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Rich Mazur
22 Aug 2018  #451

I resent when the press lies to stir up emotions and hatred toward minorities. For example, why would express.co.uk report Belgium knife attack: 'One dead and several wounded' in restaurant stabbing horror? We will not be fooled by that fake news piece as we know that knives that can kill are illegal in Belgium and that Muslims are peace-loving community. It is very likely that the woman was so suicidal that she stabbed herself three times to make sure.

Rich Mazur
23 Aug 2018  #452

Oh, the joy of living in Europe! From bbc.co.uk: Patient waited 62 hours for ambulance
If you are ready to dismiss this case as extreme, perhaps this comment from a reader will sound familiar: Father in law waiting 2 years for cataracts. Too blind to drive his mobility scooter.

It just so happens that my wife had cataracts removed in August. Her "wait' was a week. Medicare pickup all 100%.
USA: I love you. Europe: go jump into the lake.

TheOther
23 Aug 2018  #453

Medicare pickup all 100%.

Wait for Paul Ryan. He's already salivating to cut back on "entitlements" because he remembered that the GOP is so "fiscally responsible" (har har har).

Europe: go jump into the lake.

Well, for our retirees it's gonna be more like "go jump in your coffin."

Miloslaw
23 Aug 2018  #454

Oh, the joy of living in Europe! From bbc

Europe is not all the same......
We in The UK pay a small,unoticeable amount in our taxes towards healthcare and it is free at point of delivery.
Those of us that can afford it take out private medical cover and the service is much better and not as expensive as in The States.

We don't envy your system,in fact we think you are suckers for paying so much.

cms neuf
24 Aug 2018  #455

Unfortunate fact but most if the countries you can socialist (actually nothing of the sort) have both higher life expectancy than the US and better health levels when people are still alive.

data.oecd.org/healthstat/life-expectancy-at-birth.htm

Of course in the case of Italy, Spain, Greece etc then diet and sunshine have a lot to do with it but in most of the countries like Germany, Sweden, Britain etc then its a clear indication that the US model of privatized medicine is less successful.

Crow
24 Aug 2018  #456

I agree that we who pays a lot of for health care are suckers. I see how foreigners gets absolutely free health care when injured in Serbia and need any urgent medical care. But if they don`t pay for urgent help, we know who pays that- Serbian tax payers. On the other side, when our citizens abroad need medical urgent help, they must pay immediately or are absolutely free to die. No money, no help. See, in Serbia is different. But I`m not proud with it- we here are suckers. Who knows what else we tax payers actually pay.

Rich Mazur
24 Aug 2018  #457

most if the countries ...have both higher life expectancy than the US

...because Americans are fat and on drugs. Both are voluntary and suicidal. Nothing to do with medical care.
The only statistic that would be of any interest to me is life expectancy of heterosexual whites who do not smoke, drink, snort, inject, keep their weight where it should be, and work out regularly.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Aug 2018  #458

...because Americans are fat and on drugs. Both are voluntary and suicidal. Nothing to do with medical care.

Are you so sure?

At least the opiate crisis seems to point back to bad or non-existent medical care. I read about working men toiling especially in the mid west which were used to medicate themselves with such cheap and easily accessible opiates as fentanyl because they had neither the time to let themselves go well again fearing the loss of their job nor the money to pay a doctor. That's how the opiate crisis startet...

drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/opioids/opioid-overdose-crisis

TheOther
24 Aug 2018  #459

That's how the opiate crisis startet.

The system works different in America, BB. Pharmaceuticals bombard consumers with advertisements for drugs, and the people run to their doctors demanding these particular medications. Or the corporations buy themselves some MDs to promote their drugs. Once the people are addicted to pain killers, it's too late. That's the opiate crisis. Big pharma and doctors making a quick buck at the expense of patients. The more they are hooked, the better.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Aug 2018  #460

What a mess!

Rich Mazur
24 Aug 2018  #461

Big pharma and doctors making a quick buck at the expense of patients.

