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Rich Mazur
31 Aug 2018  #511

Most people are expert pretenders. "Virtue signalling" is already in the English lexicon. I no longer pretend and have zero need to tell anyone what a nice guy I am because I am not. I feel like puking when I hear someone say that her heart is broken because some stranger died in an accident or of cancer. I don't care. My current problem is to pick my next car.

When the 2004 tsunami hit the shores in Asia, 250,000 were killed that morning. That same 250,000 were added to the global population before 9 am next morning and life was as normal as the next day, and the day after that. If my heart was supposed to be broken every time somebody died, what was supposed to happen to my organs after that tsunami? Explode? Burst into flames?

Miloslaw
1 Sep 2018  #512

You really don't need to tell us that you are not a nice guy.....we all worked that out already.....
You are just a pathetic,angry,racist and bigoted old man.....

Rich Mazur
1 Sep 2018  #513

...you forgot arrogant, xenophobic, anti-gay, and liberal-hating. Next time, please, make the list complete.

Your contribution to keeping me busy is greatly appreciated. Would like to know what cars are on my short list?

Miloslaw
1 Sep 2018  #514

I will do my best to get that list right next time..... but it's so long...... LOL!!!
Who gives a **** about your car list?
We Brits don't boast about our wealth.

Rich Mazur
2 Sep 2018  #515

Wealth? Buying a car requires wealth in the UK? In my specific case, I always buy them used because while I am financially more than OK, I ain't stupid to see a new car depreciate 33% in the first year on my dime. I let the other sucker do it for me.

But I am digressing. I offered to change the subject out of pity for you. You see, I feel that a poster must be desperate and out of things to say when he resorts to personal insults to say something, however moronic.

Rich Mazur
2 Sep 2018  #516

From dailymail.com: Thousands of far-right protesters march in Germany against Merkel's immigration policy just days after a man was stabbed to death 'by two migrants'

That bold type is mine to highlight the point that to the liberal morons in the UK, Germans who protest two murders cannot simply be German patriots who do not like seeing their countrymen killed. Oh, no, they can't even be right wingers. They must far-right. Or, better yet for future use, NAZI's. Yeah, to these idiots, if you are a patriot you are a far-right extremist.

Bratwurst Boy
2 Sep 2018  #517

They must far-right. Or, better yet for future use, NAZI's.

Sadly they are...you couldn't overlook the Hitler-Greetings...

Rich Mazur
2 Sep 2018  #518

The current migrant insanity will cause more and more people look kindly at the neo-NAZI's.

Miloslaw
2 Sep 2018  #519

"But I am digressing. I offered to change the subject out of pity for you. You see, I feel that a poster must be desperate and out of things to say when he resorts to personal insults to say something, however moronic"

You are not even making sense now.....truly idiotic....or maybe truly drunk....

Bratwurst Boy
3 Sep 2018  #520

The current migrant insanity will cause more and more people look kindly at the neo-NAZI's.

And I blame Merkel for that!

Usually, before Merkel, the common folks had the alternative to vote for the conservative/rightist CDU (or CSU if you are happy living in Bavaria) to have a voice for all their concerns regarding multi-kulti and immigration. But since Merkel destroyed the old CDU and made a kind of left leaning neo-SPD out of it (destroying the real SPD in the process too) the CDU is no conservative right alternative for millions of people anymore.

All the political bruhaha we suffer right now in Germany is a consequence of Merkels "march to the left".

So...the only one taking to the streets protesting Merkel's refugee policies are the AfD and Neo-Nazis...it's maddening and it will hurt our country like not other for years to come. Thank you Mrs. Merkel (not)!

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #521

Between Obongo and Merkel, I will take Putin any time.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Sep 2018  #522

...under Putin I would be afraid to speak my mind, as like here in such a forum.

You don't know how it is to live under a regime which watches his people and kills them if it deems necessary. It's an ugly atmosphere of fear and it deforms people from standing upright to being bowed on their knees (not only critics and opposition but about everybody).

Never again!

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #523

You don't know how it is to live under a regime which watches his people and kills them if it deems necessary.

I do know that STASI was exceptional in a bad way and I don't really know how life is in Russia today, so I am going speculate that with the 80% approval, Putin does not have to resort to draconian measures to stay in power.

I lived in communist Poland until 1966 and I didn't know anyone who would be snatched and made to disappear. The reason I left was only my paycheck that was just a joke and nothing else.

My perception, plus the books and columns by the pundits, is that the Western democracies are not viable, long-term. Autocratic systems like China and Russia are. For the average man or woman, democracy is as irrelevant as the distance to the moon for me as long as they are safe, and relatively well off. Today, they are free to leave and bask in democracy in the EU or US.

I am willing to bet that the Chinese and the Russians would be very upset to see the UK-style migrant invasion in their countries. Patriotism is still not a dirty word there. Today, it is hate speech in the West and those who are patriots openly are ultra-right extremists. Or neo-NAZI's.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Sep 2018  #524

For the average man or woman, democracy is as irrelevant as the distance to the moon for me as long as they are safe, and relatively well off.

And that's the holy grail nobody had managed to find till now.

Somehow autocratic systems don't manage to keep people satisfied and well off...not in the long term. There is not one example (actual or in history) which has achieved success like a capitalist/democratic society. With the help of a bowed media they can gloss over the failings for awhile, that's it.

And they can't guarantee safety either...they can maybe shoot criminals on sight but they will kill off their opponents too.

In the GDR people had a guaranteed job, they had their guaranteed bread and housing, education was free...criminality was nearly not existent and was handled deftly, foreign immigration was rare and if at all then only for work without any rights...and still, people yearned to kill that state, kick their rulers out and get their revenge on the STASI. Which made all that possible...there is a lesson somewhere...

