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Ironside
13 Mar 2017  #421

But then who pray are one's "betters", Ironside??

No, likes of you, neither I nor Johnny have an audacity to declare that an unborn child is not even a life and can be disposed like a garbage.

Lyzko
13 Mar 2017  #422

Who said anything about "garbage"? Your words, not mine:-)

Lyzko
13 Mar 2017  #423

Remember, raising children costs money! The younger a woman is, the more likely she'll be to make a severe, life-changing error in judgement.
Even in a staunchly Catholic country like Poland, all young women aka teens NEVER forget to make that little trip to the drug store for a rubber??!

Come one, Ironside. If the present Pope can wink his eye on certain doctrines of faith, the very least you can do is to be a little flexible.

Francis is the exception here. Let him lead by his good example!!
:-)

mafketis
14 Mar 2017  #424

Even in a staunchly Catholic country like Poland, all young women aka teens NEVER forget to make that little trip to the drug store for a rubber??

Huh? In Poland they're sold in grocery stores, usually next to the candy by the check out registers (they used to be sold in Ruch kiosks as well and may well still be).

jon357
14 Mar 2017  #425

Every petrol station sells them too, and most newsagents and kiosks also sell pornography.

The aforementioned supermarkets and petrol stations also sell flavoured sexual lubricants for whatever purpose.

Lyzko
15 Mar 2017  #426

Here too, Maf! It's all a question in the end of cultural mores:-)

johnny reb
15 Mar 2017  #427

No, likes of you

Here too Ironside, it all boils down to the Believer vs. the non - Believer.

Lyzko
15 Mar 2017  #428

Oh, I'm a believer, Johnny! Only difference between you and me is, you are a "Hypochristian" and I'm a true believer...in TRUTH, not fiction:-)

If I need to make allowances for the frailties of being human, unlike you sir, I'm ready, willing, and able to do so after due consideration. Nor am I a Puritan, who punishes gladly and without Christian mercy. Again, I DON'T deem personal weakness some punishable, moral failure of a lesser being.

To quote Emerson, "A foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds."

Guess your mind (if you even have one) is pretty little, as its consistency is consistently foolish!
lol

Ironside
15 Mar 2017  #429

and I'm a true believer...in TRUTH, not fiction:-)

What is truth? You cannot handle the truth and that is your problem.
''A man in all the world's new fashion planted,
That hath a mint of phrases in his brain.
One who the music of his own vain tongue
Doth ravish like enchanting harmony.''
There..

Lyzko
15 Mar 2017  #430

Oh, I'm a believer, Johnny! Only difference between you and me is, you are a "Hypochristian" and I'm a true believer...in TRUTH, not fiction:-)

If I need to make allowances for the frailties of being human, unlike you sir, I'm ready, willing, and able to do so after due consideration. Nor am I a Puritan, who punishes gladly and without Christian mercy. Again, I DON'T deem personal weakness some punishable, moral failure of a lesser being.

To quote Emerson, "A foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds."

Guess your mind (if you even have one) is pretty little, as its consistency is consistently foolish!
lol

johnny reb
16 Mar 2017  #431

Oh, I'm a believer, Johnny!

I know, you believe that all good dogs and cats go to heaven.........LITERALLY !

the Bible even asserts that there's a special place in Heaven for the non-human species!!!

And Jesus wept.

Nor am I a Puritan, who punishes gladly and without Christian mercy.

Right, we notice how you Jews punish without mercy Palestine.

Again, I DON'T deem personal weakness some punishable, moral failure of a lesser being.

That is another one of Emerson quotes, do you have any words of your own or do you just plagiarize others to appear to be an intellect ?

(You must be feeling very stupid about right now to be exposed)

Guess your mind is pretty little, as its consistency is consistently foolish!

May I quote Emerson: "To be great is to be misunderstood." :-)
Now for the love of Mary can we get back on topic as you have gone off topic on another one of your pointless merry go rounds.

You trying to get this thread closed too ?
You are a big fake Lyzko.

