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TheOther
4 Sep 2018  #541

Why do you guys always run for cover by bashing some imaginary Trump conservatives

SIGH !

You should know by now that I never run for cover when the far-right is involved. Read the thread I linked below. Everything you need to know why 60% of the country hates your guts is in there. I don't have anything to add to that.

https://polanda.com/off-topic/support-president-trump-fight-media-freedom-usa-83065/

Rich Mazur
4 Sep 2018  #542

Everything you need to know why 60% of the country hates your guts is in there. I don't have anything to add to that.

You are missing my point which is: if you want to debate conservatives, then debate conservatives on specific issues here and now instead of ripping into unnamed persons out there or Trump with meaningless adjectives.

BTW, there is no such thing as far-right. As opposed to near-right or far-left? Lately, it's a tactical insult thrown at the patriots who hate being victimized by migrants.

I will accept that it exists only if (1) it is defined AND (2) there is also "far-left". If we had only one hand there would not be left hand vs right hand.

johnny reb
4 Sep 2018  #543

Say what you don't like specifically about conservatives

That would be a cold day in hell Rich.
In general the Libs are against everything conservatives stand for.
Specifically however they can't debate the facts.

Rich Mazur
4 Sep 2018  #544

In general the Libs are against everything conservatives stand for.

I don't mind that. All I am asking for - actually begging - is just say it what it is they, the libs, are for or against and defend it. Instead, we get that his hair is orange and that he is a liar. That's it. Back to the 2nd grade.

Almost forgot about how the world hates "America" now that Trump is in. Which, of course, is the single best proof that he is an American patriot and doing exactly what the ball-less Obongo did not.

TheOther
5 Sep 2018  #545

there is no such thing as far-right

Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, far-right, nationalists, "patriots", Charlotteville style Trump followers - who cares? Same shi*t, different as*shole. Just like I didn't debate white supremacy with you, I will also not discuss the definition of what I consider the scum of the political landscape. That's a deflection on your part anyway.

if you want to debate conservatives

Debating self-proclaimed conservatives of the Trump variety is absolutely useless. If you present your own point of view, they call it "Fake News" even if you deliver real facts and numbers. If you question their arguments on the other hand, they will tell you that these are "alternative facts", scream MAGA and point to FOX News. I'm really done with that nonsense. There's too much of it on PF already.

johnny reb
5 Sep 2018  #546

All I am asking for - actually begging - is just say it what it is they, the libs, are for or against and defend it.

It will never happen Rich because it is impossible for a Liberal to debate the facts.
How many times have you seen that first hand right here on the PF.
They don't know what they are for but they know they are against Trump no matter what.

Rich Mazur
5 Sep 2018  #547

Debating self-proclaimed conservatives of the Trump variety is absolutely useless.

I was a conservative before Trump and I knew how to eat liberals for breakfast then as well as I do now. All I need is two questions after a lib states what he is for or against, and it's over. Like check, mate. That is the liberals' staying power and they know it.

You are doing a classical duck and deflect by bringing in Trump and Fox as disqualifiers. I can handle any liberal without mentioning Trump, Obongo, Fox or CNN.

Just like I didn't debate white supremacy with you,

You will not debate "white supremacy" because you know you would lose. To begin with, you don't even know what white supremacy is. All the libs know is that it must be evil.

FYI, every debate must start with defining what is on the table. Liberals hate even that. Like "racism". To a typical liberal moron, "racist' is meant to end a debate by disqualifying the opponent. That is why, as you just admitted, the last thing these morons want to do is to define "racism" first. You follow the same pattern.

Atch
5 Sep 2018  #548

Nothing but Trump on the so-called European news thread.

TheWizard
5 Sep 2018  #549

Because there is no europeans.

johnny reb
5 Sep 2018  #550

Nothing but Trump on the so-called European news thread.

The Mods do the best they can Atch so get off their ass.
Why don't you change it to something about Ireland when you were a little girl ?
Why are there Polish/Americans, Irish/American, Afro/Americans, Italian/Americans BUT there are no British/Americans ?

Miloslaw
5 Sep 2018  #551

Because very few Brits are interested in moving to The USA.
I have three friends from my youth.
One emigrated to Canada,works in Toronto and loves it.
Two moved to the States,one to LA.....it drove him nuts and he now lives in Australia.
The other lived in the Chicago area for many years and now lives in Dallas.
He made good,and is well known.
But Brits will choose other destinations ahead of The States most of the time.
With good reason.

Rich Mazur
5 Sep 2018  #552

And we greatly appreciate it.
We need Brits with their fake tolerance and pacifist mentality as Texas needs California liberals or Oklahoma another twister.

TheOther
5 Sep 2018  #553

You will not debate "white supremacy" because you know you would lose.

No, I won't debate white supremacy because it's some leftover crap from the 1930s. Nobody but a bunch of losers believe in that shi*t.

All I need is two questions after a lib states what he is for or against, and it's over. Like check, mate.

Playing the tough guy again? Sorry, I don't buy it. Why don't you throw away your red hat and order Woodward's book instead? :)

Rich Mazur
5 Sep 2018  #554

No, I won't debate white supremacy because it's some leftover crap from the 1930s. Nobody but a bunch of losers believe in that shi*t.

OK. Name the race that accomplished more than the whites.

Miloslaw
6 Sep 2018  #555

@Rich Mazur "OK. Name the race that accomplished more than the whites?"

