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jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,231

So you're saying there's no Investigation into trump's links with Russia?

if they could no longer rely on the votes of dead people.

Don't be so silly; that sounds like something from an 'alternative news' source.

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,232

He certainly rules Trump.

I am sure you have the evidence to support this claim. For now, I will settle for a reasonable and probable explanation meeting the civil litigation lower standard of "more likely than not". I am assuming that you were able to comprehend this last sentence. Or would you like me to rephrase it?

Sadly, attempts to increase voter registration among the poorest citizens is frustrated by certain state officials

Name that state and the state officials. And, while at, how they "frustrate" voter registration.

the 'Ministry of Truth' has been in existence in the US for a long time.

That can come only from a guy who has no clue what the "Ministry of Truth" stands for and is lousy at English. So, here we go: typically, the phrase "the Ministry of Truth" refers to an oppressive government who punishes its citizens for saying unapproved things. Like now in Europe. Spying is collecting what the citizens are saying. The US like every other country, including Vatican, is spying but not charging criminally for wrong or hate speech the way Europe does.

Got it?

The USA with its wholesale electoral fraud

I read many idiotic posts in my life, but nothing even remotely as stupid is this one. In fact, it is so stupid, I will not ask for evidence.

To the mods: I called the post stupid, not the poster.

bolek_tusk
16 Jan 2019  #1,233

if they could no longer rely on the votes of dead people.

washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/7/los-angeles-county-agrees-purge-voter-rolls-judici/

judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/california-and-los-angeles-county-to-remove-1-5-million-inactive-voters-from-voter-rolls-settle-judicial-watch-federal-lawsuit/

It's looking like your la-la land will come crashing down by the end of this year, especially after Mueller's enquiry finalises its report....

Prepare for bad news....

politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

The Ministry of Truth brainwashes people into believing certain 'truths'. It also withholds much information from the public and engages in corrupt legal practices.

You only need to look at how the FISA warrants were issued to spy on Trump, or the way the Clinton email 'investigation' was conducted to see the US 'Ministry of Truth' at is best. The US MSM is the propaganda arm of the Ministry of Truth.

You would have to be brain dead not to se it.

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,234

Propaganda, lies, and power abuses have been around since the cavemen discovered fire.
There would be no need to invent the Orwellian term of "the Ministry of Truth". He did because that term means something else and connects with force and physical oppression by an oppressive, not lying or spying, government . Duh!

Check your brainwaves.

BTW, while I have your attention, what about that "electoral fraud".

bolek_tusk
16 Jan 2019  #1,235

Will this do?

americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/electoral_fraud_the_real_record.html

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,236

Thanks for that link. Now, I see the problem. The author used the term "electoral fraud" improperly as a substitute for a commonly used term "voter fraud". My guess is that he is foreign-born, since "electoral" connects 99% of the time with the Electoral College, not the act of voting.

Your "The USA with its wholesale electoral fraud" was also confusing since you meant the lying Democrats and their hired w***res, known as the MSM, not the US laws.

From that article, it is clear that you are one of the good guys here. My apology for the misunderstanding.

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,237

Prepare for bad news....

Trump slready has.

Not that this has much relevance to Europe (other than trump's Russian bosses).

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,238

That's really funny. A genius capitalizes "Russian", but not "trump". Freud at work, I guess.
Now, to the meat of your revelation. Were you or anyone you know or trust present when the Russians hired Trump?
That is not an essay type question, so a simple yes or no will do fine for now.

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,239

Freud at work, I guess.

Or even autocorrect on an iPhone. Russian is capitalised. Trump is more usually a word than a name. In Britain that word means fart.

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,240

Another debate classic.
I deliberately raised two points: trivial and serious, knowing very well that it will be the trivial one the respondent will latch on to and avoid the other. I even referred to it as "the meat of your revelation" to make sure that it is clear why I responded to his post.

It never, ever fails, because liberals are never capable of supporting their feeeeelings with facts or numbers. They just love labels and adjectives.

