddy to gain some knowledge and understanding.. To not be so closed minded..

Or maybe you don't like it when someone calls you out on being so biased? You won't even acknowledge facts if they happen to be from an outlet you don't like. That's what the red neck neo Nazis do bc they say such and such outlet is Jewish owned.. Yet you're doing the same thing.. You'd learn a lot about all sorts of situations including us politics if you didn't limit yourself to only one side of the story. Does Soros tell you guys to ignore articles that go against the divide and conquer inside out strategy masquerading as open society and democracy?

What debate? I have no interest in debating with you. This isn't the Oxford Union, and you wouldn't get in anyway.


Always fun to see right-wingers getting angry. It's predictable - they're full of malice, but still fun to sit and watch.

@jon357

Not angry. In fact I'm happy bc I have a great life. So why do you bother to respond if you're not debating ?

Your posts seethe with frustration and impotence.


For that matter, why do you try to perpetuate toxic right-wing myths.

@jon357

Then why are you replying to my 'impotent and frustrative' posts? I came to have a half decent civilized debate (by pf standards anyway). By saying things like that my posts are impotent and you're not debating me despite your regular responses makes you wonder why are you in fact replying? Are you bored? Are you actually interested in a half decent debate? What is it?

Just shows how quick you jump to assumptions... My life is great and I thank God everyday for my blessings and what I have. I don't ask for more. I don't pray for material goods nor do I shy away from challenges that life brings. But that's beside the point..

Open your mind man.. Explore things beyond your comfort zone. It'll make you far more worldly and be far more understanding and respectful of other people's ideas. Don't disregard facts just because they came from a source you don't like. I do - I read everything from fox to wapo to vox to hell even salon which is more lgbt leaning. If its a good story and objective idc who wrote it. However its something you seem unable to get around

I have shown antifa and other groups are often paid protestors and have used two washington post articles, a fox news article, and a video of antifa them selves as proof. So yes I have established my point and backed it up with numerous sources including a left leaning one. So no, no right wing myth here Jon. It seems like everything you disagree with or anything that challenges your pc Marxist views is a right wing myth no matter the proof. Kind of like the Soviets and north Koreans after them...

Oh wait tl dr, putting words in my mouth, I'm not debating, right wing myth, etc etc Right?

The whole American myth, 'life is great' when the country has some of the highest levels of poverty and inequality in the western world, 'life is great' when fascists try to organise a 'summer of hate', 'life is great' when their President is sabre rattlling about nuclear war, 'life is great' when that same 'president' is being investigated for treason with Russia. And an individual there writes 'life is great' when other posters here have been sharing the mugshot photos and more..

But hey, life is great. Perhaps white supremacists haven't been organising marches and it was all a dream.

As usual, I only read the first line. The rest is almost certainly same same.

@jon357

Like I said, my life is great. I can't speak for others. And big deal I have a misdemeanor it changed neither my professional life nor social life not anything. I pay some fines do a class and that's that. So now you're attacking me instead of discussing the topic at hand. Shame shame

Who among us can...

As you say, 'life is great'.

@jon357

Idk that's not up to me. I'm concerned mainly about my family and myself. I donate to charity but I'm not mother Theresa. I'm not out to change the world. I have enough to worry about. I'm not a multimillionaire and like everyone I have my own problems and challenges but overall life is good.

I once heard a short story by a Ugandan friend in college who told me about how a pregnant woman had to climb up a tree as her house was being swept away in a flood. She went into labor while hiding in the tree. She ended up having a healthy baby and rebuilding her hut. The point is there's always someone who has it far worse than you and they manage to resolve their problems

Happiness and life being great is subjective. Bhutan boasts one of the highest 'gross national happiness' ratings yet they're a fairly poor country.

Also I tend to surround myself with happy successful people who aren't pouting at how bad things are but are happy with their life and work toward having an even better future.

I gtg gotta get some stuff done before the day I didn't realize how long we've been chatting. Take care ttyl

TAMPA, Fla. - The University of Tampa has fired a visiting assistant professor who suggested in a tweet that Hurricane Harvey's destruction is "instant karma" for Texas because it voted Republican.

Sociology professor Kenneth L. Storey posted the tweet and two responses on Sunday before removing the entire thread and his profile photo.
University spokesman Eric Cardenas said in a statement on Tuesday that Storey was fired after the school weathered an outpouring of online outrage over the comments.

Better watch your hateful comments Mark or you may be next !
Take note that your comment has been documented.

Well the looting in Texas has already started.. I saw a video yesterday of two hood rats walking with like 60 inch led tv's over their head... One of the idiots dropped it lol. Meanwhile nappy headed hood rats appeared to be raising a dollar store and beauty supply. Smdh.. Even the volunteer Cajun navy has reported being attacked by people. People put them selves in danger and volunteer to use their own boat to help other and this is the thanks they get..

Also id like to point out houston is actually one of the most diverse and integrated cities in the us. But yes Texas has been conservative for a long long time and probably will remain as such. Its a wonderful state one of my friends from grade school moved there and she absolutely loves it. The homes are way cheaper, low taxes, big Christian community, etc. Its one of the few large God fearing Bible thumping Gun toting states and people tend to still be hard working and seize upon opportunities instead of handouts. The jobs are rather good paying too esp in oil and gas combined with a lower cost of living than like NYC LA etc. At the same time its rather diverse too in terms of racial makeup.

Its sad how some people could wish harm and even death to others just because of political differences. This country has really gotten pretty rotten in that regard. Its like everyone and everything has become divided along political lines. That seems to be just what certain elites wanted. Divide and conquer. Could war be next? Who knows... At the very least instability and some unrest here and there. The markets are doing great though overall ever since trump began his presidency. The weird thing is gold has rallied too. It was going down down down the past year hitting a low right around the election and now were over 1300. Anyway, time and time again trump and others have called for unity only to be ignored and further criticized. The msm attacks him more than any other president i can think of since o was young yet he's done a lot of good. He's not perfect but they don't applaud his achievements. He says lets unite and heal as a natiin, the left says impeach him for this impeach him for that

Anyway well see what happens. For now definitely pray for the people in Houston and send a few bucks if possible..

That could quite be possible why you don't get it then jon.


Which is totally legal in America if you have the proper permits (which they did) and is called "Freedom of Speech" that you Lefties are always harping on.

You want it yet you don't think the other side should be afforded the same and claim fascism.
We call that hypocritical jon.
The Antifa's are the ones doing the attacking jon not the other way around as you suggest with your erroneous propaganda.
Now, I dug this up just for you to read the entirety of so you may get a clue to the truth and what is really going on in America besides what you read in the bias Left Commie newspapers.

This article explains it VERY clearly !
This is written by a INDEPENDENT NEWS PAPER that even includes a video if you are to closed minded to read the article.

Secret's out !
Why cops are standing down in Berkeley and beyond
wnd.com/2017/08/secrets-out-why-cops-are-standing-down-in-berkeley-and-beyond/#tTlMelJr3aHFxOgf.03y

It was actually called the 'Summer of Hate'. In their own words.