Lyzko
16 Mar 2017  #432

You belittle yourself, Johnny, in your repeated paultry attempt to belittle others, least of all myself:-)

I pray you find wisdom....hopefully before we're both deadLOL

johnny reb
16 Mar 2017  #433

least of all myself

That's because you preach with false authority.
You just quoted an American author pretending that it was your own words.
So see, YOU belittled yourself again.
I just pointed it out to the other posters here how you preach B.S. with false authority.
When I challenge your B.S. in a debate you go off on a bunny trail of your pointless merry go round to avoid more embarrassment.

This thread is not to bash each other so WHY do you CONSTANTLY go off - topic to do it ??????????
You are trying to get this thread closed aren't you.

Lyzko
16 Mar 2017  #434

It is YOU, Johnny, who preaches with false authority, since you pretend to be conversant with Catholic dogma, yet in prior posts, have made inquiries suggesting you have little to any idea on this subject:-)

delphiandomine
16 Mar 2017  #435

yet in prior posts, have made inquiries suggesting you have little to any idea on this subject:-)

Couldn't agree more. It's pretty obvious that he wasn't brought up Catholic, as any Catholic knows that "scripture" is not to be taken literally.

johnny reb
17 Mar 2017  #436

"scripture" is not to be taken literally.

Perhaps you should go read Deuteronomy Chapter 5 called the Ten Commandments and then come back here and tell us that scripture is not to be taken literally as the egg drips from your face once again Dirtball.

(By the way.......Adrian wants your new address so he can come visit you.)

It is YOU, Johnny, who preaches with false authority

No it was you that said that animals go to heaven Pal.

you have little to any idea on this subject

No, it's you who is clueless.
I have done nothing but bury you time and time again on the subject.
To start with:
Your Liberal 'verbiage' is inaccurate.
I am anything BUT a "under" Christian.
(This truly illustrates the adage, A little knowledge is Dangerous. And you 'do rise' to that occasion.)
I am a 'practicing' Christian with a very STRONG and VIABLE Faith in OUR LORD and the Teaching of the Scriptures.
Where as your "Faith" is strictly based in "Progressive - ism" and what the Marxist Liberal Principles espouse!
(A truly FAILED Political Concept that has failed EVERYWHERE it's ever been tried !
But, it remains the rallying point for you Quasi Communists.
Pathos, indeed.

I'm a true believer...in TRUTH, not fiction

So , you're a "True Believer" !
'Which means your "Faith" is based on 'Scientific data'.

Which indeed, flushes you out of the bushes as, basically an 'atheist' whose Mother wasted her time in 'Forcing' you to attend Vacation Bible School, and later, Church Services, to learn the GOSPELS.

It obviously DIDN'T TAKE. ('Sympathies' for the poor woman! She must be PROUD ! )
Your TRUTH is 'marginal' at best.
{I am using certain grammatical 'emphasis' in order to get your Attention to certain points.... noticing your lack of "LATIN education" in your "Hypochristian" reference.

Please Keep to basic English, you'll be more 'relevant'.... if that is even possible.}
That being said....
Being a "True believer...in TRUTH, not fiction"... ALSO denotes your submersion into LIBERALISM; i.e. You belief in HILLARY & BILL CLINTON, NANCY PELOSI , AND...that you can "keep your DOCTOR....AND your insurance Policy" !

(You no DOUBT ...sleep on Barack Obama Sheets at night...in your little RACE CAR bed ! )
Nice.... This Fragile and Ideological 'belief-system' must give you a REAL Sense Of COMFORT when you're facing "hard-times".... ( or do you just 'think' of Barak & Michelle .... and, suddenly, everything is "ROSY" ! ) yup. ( ...speaking of your "frailties"...)

The "Due Consideration" you refer to.... isn't based on any FAITH or Ecumenical Wisdom, it's based on the CONSIDERATION.... that YOUR Leftist Marxist Progressive "Cavalry' will come "Riding-Up" on their "WAR-Hogs" ....AND SAVE YOUR CONSIDERABLE "BACON!" ( how fitting! )

Fascinating that you should even consider "Christian Mercy" .... I 'm Very Sure: .... THAT chapter does NOT Exist in Your 'Personal-Bible"...."RULES FOR RADICALS" ( ...Your poor Christian Mother....she tried !) "YOUR SAVIOR"....Saul Alynsky....as the Marxist Communist that he WAS ( ask Hillary about that,

Her College Thesis was on that 'Ideological Genius' ) is the foundation of your 'Religion' which ALSO espouses CLIMATE CHANGE TOTAL AND COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION OF OUR COUNTRY INTO "SHARIA Law" and TOTALLY OPEN BORDERS !

