European News Thread

Agreed Dolno,but although The UK does have a problem,I think the problem is worst in France,then perhaps Italy,Germany and Sweden....even NL has a huge problem with muslims.....

Meanwhile in Poland

Reality TV show 'Go Back to Where You Came From' where participants follow the refugee trail in to Europe in reverse comes under fire in Poland for exploiting migrant suffering

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6102259/Reality-TV-people-follow-refugee-trail-Europe-reverse-comes-underfire-Poland.html

How about the suffering of the native European people who are having to deal with the rapists, murderers, paedophile migrants that have landed, oh forgot to mention the terrorists.

Are these Poles? Or real refugees?

Ha ha i did not know about this show. Is this for real?

Germany reels as far-right 'mobs' go on rampage
Germany was reeling Tuesday as xenophobia reared its head with far-right protests degenerating into attacks against foreign-looking people, adding fuel to an already explosive debate over migrants.

After Sunday's fatal stabbing of a German man, 35, allegedly by a Syrian and an Iraqi, thousands of protesters descended on the streets of Chemnitz for two straight days, some bearing insignia of the far-right AfD and neo-Nazi NPD parties.

After a brawl at a street festival, eight Indian men suddenly found themselves being attacked by dozens of angry German youths shouting "Foreigners out" and "foreigners go back where you belong."

Looks like the Germans are fed up with Merkel's "Cultural Enrichment" program.
Will the "Progressive Socialist" ever catch on that their agenda doesn't work.

If the majority were fed up with her, they would not have given here another term as chancellor.

This is simply yet another sign of virulent xenophobia in East Germany, a legacy of the GDR. There have been attacks on refugee shelters since the early 1990s, and the terrorist group NSU was also from there. However this scum is a dying breed, the younger generation is much less likely to think like them.

That was another oxymoron I will add to my collection: younger generation + think. Sure.
Younger generation is a bunch of zombies clutching their smartphones 24/7, including sleep. When awake, these young phone zombies are on Facebook, a leftist subversive organization turning young zombies into leftist young zombies, tripping and falling on the way to the nearest Starbucks.

That's because the younger generation (Millenials) have been dumbed down (brainwashed) by the Progressive thinking Liberals.
(The Saul Alinski and George Soros Commies)

Could be if the number of immigrants stays or get's even lower. But every year two middle sized towns come in...and barely any leaves.

In Chemnitz it was the violent hool mob running through the streets, but it was the common townsfolk which applauded them on the side lines.

The pressure in this kettle Germany is growing, not going down...and surely not dying out!

The moment Merkel is out of the game the CDU will go the same way the FDP already did and the SPD is just walking...down. Because of this the current gov has about 3 years to rectify it's errors and adapt the laws to the new age.

No they are poles , the show has not aired yet, maybe it won't, but if it does I will send u a link if possible, bad taste I know but might make interesting viewing.

The number of migrants or refugees is not the real problem. This evident by how the areas who have experience with migration tend to be less xenophobic than others. This is simply down to prejudices, especially in East Germany where few people have had the opportunity to learn themselves how migration looks like. My brother goes to an university in Saxony, in an area where the AfD polls highest, with barely any foreigners (except those who go the university) around. I had the opportunity to talk with some AfD voters, and it was easy to see that they had no idea what they were talking about. Nevermind that they had no idea about refugees, they were also completely oblivious about the contradictions in their position. Because obviously they did not want to lose the wealthy foreigners who study there, yet they are surprised why fewer of those arrive since 2015. If you have enough money, you do not want to study in an area with a deeply xenophobic population.

Until it becomes a problem. (1) What is the maximum number of migrants or refugees would you personally be willing to accept? (2) Would you accept all? (3) If not all, why not?

I'm an Ossi and I never thought I would say this, but I don't want my kids in a kita where they are the "Ausländer", the only one who speaks german.


But we have TV! :)

You don't have to be prejudiced when you don't want the Paris Banlieus in Dresden or the events of Silvester 2015 at the Naumburg Dom!

It's the same in Poland and Hungary...you can say that the East Germans are historically much closer to them than their western brethren though because of the shared past of communist opression and the total miss of the western 68er "revolution"...


What happens now in Germany happens everywhere in the western world. The split of once more or less homogeneous nations into multi-cultural hipster towns and growing mega cities with ultra liberal globalist citizens and all the rest, which is deepy rooted, not as liberal and not globalist or "hip".

This split is so bitter because the govs are usually leaning into one or the other direction meaning one side will suffer for sure. A broad consensus aka stability is harder and harder to find by the year.

The refugees are not the problem agreed, but they have become the symbol of this war.
Right now the current traditional policy maker are stumbling to find an answer to this split...if they have acknowledged that development at all.

