Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians

If a woman's been raped and forcible penitration can be medically proven, who gives a rat's ass about abstract notions regarding the "sanctity of unborn life"!!!

What about the very "born" body of the poor girl/young woman who'd been violated??! Stop penalizing the innocent and start punishing those in fact guilty!

It's no longer a man's world, but a people's planet.Why do you constantly devalue women??
:-)

Actually you are devaluing the woman and the murdered child's life.

Afraid I can't follow your perpetual illogic. Simple truth: A woman's body is as inviolable as a man's and if a woman is raped, it is usually NOT be choice!!

Therefore, if an abortion is the only way to save the WOMAN'S life in question, so be it. You're arguing abstractions based on Biblical injunctions formulated by illiterate men ignorant of modern science. The sacred Word is meant to be interpreted, not taken literally:-)

If a woman can't afford to have children, either provide a work environment which will enable her to help support the child, i.e put up, shut up or drop dead!!!

You can't have it both ways, Johnny.

You have illogic mixed up with FACTS.


Adoption


What has modern science have to do with cold blooded murder ?


Wrong, the parables are to be interpreted, the word is to be taken literally as in Thou Shall Not KILL.
How else can that be interpreted unless for a liberals convenience.


Gee, let's not mention responsibility or accountability here.
Adoption or keep her knees together, her choice, not the unborns death sentence.


I just put up and now you can Fukc off and go die if death is no big deal to you.


There is only one way and it isn't promoting murder.

Why do you want rapists to reproduce? My personal opinion is that in cases of rape, abortion is the most ethical decision. I'd rather that rapists had fewer children running around than more.

I don't.


Ethics are a "moral decision" so abortion would not be ethical.


Most rapist get twenty years in prison which solves that problem

Then why do you want to compell their victims to give birth? (you do understand how that works, don't you?|)


You don't prove a case by asserting it. I disagree that abortion (in some cases) is immoral. You don't want to convince me otherwise, you just want to force me to follow your ethical positions. Force =/= morality.

Why do you want to compel the victims to commit murder ? (You do understand that killing a human being is murder don't you ?)


Then why are you are asserting your beliefs on me ?


Not at all, each to his own, YOU are the one that will have to answer to the charge of Thou Shall Not Kill, not me.

Just don't try to p iss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
When you take an innocent life it is called murder. PERIOD !

Murder constitutes the willful taking of an innocent life! An aborted fetus is neither a life (as yet, having no consciousness) nor an innocent, being as it's not developed enough to be able to be cognizant of its surroudnings!

These are FACTS, not parables, fairy tales, Bible stories or opinions:-)

If someone makes an accountability mistake, let them be forgiven for it in order that that might learn. If not, you'll soon see WWII played out on the streets of every American city and town...sooner than you'd like to think.

Not everyone agrees that fetuses are "human beings" (a term which implies consciousness and moral agency).


I'm not. If you want to try to convince people to not have abortions, then more power to you. But don't try to use the law to coerce others into following your particular morality.


Possibly. But I'm not a Christian (or any religion, I'm incapable of religious faith) so I kind of doubt it.


Fetuses do not have the status of "innocent life" for many people and it's hard to make the case for their moral status apart from religious arguments (which should have no status in civil law).

It was alive before it got aborted though wasn't it.


Exactly and when you stop a beating heart just what in the hell would you call that.


Oh Lord, stomp your feet, threaten and cry all you want because "if" that ever happened you Snow Flakes would crap your pants.
Now take your Prozac and quit your idle threats before they come get you.


A heartbeat is considered life wouldn't you say.

It had no independent status form the mother

Besides it's independent heartbeat.

So? Why is that an issue?

Four-legged critters got heart beats, pulses, all that stuff, yet they AIN'T human:-) What's the difference between aborting an unborn human "life" vs. that of a dog, a hippo, a tiger or a bear, huh?? Johnny, you got things a little twisted here, son.

Many churches bless animals in the US, the Bible even asserts that there's a special place in Heaven for the non-human species!!!

Humans have souls


"I" have things twisted......and Jesus wept


Please quote such scripture verses for us.

Churches DO though on occasion, bless animals, only to reiterate:-)

Your rhetoric about "killing a fetus ergo killing a soul" simply doesn't hold water! If the woman's life is at stake, abort the fetus and save the woman, a LIVING soul as well, yet aware of the value and meaning of the life around her, HER life, for which she oughtn't be penalized for simply being what we all are...HUMAN aka FALLIBLE!!! If someone such as you, Johnny, were made to pay for all your errors in judgement, your "soul" would be probably be damned so many times, by the time you reached the other place, ol' Nick himself would doubtless exclaim, YOU AGAIN??

You still don't get it, Lord knows, you never will.

That argument doesn't work with the areligious.

Fetuses do not have consciousness (which many mistake for 'souls').

Right again, Maf!

My advice would be "Go thou forth from the presence of the foolish man, from whom thou doest not perceive the lips of knowledge" In other words, don't waste your time arguing with a (certifiable) moron:-)

Speaking of certified morons................


What's the matter LOUD MOUTH KNOW IT ALL.......having trouble finding those verses in the Bible are you ? LOL
You still don't get it, Lord knows, you never will.

Such an American thing to say. If you really had gone to a Catholic school like you claim, you'd be well aware of the Catholic teachings on this subject.

Then again, why am I not surprised that you don't know about the teachings on the subject?

...or any subject, it seems:-)

Easy to distort Scripture to fit right-wing ideology. The "Good Book" has probably been used for more bad purposes than nearly any religious text extant, perhaps second only to the Qu'ran! The Upanishads don't promulgate violence against non-believers, do they? I've forgotten. How about the Bhavagita?

Now watch Mr. Confidence itself have the meltdown he gloats about others having.

Ho-hum

Are you stalking my posts AGAIN Dirtball ?
If you have nothing constructive to add to the topic and just want to troll then STFU !


I am not distorting anything Loudmouth.
You are wallowing in one of your endless merry go rounds again to re - direct because you are embarrassed that you claimed false teachings and now you can't back it up.

See how rumors get started ?
Easy for a Liberal to distort Scripture to fit - left wing ignorance.


So Mr. Know It All, perhaps you could tell us the chapter and verses to back up your claim.
Now watch 'Mr. Know It All' have a meltdown and go off on another bunny trail to avoid answering my question.
Ho - Hum

The funniest thing is that he claims to have been brought up Catholic, in which case, he would be well aware that Catholicism regards it as not being literal and shouldn't be taken literally. He would do well to follow the teachings of Saint Francis of Assisi.

Define "it" for us.
You would do well to follow anything but your church of Me-isms.

He also claims to be a human being, Delph, yet as of present, I've yet to witness any proof of either a soul, a conscience or a brain:-)

How did I know this.........lmao !

Interesting as well that throughout it all, the bomb threats, cemetary desecrations etc. our wonderful Dud-in-Chief has been curiously silent.
Makes ya wonder whether he's on our side, the other side, or (most likely) his own side!

So someone just like you. eh?
I would think that you of all people would be very careful not to make hasty and authoritative judgment on what is life and who can be called a full human being and who is only a subhuman non-entity no-life that can be deposed at will for the convenience of his betters.

But then who pray are one's "betters", Ironside?? The likes of you, Johnny, legion Trumpists at large??
I scarcely think so. Now, that's really the pot calling the kettle black:-)