And most importantly.... " Free Hot cocoa, cookies, 'Petting' Poodles, Safe Spaces, and TUMMY RUBS WHEN YOU'RE 'Verklempt" ! ahhhhhh
(THIS is your "Due Consideration" ...."Is he a GOOD and TRUE "BELIEVER" in Saul ????) Then... "Again, I DON'T deem personal
weakness (s) some punishable, moral failure of a lesser being!" is almost Unintelligible.

If, it's what I THINK you mean: You aren't "personally" RESPONSIBLE for your "weaknesses"...OR...your "moral Failures' !
SWEET ! ( You've got "MOMMY" on speed-dial).... and she "talks you-down" ...whenever your LACK of Morals and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES land you in the ********* ! bet that EATS UP your Cell minutes & Keeps Mommy from her Jewish BINGO days!)

So "Needful " !

SO your 'back up' is a "Transcendentalist" ....Ralph Waldo ... Who was Based on A "literary" Movement from the early 19th century?
whose existence is to "PROTEST against the General State Of " Intellectualism & Spirituality " of that era ? ( REALLY ! ?)
His quote, that you've reproduced, is a direct reference to YOUR attempt at Intellectualism. How drole: you're quoting an author who's FOCUS in Life was to distain your very ATTEMPT at " being" ! ( again: the DANGERS of a" Little Knowledge"...)

Well Done "Bonzo, It's your- BEDTIME" ! Ga'Night ! (get yer 'blanky'...)
DON'T FORET ta Say good nite to Mommy !

Lyzko
17 Mar 2017  #437

You interpret the Lord's message your way, and I'll interpret it HIS way, to paraphrase the late Polish-French harpsichordist Wanda Landówska, when chiding a student's "false" interpretation of Bach's preludes:-)

The US must have been friggin' desperate to having elected filth like The Donald to the (once sacred) office of the Presidency.

Which is worse? Clinton One having had sex in the Oval Office or this guy pretending to respect the Constitution, which he probably hasn't even read) while sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom.

Hope someone fumigates the place once he leaves, or will the odor linger?
LOL

johnny reb
18 Mar 2017  #438

I'll interpret it HIS way

Really, I have ask you three times now to show me the scripture that you interpret that animals go to heaven and you haven't been able to yet.

The rest of your post is totally off - topic AGAIN to redirect with one of your pointless merry - go - rounds AGAIN.
Now for the love of Mary would you please stay on topic !

Lyzko
18 Mar 2017  #439

If a church announces to her congregants that they also bless animals, an intelligent person can only draw the same conclusions I have:-)

There are lies, damned lies, twisting of words, and then there are the Holy Scriptures! If any text has been flagrantly misused in order to justify acts of barbarity and disgust, it's they!

Remember, the Crusades were not killing in G_d's name, but in man's.

johnny reb
18 Mar 2017  #440

twisting of words

You mean just like you did/do ?

they also bless animals

What does that have to do with your self proclaimed Holy Scripture (that you can't seem to come up with) about animals going to heaven ?

Would that be a lie, damn lie or just twisting your own words again.

and then there are the Holy Scriptures

Ah yes, back to the Holy Scripture that you have failed to produce that says animals go to heaven.

an intelligent person can only draw the same conclusions I have

That is an oxymoron if there ever was one. LOL
Lyzko, you are no longer worth my time as you are far from being intelligent on the subject of Christian Holy Scripture.
Go B.S. someone that doesn't know any better.

delphiandomine
18 Mar 2017  #441

Johnny, you're doing a fine job of showing us how your alleged Catholic upbringing is in fact a lie.

Catholics don't talk about "scripture" like that, as Catholic doctrine is often at odds with what is literally written there. Sola scriptura is very much a Protestant invention, not Catholic.

Here's a clue: apostolic tradition is considered to be equally acceptable in Catholicism. Therefore, the current teachings of the Church are considered to be equally valid, which means that all animals will go to heaven.

w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html

Eternal life will be a shared experience of awe, in which each creature, resplendently transfigured, will take its rightful placeand have something to give those poor men and women who will have been liberated once and for all

Try reading it, you might learn something for once.