Spot on post. The US consumption of Ritalin is 80% of the total world production. We are 5% of the global population. Do the math.
There are about 10,000 cases of 2-year-old kids on Ritalin because they were acting .... like 2-year-old kids. I am not making it up.
Recently, I just had a minor surgery. Sure enough I got a prescription for pain pills. I bought them and wouldn't touch this crap if they paid me. Now the pain is gone and the bottle is still as I got it.

Your point about ads for drugs is good but not complete. The US is one of only two countries where they allow to run ads for prescription drugs. Like I see myself saying, hey doc, you want me to take drug X but I want drug Y because I saw that ad with a hot chick with big tits. F****** insanity.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Aug 2018  #462

It's really insane!

Rich Mazur
24 Aug 2018  #463

Aren't you glad you are German?
We all have our own insanities. To my great credit, I am always ready admit ours.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Aug 2018  #464

Aren't you glad you are German?

In that regard for sure. I pay a little obolus monthly and for that I don't have to worry about my treatment and medication should I need such. It's a sound, serious, proven system and I don't understand why it is such a problem in the US.

A honest question, is Trump doing anything against that opiate crisis?

Miloslaw
24 Aug 2018  #465

I have no desire desire to holiday in The USA and you guys have just underlined for me why.
I knew America had problems but didn't realize they were this bad....
We have our problems in Europe too but USA sounds terrible to me.

Rich Mazur
24 Aug 2018  #466

I don't understand why it is such a problem in the US.

The American system is very stiff and resistant to revisions. Like the immigration laws nobody wants to touch out of fear. I seems the US is a victim of the British culture and method of governing. It takes an awful lot to change things here even after the damage is done. To the great credit of the European way of thinking - that excludes the UK - France and Germany reform and reconstruct as needed and as close from the base as possible. Metric system comes too mind. The US and the UK are a patchwork.

Israelis are the best example of thinking BEFORE the damage is done, as they just can't afford to be wrong even once. That is why I have the utmost respect for the Israelis, and none for the American Jews - naive, democrat-voting pacifists, secure in their protected 'no go' zones.

Just one example. The subject of securing the cockpit doors was discussed years before 9/11. No way. It costs too much, the airline lobby is against it. Israelis did it some 20 years earlier. And the profiling. To the average American, it's a dirty word. To the Israelis, it's a tool of survival. That's the difference.

TheWizard
24 Aug 2018  #467

Well for whatever reason the usa is also not our holiday destination, it doesnt get onto the list. When i asked family we mention usa and everyone just laughs. I dont even know why.

Rich Mazur
24 Aug 2018  #468

When I asked my family if they would like to visit London, everyone just burst out sobbing. And, then, they sent me this from mirror.co.uk:

mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/100th-london-murder-investigation-launched-12984617
100th London murder investigation launched as capital set for record number of killings after pensioner found dead

I know it's a bunch of lies since guns are banned in the UK. And racist since we all know that blacks are just as peaceful as whites.

So, like it or not, we are going.

TheWizard
25 Aug 2018  #469

Yep the tori party just keeps on destroying the uk. Should be third world by the time they are finished.

Rich Mazur
25 Aug 2018  #470

Not exactly on the thread subject, but my view of Australia is that it is the nearest to the US in terms of history and the spirit. It was meant as a good thing.

Has anyone actually made it to the center of Australia? Does anyone live there with water, electricity, mail, and Fedex?

TheWizard
25 Aug 2018  #471

Yes Rm there is a city alice springs, look it up on google maps. A few cattle stations and such. But apart from that nothing but desolation, it's a place you can only survive in with awesome bush craft skills such as those possessed by the aboriginals or modern supplies. Its worth visiting there, nothing else like it.

Rich Mazur
25 Aug 2018  #472

alice springs

Thanks. I like travelling with google maps. Almost like being there. BTW, somebody drained the water from the Todd River. Not a drop.

I can almost see myself cruising in my convertible until I would be killed by swerving to the right side.

