Let's debate American Politics

Yah, so they can flush the book down right away! LoL


Hillary has turned off women voters towards the Democrats. The mid-terms should be a clean sweep for the Rep`s and of course Trump will be re-elected.

Imagine the size of the meltdown that is coming!!! Haha:)


They donated them to Antifa along with payments to their protesters.

Hillary had no clear message! She would have been great for empowering affirmative action women incompetents in fields such as medicine, often purposely put there as doctors to do away with "expendable demographics" such as seniors, the honestly needy, or the middle class who weren't able to become entrepreneurs etc.

Other than that, she was too full of pie-in-the-sky liberal pollyannisms a la Elizabeth Warren with her tear-jerking homily about her poor (WASP) mom who raised several children simply by working at a Sears in the early 60's.. COME ONE, LIZ!!!

In a way, I'm glad The Donald won, if only to show the US-electorate (like Chuck Schumer said) that "....there's trouble in America. Not Democratic trouble, and not Republican trouble, just plain trouble!"

No vision for the country whatsoever just the same old continued failed policies. After she rigged the election against Bernie I'm surprised anyone voted for her.

Now, if she just would only go away and stop blaming everybody else for her defeat and be quiet already! Lol


How about her lying by claiming to be a native American Indian to receive special grants to pay for her college. She's been lying for decades.


He's way better than the alternative. I always said give him a chance, but they chose to be the party of resist and Trump is mowing right over them!

I think he's right about the NFL flag thing as well. These players make 10s of millions of dollars because of the USA our veterans and first responders.

It`s totally disrespectful and shouldn't be allowed. The NFL has so many silly rules against stickers, socks, etc....

This should be a rule or you're fired! Let them go work at McDonalds and see how much they can make if they don't like standing for the national anthem.

She's a liar and a crook. She doesn't give a **** about gay marriage or wasps or helping poor peope or Nazis or commies or n e thing like that. To her it was a way to easily enrich herself and gain ppwer- and she realized that after her young years in the 60s and 70s. No honest politician much less a husband and wife team makes 400 mil without running a major business or some huge inheritance. Maybe even deep in her mind esp at the end the knew her chance of losing was much greater than all the pollsters msm celebrities and all the people that were bought for over 1 bil let on. Maybe it was a way for her to retire peacefully, write a book that will add a few extra mil (all famous people seem to write a tell all as their careers wind down) and gradually sell off her connections so she still has some semblance of control. Only really she and her closest confidants really know. Either way she's gonna be fine and so will they. No more b.s. and crocodile tears for us inner cities gays Muslims whatever. I'm sure we won't hear the last of her daughter though.

If anything Obama somewhat tried to implement some of the ideals and principles he believed in but he was far too theoretical and not practical. It didn't work out too well to say the least but that's another story...

Trump is the opposite - a fairly practical a$$hole although he shoots from the hip a bit too often and seems to have a bit of an ego problem and can't seem to get along with people aside from his own family and closest friends. This is understandable considering the trump organizations very vertical structure.

I'm only about 40 50 pages into what happened as it just came on Thursday and I haven't had time to get into it. So far it seems like a giant blame game of all the forces that were against her - minus the dodgy exposure of her financiers and campaign as well as personal capital which like the dems currently in office and their supporters are more mad about opposition collusion which yes more than likely involved Russia.. So what? Big deal get over it. Governments do this all around the world. The dems are just mad bc they were beat in the game.

She should've ditched the political bs and wrote a book on money laundering instead.

What happened to free speech? You know, the thing that some of you guys demanded for your brothers and sisters from the KKK in Charlottesville? ;)


Agreed.

@TheOther

Nothing. Free speech is guarunteee by the constitution regardless of how stupid it is.