But one thing won't happen for sure, that the growing youth will somehow make sure that this war will be won by demography. Especially not as the liberal youth will pack their bags and wander off to the next big liberal town and the others stay. The split will only deepen and this war can destroy everything the liberals take for granted, if they don't start to take that seriously.

To be honest, the 68er protest had hardly any impact on Western Germany. Most of the results (good and bad) are misatributed to them. But be it as it may, East Germany is for the reasons you mentioned still not a fully mature democratic society, as evidenced by the election results where the far left and far right gets more votes than anywhere else.


I doubt that this is much of an issue in Germany with its' proportional election system. Towns who are hostile to migration will simply shrink and die out. Natural selection at work.

I doubt that....

The cities can't live without the land. They need the land and it's people. You can't eat your start-up and even the milk for the hipsters latte has to come from somewhere.

Not to mention that the adventurous youth will move their legs to smell the big wide world, but they grow older and want to have families of their own, they often find themselves no longer that liberal but rather conservative and prefer a different place for their little ones to grow up.

The world won't end up so quickly as one big mega city...

Can you name one that did?

I'm with Bratwurst Boy.... I think he understands what is happening in his region....the rest of you are politicaly motivated.

Towns will shrink without immigration.....nope they will thrive and their land value will increase and nobody wants to live next to middle eastern population, including those in the middle east.

Thanks for your voice of reason.
Towns will shrink without immigration...a globalist line to scare this how they preserve their culture and their heritage. But white towns always benefit form the swarms of foreign scum, invited or not. Especially the white women of the rape-able age from 5 to 95.

We just bought a new house and moved in july. No way in hell would i buy one anywhere near those people.

Sorry for screwing up my post #500 above.

Doesn't matter RM, i know what you are saying.

@Rich Mazur


Here is a map with the population dynamic in Germany. Red cities are growing, blue cities are shrinking. As anyone can see, East German cities are all blue, with the exception of cities like Leipzig, Berlin, that have embraced migration. Chemnitz is also among those who have lost the largest percentage of their population since reunification.

twitter.com/bbsr_bund/status/903176261069090817


Not if they are losing more and more people. Once the city is below a certain level of young people, schools will close, doctors and other shops will move away and so on. It is a vicious cycle.

Thanks.
I am not surprised. The ex-Eastern German cities are not very attractive for many reasons. I get it. However, the last thing I would do is bring a horde of foreigners to fill the void. No way. The money you would spend on them could be used to rebuild and to give the real Germans an incentive to move. Anything but foreigners.

Personally, I have no special reason to feel warm about Germany as matter of history, but today I wish the new Germany the very best - uncontaminated and prosperous.

Erm...."embraced migration"?

I live in Berlin, nobody here is "embracing" it, they just keep coming....what do you mean with "embracing migration"?

Did you ever hear about the "Wohnungsnot" here in Berlin? Do you really think any Berliner is "embracing" the incoming competition? Do you really think any Berliner is happy about the rising numbers of homeless crowding former lively places?

What are you talking about???

You know that seveal towns and cities have already declared "Zuzugsstop", don't you...do you think they will now wither and die because they admitted to be overwhelmed with newcomers?


Once the digital revolution is rolling Germany doesn't need nor will want so many people anymore, the age old work = earn your bread cycle will be broken...work as we now it will be a thing of the past...a shrining population means also more space, less fight for the few still available jobs the same with housing, more nature, better life quality...it doesn't mean I need to fill these now with foreigners.

New solutions are asked for not the same as before...or it will be a cruel awakening for some!

The refugees from the mid east area are the victims of poor management, rubbish diplomacy, religious fundamentalism, bad morals, outdated customs, corruption, warmongery and a really poor natural environment. They have ridiculous oil rich fat cats who took everything. Those fat cats sent their people to you, they helped anyway. The latest thing i predict is that the climate & environment will now bring more people ( the weather) away from the equator.

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And we, whites, like the fools that we are, will just add climate to the list of asylum scams.

EU has different migrants apart from war quotas to oz here. In the case of climate refugees the pacific islanders are being flooded. Much land has been lost already and its getting worse. I can see those guys trying to come to Australia. On the desert strip in africa you don't get swamped, the sand gets bigger. Less water.............add war and destruction and random pollution from damage and you have......useless moonscape.

You can add AIDS, cholera, and leprosy and I still don't want them. There is simple rule in life: when you are in a hole, quit f******.

Yeah a lot of people ' dont want them'. Don't start thinking i do RM. Lol. Just listing another reason for the movement of people. A very real one. If we look at known history this is been happening since day dot but humans had a big pause due to favourable environment. Looks like that pause may be coming to an end. People see pictures of trashed syrian cities and realize why they run away, i look at trashed syrian city and it's surroundings and don't see any resources to rebuild, i don't understand why one would rebuild there.