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,241

debate

If you want to 'debate', join a debating club.

bolek_tusk
16 Jan 2019  #1,242

The difference between voter fraud and electoral fraud is that one relates to irregular casting and the other relates to irregular counting.

Electoral fraud is systemic, ie voting machines being re-programmed or votes not being counted correctly.

Voter fraud is committed by voters who are not voting legally.

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,243

If you want to 'debate', join a debating club.

OK, another forum classic: always respond to what nobody gives a crap about and avoid the inconvenient stuff like a plague. Just as you did now.

bolek_tusk
16 Jan 2019  #1,244

Not that this has much relevance to Europe (other than trump's Russian bosses).

So when do expect that Trump will eventually do as he is told and support Nord Stream 2?

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,245

So when do expect that Trump will eventually do as he is told

Unlikely he'll be around long enough...

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,246

The difference between voter fraud and electoral fraud is that one relates to irregular casting and the other relates to irregular counting.

Sorry, but wrong again. Trust me that when an American hears "electoral" he immediately thinks "college". We just don't use it in any other context.

Even the author of the linked article used the term "election fraud" when he was referring to the actions of polling place workers. Almost the entirety of that article is about "voter fraud", and did not mention "electoral fraud" other than in the title.

As a test, type "electoral" in google and see what you get right underneath as suggestions to refine your search.

Unlikely he'll be around long enough...

There is something sick and very disturbing about your posts alleging that Trump is taking orders from Russia. I hope that it is only the posts.

A decent and honorable man would at least attempt, however lamely, to support such an allegation. The same decent and honorable man would give us some examples what Russia told or forced their employee, Trump, to do for Russia. Your posts remain silent. Just as, in all probability, you will now.

The Trump Derangement Syndrome is a popular affliction among deniers, so you don't have feel embarrassed if it is your malady.
In conclusion, it is my prediction that I will never get any supporting evidence and that you will continue saying s*** about Trump because you have nothing else to say. Like what specifically he delivered to Russia as president. We all know that Hillary did, but that's another show and a handy escape route I just offered to you.

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,247

sick and very disturbing

Very sick and disturbing is that a president of his country is under formal investigation by that country's government for links between his campaign and Russia, a country who discreetly though often effectively support some of the vilest politicians in countries that it's in their interest to destabilise.

support such an allegation

The investigation into the serious investigations is an official one; it's their role to uncover everything.

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,248

Nice try, again.
The investigation is still ongoing but YOU made those claims NOW. So, pu or su.

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,249

You'd need to ask the Special Prosecutor investigating trump to know who made the allegations...

So, pu or su.

Like everyone else, I just sit right back and watch all the chaos with a sense of shocked amusement and pity...

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,250

That's the su part. You overlooked "put up".

bolek_tusk
16 Jan 2019  #1,251

A decent and honorable man would at least attempt, however lamely, to support such an allegation.

He's just a wind up merchant. I'm surprised you bother engaging....

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,252

You overlooked "put up".

It's the folks who live there who have to 'put up' with the jerk-in-chief's antics. For now, anyway...

Rich Mazur
16 Jan 2019  #1,253

Be honest and admit that you just farted out that nasty comment about Trump being Russia's man without a thought or basis, and hoped that it would be it.

Instead of applause from the equally hateful co-liberals, somebody - that would be me - dared ask for evidence, and, in the process, exposed the emptiness of your claim.

You see, normal people, like the conservatives, love being challenged. I can post volumes about Obama being a Muslim, Marxist, racist pos that he is. In fact, the forum timer would run out on me before I would be done.

Not so with the TDS liberals. The moment they are asked for evidence to support their idiotic claims, they run to their safe spaces, clutch their teddy bears and clam up. I quit doing this when I was three, still peeing in my bed.

jon357
16 Jan 2019  #1,254

Trump being Russia's man without a thought or basis,

Cry me a river.

An official enquiry by a government Prosecutor against the 'president' of that country and his criminal associates is basis enough, even more than enough, for the jerk-in-chief to be running very scared indeed.


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