When you are an employee, in this case of an NFL football team, and you are not acting in accordance with whatever their employee guidelines its up to management corporate lawyers etc to take whatever action they deem necessary. In this instance, the players kind of have them by the balls due to their celebrity and support from groups like blm and others who wish to continue a legacy of division. In return the NFL team is scared to fire them for fear of bad pr and lost fans, revenue, etc. This is a unique circumstance. The Google guy who wrote about the fact that the tech industry (which I also work in) is mostly white male dominated is nothing new or shocking despite all the creeds mottos etc. Yet he was fired bc in that instance he exercised his free speech while representing an employer. Google found out, some cuck or feminist from pr got their panties in a bunch and decided that letting him go was the most strategic decision. The guys a white collar engineer not a multi million dollar salaries athlete hence expendable and replaceable. He didn't say anything that bad or shocking but sometimes people simply don't like hearing or even more so having the truth exposed. At every tech company I've been in whether as an employee consultant rep contractor whatever they do hire minorities but nonetheless the most qualified candidates in mid to high level positions continue to mainly be mostly white males with Asians and Latinos (mostly male as well) in 2nd and 3rd. There's very few blacks working in tech esp fintech engineering etc and the ones that do work typically are in cs.

They are representing the NFL and are paid employees and could be fired for misconduct. Roger Goodell enforces all kinds of other silly rules for the players, but condones anti americanism. They NFL network is losing customers and ppl are going to boycott the games now.


When they are teaching 8 year old kids to disrespect the flag it becomes brainwashing.

I can easily solve the problem!

Remove the national anthem from sporting events, since the mindless athletes have turned it into a political movement. Half of them don't even know why they're protesting, they just follow each other like sheep. There aren't many intelligent football players, most of them are bad role models as well.

@Joker

Personally i've never liked football or even most sports all that much except for boxing and mma. A boycott won't gain traction in the us far too many people basically live to watch football.

I read a headline earlier that the Steelers were gonna sit in their locker room during the anthem but I couldn't care enough to actually open the article and read the rest. Maybe well start seeing brainwashing at major sporting events? Too many people in the us and now eu too know their life sucks, hate their life, know they're not free but can't figure out what to do about besides go from one distraction to another. Since today is Sunday the order of the day is football beer and potato chips for obese diabetics along with pc commercials for their youngins. I don't watch football or eat burgers.. To many that makes me unamerican

Wha Hoo ! You Go Boys !
To bad we can't get on the nightly news and tell it how it is but since we re Politically Incorrect we know that will never happen.

It was on the news with pictures of the half empty NFL stands in their first two NFL games with attendance way down again this year.

Now for sure when people quit going the rest of this year it will be blamed on Trump for the NFL folding.
Trump has stressed that it is not about race, it is about the people (White, Black and Brown) that have served our country and sacrificed the ultimate for our flag.

Anybody that wants to disrespect our flag has no rights including freedom of speech because without the people of this country that sacrificed their lives for that flag we would have no freedoms.

However being that 80% of the NFL is made up of Black over paid players that you read about weekly for murder, drug involvement, rapes, shootings, intoxication, fights, spouse abuse, ect. that are suppose to be role models for our youth.

Hopefully the attendance will drop to nill and have it backfire so the NFL, owners, coaches and players so they are all out looking for a real job like putting the American flag up the pole for their first duty of the day.

Exactly. Do it like the rest of the world: play the national anthem only at international sporting events.

Next you will want to take it out of high school sporting events that teach our children about team work, pride, integrity and God and Country.

The Commies are doing everything they an to destroy America and there is nothing more patronizing then to stand with your hand over your heart facing the flag with your hat off while the National Anthem is being played and sung.

You can't handle that then like President Trump said, "fire the son of a *******" and they can go back to the country they claim their ethnicity.

I agree with him 100% and so does America's military (past and present) and first responders that give their lives for that flag so "WE" can have our freedoms that no other country in the world have.

tRump should do his job and not rant on Twitter at 3 a.m. in the morning about some NFL folks that do not stand up for the national anthem. Priorities...

Nobody actually wants that clown to do his job - people are waiting for him to fade away with as little scandal as possible.