The Chinese.

Rich Mazur
6 Sep 2018  #556

As can be so clearly seen by the number of patents, Nobel Prize winners, standard of living, music, literature, trips to the moon, civil rights, democratic systems, cars, movies, white students flocking to the Chinese universities to study engineering, and...

Anything else I overlooked as a proof of Chinese superiority?

Oh, yeah, I almost forgot those world-class Chinese hospitals every sick third-world chief chooses over the American medical centers.

Miloslaw
6 Sep 2018  #557

Chinese have a higher intelligence than Anglo Saxons,they hold $1.2 trillion of US debt,they export more than The USA,their future is brighter than that of The USA and they have invented and made tons of stuff that you use every day.

But you won't bother looking into that,because like all extremists you are so convinced that you are right.
Nazis like you are just as bad as Communists and Islamic extremists.

cms neuf
6 Sep 2018  #558

How about the Japanese ?

I think they would be happy to compare their health, wealth, safety and ingenuity to the US (not to mention failing white nations like Russia)

Miloslaw
6 Sep 2018  #559

How about the Japanese ?

Yeah,I'd go with them too!

johnny reb
6 Sep 2018  #560

How about the Japanese ?

Hey I hear that housing prices are some of the best in the world in Fukushima Japan.
TOMIOKA, Fukushima - Fishermen and local residents on Aug. 30 vehemently opposed the government's plan to discharge radioactive water from the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant into the sea, saying the measure will damage a number of industries.

During a public hearing on the measure, they also blasted the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry and the plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., for "misleading" the public by failing to disclose that radioactive substances, such as strontium, remained in the water to be discharged into the sea.

Japan also is one of unhinged N. Korea's primary targets with nuclear weapons.
I love the citizens of Japan however as they are some of the most well mannered, well organized and cleanest people on the planet.

cms neuf
6 Sep 2018  #561

I am sure there are places in the US where house prices are compromised by energy policy. Flint Michigan for example.

We are not comparing idealized societies but responding to his question about whether whites have superior achievements

johnny reb
6 Sep 2018  #562

I do apologize as I wait for anyone to dispute Rich's claim.

there are places in the US where house prices are compromised by energy policy. Flint Michigan for example.

Flint Michigan is in no way compromised by energy policies.
Flint was awarded a deserving welfare lotto do to a tainted water issue which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Rich Mazur
6 Sep 2018  #563

Chinese have a higher intelligence than Anglo Saxons... their future is brighter than that of The USA and they have invented and made tons of stuff

I am so sorry I forgot that Chinese invention - the Apple smartphones. And the toys with lead that make our kids sick.
In the meantime, do you suffer from a short memory syndrome or selective comprehension? In either case, just a reminder what I wrote long 3 hours ago:

...patents, Nobel Prize winners, standard of living, music, literature, trips to the moon, civil rights, democratic systems, cars, movies, universities. ...

Let's see what novel deflection is coming our way this time. Yeah, that bright future based on the US stupidity of shipping boatloads of cash to them each and every year.

Miloslaw
6 Sep 2018  #564

See,I knew you couldn't be bothered to shift your fat old lazy white bigoted arse into doing any research......what a total loser!

Rich Mazur
6 Sep 2018  #565

What research do I need? I just listed 11 areas where the whites are so far ahead that this subject is not even open for debate. Would you want me to repeat them for the third time? I don't want to do it because the mods may get upset, so why don't you read Post 564 if you missed it.

Miloslaw
6 Sep 2018  #566

I read it.....the usual old bollocks I'd expect from a narrow minded bigot like you.....nothing concrete,no facts,just opinion....
And frankly,your opinion is worthless,because it it is biased and not researched.....images of an old white,fat arsed bigot are coming into my mind....I must go to sleep to escape them.....I dream good stuff,no nightmares,no Rich Mazur.....

Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #567

I read it.....the usual old bollocks I'd expect from a narrow minded bigot like you.....nothing concrete,no facts,just opinion....

Like talking to a kid. Hey, boy, when you wrote that the Chinese accomplished more than the whites, was that based on research or did you pull it out of your ass just to say something, however stupid and without facts. You want to count how many Nobel Prize winners in science are Chinese and how many are white? Do you really want me to do it? It won't take long. But I would appreciate if you just folded to spare me the effort.

How about civil rights? Still the Chinese better than the whites? Are you stupid or just pretending?

Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #568

Quoting: ...Washington Post has compiled some maps and charts showing all Nobel Prize winners by region since 1901. Surprisingly, 83% of all Nobel laureates have come from Western countries...

Surprise, surprise...There is a nice color map for you to see here...
io9.gizmodo.com/this-map-of-nobel-prize-winners-shows-a-disturbing-leve-1446346273
Yeah, numbers are a bi***.

cms neuf
7 Sep 2018  #569

That will make an interesting chart in maybe 50 years when it reflects the fact that other nationalities will have more access to education.

For a taster of the multi racial future here are the last 20 winners of the US schools spelling bee competition.

qz.com/1294814/the-2018-spelling-bee-champion-winning-word-and-winners-from-past-20-years

Some long names there and not many Davids Johns or Erics

Out of interest how many Nobel prize winners has Russia had?

Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #570

Out of interest how many Nobel prize winners has Russia had?

I don't know. What I do know is that Russia can beat the rest of the world in chess without turning sweat.


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