PS: Even at the latest "election" in the GDR the party achieved far over 90% of all votes, even as the people on the streets were already rioting...it was a joke.

When I would live in a country where I know I'm being watched, where I know what "accidents" happen to people which criticize the leadership would I dare to cast my vote the "wrong" way? Would I go voting at all? Would I keep my mouth shut because all is so dandy here and I'm so happy with how my country is run and my beloved leader or because of fear and resignation? Not everyone is a hero...

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #525

From theguardian.com: Tawfiiq, who arrived from Somalia 15 years ago, agreed. "It's a good place, it's fine," he said outside the Islamic centre. "There are some bad people, like everywhere." Nevertheless, this suburb of about 16,000 residents, 90% of whom were born abroad or to parents born outside Sweden, and only half of whom are in work,

I will take keeping my mouth shut over being run out of my village by a bunch of useless Somalis, if these are the two choices. How much without the purpose is shooting mouths off is best seen in the US and the EU as prime examples. We can talk and b**** until we turn blue and the ruling elites are as unimpressed as I am with McCain.

The operational difference between the US today and the communist Poland way back is that censorship is done by the private liberal PC visionaries running Google and Facebook instead of the party apparatchiks. You step out of line in the US and you can kiss your job good-bye. In the EU, you end up unemployed and then in prison.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Sep 2018  #526

We can talk and b**** until we turn blue and the ruling elites are as unimpressed as I am with McCain.

...there is always the next election.

You've got Trump now, what more could you want? :)

The EU has the next election 2019 and the "elite" is already scared shitless. In Germany every poll and survey brings bad new news for the rulers...they need to listen asap!

The operational difference between the US today and the communist Poland way back is that censorship is done by the private liberal PC visionaries

Agreed. This kind of self censorship runs deep in the media...and it's annoying! But I don't fear it.

In the EU, you end up unemployed and then in prison.

Now that is just not true!

You've seen it...the neo-Nazis marching through Chemnitz. Some of them, if caught on film, will get a monetary fine for showing forbidden signs like the Hitler Greeting in public...but they won't end up out of job or in jail or being killed.

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #527

You've got Trump now, what more could you want? :)

Sudden death to his opponents. One just did. So many still out there.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Sep 2018  #528

What did old McCain ever did to you?

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #529

He put his dislike for Trump before his duty to the US and doing away with ACA when he had a chance late that night. A RINO faking to be a conservative just like his buddy #43.

I actually wrote to him. It was the shortest letter he ever received: "Please, die". And now he is gone. The awesome power of prayer.

johnny reb
3 Sep 2018  #530

What did old McCain ever did to you?

McCain was an elitist first and foremost.
He loved being glorified, rubbing elbows with world leaders and being in the spotlight.
He sold out his party when he cast the deciding vote JUST BECAUSE he hated Trump.
He fought his own party leader at ever turn in the road and that is not the reason his party elected him.
He put himself before he did his own party or country.
He should have retired from politics thirty years ago and bowed out with what little dignity he had left.
That's what McCain did to me.

Lyzko
3 Sep 2018  #531

McCain was the deciding vote on keeping Obamacare. How much of a loser could he have been?

Joker
3 Sep 2018  #532

He voted against his own party out of spite against Trump.

McCain sold out his constituents and should have retired many many years ago.

WE do need term limits for all of Congress!

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #533

What did old McCain ever did to you?

That post #531 right above, as nothing else, shows the difference between the conservatives - the adults - and the child-like liberals. We, as Johnny just did, can be specific in supporting our positions. We actually welcome questions such as the one you just asked. Children can't so they run away offended.

BTW, we may have different opinions on some subjects but I see you as a good guy here, not that you need a pat on the back from anyone. In fact, we have more in common than I have with some of the Polish ... I will stop here.

Tacitus
3 Sep 2018  #534

It is hilarious that conservatives consider themselves adult, who engage in debates, when the entire modus operandi of their president is to decry any arguments against him as "fake news" and who is constantly caught lying.

You can trace this trend to other countries as well. In the UK, experts were villified as part of project fear. All the Brexiteers have now are empty slogans to mask their helpnessless.

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #535

You don't have to bother Trump. He is busy fighting the swamp, 24/7. You can chat with or debate any conservative here on any subject. We, as opposed to the fact-devoid libs, like engaging the opposition. Our problem is that the libs can't survive one or, at the most, two simple questions and the fun is over. Kind of like bad sex.

johnny reb
3 Sep 2018  #536

Trump just requested that 400 more NATO British troops be sent to Afghanistan.
These kids are younger then the war is old.

Rich Mazur
3 Sep 2018  #537

Did he explain why 400? And why British, not the US?
I hope the Brits will tell him something to the effect, No f****** way. Send your own, if you are that stupid.

TheOther
3 Sep 2018  #538

It is hilarious that conservatives consider themselves adult, who engage in debates

They are not conservatives in the European sense, Tacitus. They are much more to the right; very close to the AfD.

We, as opposed to the fact-devoid libs, like engaging the opposition

You guys must be living the dream. At least once in their lifetime "conservatives" can pretend to be adult, logical and Christian - courtesy Trump. Then they wake up. LOL!

johnny reb
4 Sep 2018  #539

It is hilarious that conservatives consider themselves adult, who engage in debates

Even more hilarious Tacitus, The Liberal Trump Haters are the same ignorant people who elected obama.

Rich Mazur
4 Sep 2018  #540

At least once in their lifetime "conservatives" can pretend to be adult, logical and Christian - courtesy Trump.

Why do you guys always run for cover by bashing some imaginary Trump conservatives or Trump himself who can't argue back. Say what you don't like specifically about conservatives HERE and let's see how it goes. It's a heart-felt invitation, not baiting.


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