He's done a splendid job of spreading the protests. Give it 12 months and the anthem might not even be played anymore at sports games because of his actions.

As many NFL team owners have said, they respect the right to personal belief. It's a shame that Johnny and friends hate their fellow Americans so much that they want to ram their beliefs down their throats.

Just back yesterday from your latest suspension from this forum and you're already baiting.
This forum is open to everyone and you need to stop leaning on and bullying people who have a different opinion to your own.........

Its unbelievable what this person is able to get away with on this forum, its not worth replying to him anymore.
Who else comes to this forum with the objective to constantly fight with ppl? Btw, If he were a Real teacher would he act or behave this way?

He's just a troll, nothing more, in 20 years from now, he will still be here "the king of trolls"..hahahaha!

He's not going anywhere! You libturds sure can't seem to remember the words of your anointed one " elections have consequences "

You should be thankful that we have TRUMP to clean up the mess of the past failed foreign polices which leads us at todays disaster named

North Korea

Im sure Crooked Hillary could handle it much better!

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True, very true.
The Left media fight him with lies, waste of times, focus on b.s., so President Trump can't do his job efficiently as he could otherwise.


Trump has to explain everything to the Left for them to GET IT.
Firstly it IS NOT anyone's right to protest their personal beliefs while on the job.
Off the clock you can protest your personal beliefs all you want to.
Notice how the Liberal media cameras didn't show the rest of the 99% of the stadium STANDING for the anthem while just a few of the over paid that had their captive audience who paid good money to be entertained by these over paid jerks knelt.

Just wait until the 99% protest and quit going to the games at $90 a ticket and their is no money to pay the owners or players.

Sorry but America is behind Trump all the way on this one despite what the media wants you to think.

Our freedom is a mere illusion and being eroded more and more everyday. However, at least we still have some semblance of free speech, right to bear arms, etc. Many other countries don't have that especially with guns and free speech. In many European countries you can get a fine or even jail for saying certain political things or questioning certain versions of history. Nonetheless, overall I feel that I have far more freedom in Poland than US - that's for sure. I think it's more of a sort of general freedom with my own life though where I can do whatever I want whereas in the US I feel more tied down. Nonetheless, in PL the free speech and right to bear arms in general are more strict than US. One thing that bugs me is US citizens basically become a number (social security) to the state. That's not freedom. If it were up to me I'd prefer not to have a social security number and not get any sort of bogus check at retirement that'd be far less than I pay in anyway but that decision was forced upon me. So in certain ways, no we aren't free. We're also financial slaves since any person born on US soil is already basically in debt since birth. Nonetheless, at least we still have the option to live in a remote area, grow and hunt our own food, live in a home build with our own hands, etc... till you're asked to pay a property tax or something else and if you don't you'll have a lien, IRS, etc chasing after you... As an Eritrean dictator once said - 'Tie a long enough rope on a chicken and it'll think it's free'

I think of the 31 American Navy Seals that were killed in Afghanistan to appreciate my freedoms of late.

@johnny reb

I feel for the soldiers serving our country, I really do. The thing is though most of the wars they're fighting in aren't for the benefit of average Americans. When it's a country or state actor attacking the US like in Pearl Harbor or even proxy wars against the USSR back in the day that's different. We don't have such wars now anymore aside from the self perpetuating war on terror which is really just a scam to divert more tax money into security administrations and the military which ironically are the ones helping to create a police state locally with the helps of friendly politicians who sign laws to ever decrease privacy and erode the 4th amendment. That's why it irks me when people say 'Our boys are fighting for our freedom' or when someone asks why'd you fight in Afghanistan/Iraq/etc - and they respond 'For American freedom....' I'm sorry but if you're going to fight for freedom, you can do it at home. Fight against the people who eavesdrop . Our freedom isn't threatened by a sheep farmer in Afghanistan with radical views but more the politicians and corporations interested in limiting free speech, expanding gun control, censoring the web, surveillance of our phones/computers/etc. That's where American freedoms are in danger - not on another continent, and it's actually American politicians, certain lobby groups, and federal organizations (esp CIA, DHS, IRS, and the Fed) that are the ones threatening the freedoms we have left. At least some people like Ron Paul and Stossel along with their followers and supporters see this though and are doing what they can to stop it.