Lyzko
18 Mar 2017  #442

Amen, Delph!

Johnny, Pax homini huobiscum (..or something like that).
:-)

delphiandomine
18 Mar 2017  #443

Amen, Delph!

:)

No doubt Johnny will be along soon to tell us why the words of Pope Francis should be disregarded.

johnny reb
18 Mar 2017  #444

Simple enough to do for a couple of Simpleton's like you two.
Listen up close now so I don't have to repeat it AGAIN for the sixth time.
Biblical Scripture are the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

Catholics don't talk about "scripture" like that,

Hey, there is your first clue that you missed.
Pope Francis (a mortal man) did not write any Holy Christian Scripture.

Therefore, the current teachings of the Church are considered to be equally valid,

Considered by the Catholic Faith you mean.
Talk about the blind leading the blind...............oh ja ja . :-/
I rest my case.

delphiandomine
18 Mar 2017  #445

Anyone notice how Johnny's "Catholic" act is rapidly disintegrating? ;)

johnny reb
19 Mar 2017  #446

Anyone notice how delph (who admits to not having any kind of religious faith at all yet pretends to be a practicing Catholic) wants to bait johnny into say that:

the words of Pope Francis should be disregarded.

Your childishness is so transparent.
Go stalk someone else Dirtball unless you really have something to contribute besides insults and belittlements to MY thread.
But before we do however, Adrian wants your new address so he can come visit you there in Poland.
(Has anyone noticed how delph's "Provoking" act rapidly disintegrates when ask to meet face to face ?) ;-)
Now for the love of Mary could we get back on topic AGAIN.

delphiandomine
19 Mar 2017  #447

I don't need to "bait" you, it's blindingly obvious that you haven't got the faintest idea about Catholic doctrine.

mafketis
19 Mar 2017  #448

Biblical Scripture are the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

Does that include the Old Testament? Biblical literalism is a protestant idea and it's more extreme forms is very anti-human nature and does not lead to good life restuls.

Literalism is a scourge on religion.

delphiandomine
19 Mar 2017  #449

Biblical literalism is a protestant idea and it's more extreme forms is very anti-human nature and does not lead to good life restuls.

Yes, it's very obvious that Johnny has no real idea about Catholicism (and wasn't brought up as one) if he thinks that it should be taken literally and without question. The fact that he's preaching a doctrine which is completely contrary to Catholic ideals (and has been that way for centuries!) says it all.

johnny reb
19 Mar 2017  #450

I don't need to "bait" you, it's blindingly obvious that you haven't got the faintest idea about Catholic doctrine.

YOU are the one that is "trying" to preach Catholic doctrine Dirtball, not me.
Perhaps you could post the chapter and verse of scripture from the Catholic Bible that says animals go to heaven for us.
(Seems Lyzko could not back up his same claim on this and you can't either)
Even mortal man does not go to heaven, his/her soul does and animals do not have souls.
But how would a Heathen, such as yourself, pretending to be a Catholic know that.

you haven't got the faintest idea about Catholic doctrine.

No screwball, it is you who knows just enough to stick your foot in your mouth.

And yes, yes you are stalking because this was a debate between Lyzko and I and you decided to jump in to simply provoke.
You should be suspended AGAIN for such a violation.

Does that include the Old Testament?

Do you remember the part where Moses was given the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament ?
Do you take the Ten Commandments literally ?

it's more extreme forms is very anti-human nature and does not lead to good life restuls.

I would have to say it is those who are Heathens and do not follow the Ten Commandments are the ones lives who do not lead to good life results.

Argue as you may.
Sorry guys, I have NOTHING to defend here.
I have my Faith and you guys have none.
My Faith teaches that non believers burn in hell for eternity as do most Faiths including the Catholic Doctrine.
Since you refuse to accept any Faith is taking a huge chance that you are right and my Faith is wrong is like refusing free fire insurance.

Just stupid !

You have chosen Satan for your master rather then Jesus Christ is your choice, not mine.
Enjoy your denial now while you can because eternity is forever.
And all the Christians on the P.F. said, Amen !
(copy right J.R. another free Sunday sermon to the blind)


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