Just like in Arizona or Death Valley. My favorite landscape. Have you ever been to Death Valley and Dante's View lookout?

TheOther
25 Aug 2018  #473

somebody drained the water from the Todd River

It's dry most of the time. Don't go there at night. Lots of drunk Abos.

But apart from that nothing but desolation

Don't forget Yulara.

johnny reb
27 Aug 2018  #474

A rare sexually transmitted disease that causes flesh eating ulcers on the infected person's genitalia has been in reported in England, according to the Lancashire Post.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, donovanosis is spread through sexual intercourse with an infected partner, or by coming into contact with a patient's infected ulcer.

The CDC says the painless disease causes progressive ulcerative lesions on the genitals areas prone to heavy bleeding.
The STD is rarely reported in the United States but is endemic in some tropical and developing areas, including India, Papua New Guinea, the Caribbean, central Australia, and southern Africa.

I'm sure there's no connection ! Right !
Even if there is, as the Italian paper La Stampa said last year, we should be grateful that migrants are bringing in a rich tapestry of "millions of microbes, fungi, bacteria" that "our world has lost" to enrich our "biodiversity !"

Oh gee, we should feel so grateful for these migrants are spreading such a rich tapestry to "enrich" our cultures.

TheWizard
27 Aug 2018  #475

Looking forward to not catching it!

Bratwurst Boy
27 Aug 2018  #476

Has someone recognized the interesting lack of late of attacks against Germany regarding the 2% or it's dependence on Russia????

It seems Trump stopped caring...or he got what he wanted...whatever that was...

dolnoslask
27 Aug 2018  #477

interesting lack of late of attacks against Germany

No but I noticed this tho

If you start complaining about people being murdered in the streets you are a far right nazi hate spreader

Angela Merkel condemns far-right groups 'spreading hatred in the streets' after hundreds gathered to protest over local man who was 'stabbed to death by migrants'

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6102545/German-govt-condemns-far-right-demo-eastern-city-fatal-dispute.html

then there is this problem

Migrant in Germany with 542 criminal investigations against him cannot be deported because European authorities can't figure out where he is from.

Great this European news thread lots to talk about

I think Merkel would have sent the above guy to Poland, no wonder she was so keen for us to take her newly adopted criminals

Bratwurst Boy
27 Aug 2018  #478

Migrant in Germany with 542 criminal investigations against him cannot be deported because European authorities can't figure out where he is from.

Agreed. That some of the things that poisoned the usually welcoming atmosphere in Germany.

Our laws are so strict that some of them don't make any sense anymore to the common people. Even IF they know where these criminals are from.

For example one "Sami. A"...he is a proven terrorist-sympathizer who talked openly about wanting to kill Germans. But the court judged he can't be kicked out to his native Morocco because it is possible that they may torture him. I mean PLEASE! For all I care they can him throw out of a helicopter there, but nooo...now the taxpayer will have to afford him a first class flight back to nice, comfy Germany...

No matter what such a lowlife did or plans to do due our actual laws we can't get rid of them...and these guys destroy it for all the honest, grateful, law abiding newcomer!

And what does the gov and many of the media? Blaming the rising AfD which is only rising and gaining votes because of this mess! It's maddening....

Miloslaw
27 Aug 2018  #479

Great Post Bratwurst Boy.
Couldn't agree more.

dolnoslask
27 Aug 2018  #480

Blaming the rising AfD which is only rising and gaining votes because of this mess! It's maddening....

Yeah its fuelling the hateful right,

Dunno what to say Bratwurst its true the German people are welcoming , I certainly have found that in all of my dealings, what to do this is crazy , as you say it harms the genuine people who need help, its also hurting the German people who do not know where to turn to find a solution to this mess.

Dude first help yourselves sort out proper mechanisms, then by all means carry on as good German folk and help others.

Good luck mate...........

Sorry but undocumented and un vetted migrants should not be allowed into Europe full stop.


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