The owner of the Dallas Cowboys disagreed with you...


What exactly does Afghanistan have to do with your personal freedom in September 2017? Bin Laden is dead.


Very true. That's why it is so important to stand up to people like Bannon, Pruitt and Sessions.


There's a reason for that.

Yeah, they don't have freedom of speech like we do. Too bad for them. At least here we can still debate different versions of history and not just automatically accept the side the state and education system tells us to.


I was thinking more about groups like the Fed, DHS, SSA, etc as well as certain individuals that pass bogus laws like Bush did with the Patriot Act which erodes the 4th amendment. Same with the democrats trying to erode the 1st amendment. They go to speeches, conferences, etc escorted by armed guards yet they're gonna tell Americans to give up their guns - forget it.

Bannon is one of the few people leading an outlet that isn't kissing the collective asses of politicians aipac lobbies etc like msm does and isn't concerned at all about being pc. If anything he's promoting freedom showing that we don't have to accept media outlets that view everything through a rosy pc lens.

I believe that kneeling during our National Anthem should be between the players and their conscience! To penalize fellow citizens for acting their conscience is tantamount to treason and our Tweeter-in-Chief ought to be ashamed of himself.

It is already backfiring on them Lyzko.
NO, when your boss says that you will not wear a mini skirt, expose your tattoo's, and dye your hair orange when you are serving his cliental that is where freedom of expression stops.

When you are being paid to do a job then you do as your employer says.
On your own time you can express yourself anyway that you want to.
Get it now ?

No, I don't "get it" and apparently, neither do you or your ilk!! It's not equivalent to flag burning (which I don't condone and probably would prosecute), offending all who honor and respect the flag. Kneeling aka opting out of acknowledging the symbolism of the flag is guaranteed by our Constitution and bears no connection with a boss ordering an employee to perform an act against their beliefs:-)

That is very obvious to the point you can't call yourself an American.
YOU'RE FOCUSING ON POLICE BRUTALITY, AS IF THAT'S THE DEEPEST PROBLEM IN BLACK INNER CITIES.
It isn't.
Ask yourself what the real problems in inner cities populated by black people ?
Violent crime, drugs, gangs, poverty, jobs stolen by Globalists and sent to foreign lands, toxic chemicals (lead in water, landfills where corporate pollutants are dumped), absence of fathers in homes, unsafe neighborhoods, making education highly difficult, grossly sub standard nutrition, junk food.

These are the most real problems, police brutality is far down on the list.
If the NFL protestors want to make a difference, they need to stand up and do something harder than they're doing now.
Right now, they're unwitting agents of NO CHANGE and racial divide and conquer.
Disrespecting the flag isn't going to do anything for the NFL players besides put them on the welfare roll in due time.



I an explain it to you Lyzko but I can't make you understand it.

@Lyzko

If they did it on their time... fine... However they are not - they are EMPLOYEES of an organization. They aren't doing this on their time off work - they're doing this at work..

Meanwhile Kapernick is still unemployed because no one wants to sign him.... Maybe he should make his own league with his fellow take a knee'ers

To repeat myself: The owner of the Dallas Cowboys was okay with it.

He's not even that good of a player anymore and with all this new baggage who would want him? The NFL`s ratings and sales have been trending downwards for a while now. This latest stunt will only add to the decline.


I couldn't care less about professional sports anymore and stopped going to Cubs games a few years back, bc I felt like I was being legally robbed at Wrigley Field. Pro athletes are way overpaid, they are supposed to have an college education but we all know thats a joke! These guys are mostly thugs!


The left is all about disrespect, they politicized pro sports whats next?

It`s been going on for a long time, but they never took it down to this low of a level.