European News Thread

The extreme right and extreme left are equally dangerous.
But the extreme left are the ones gaining momentum now.
The extreme right are still pretty marginalized and shunned by most people.
Yet the extreme left are being increasingly accepted by mainstream people.
The left is the greater danger.

I want to see open borders for israel. The leftist jews in the us want open borders here. But when its applied to israel suddenly they're for borders and not too keen on taking in arabs and africans...

Clearly theyve never read Immanuel kant and his categorical imperative.

Please don't tell me you're another antisemitic......

So zionists can put their money where their mouth is. They insist on 'cultural enrichment' for europe and us, but never for israel.

Who do?

Feinstein, schumer, blumenthal, schiff, wasserman schultz, kagan, ginsburg, barbara spectre, etc (europe cannot ve the homogenous society it once was. They must become multicultural. It must take place.. And we jews will be at the center of that)

Heres her speech
youtu.be/85BKDj_1vVU

It was afterall a zionist jew jacob javitz who authored and pushed the immigration act of 1965 and exclaimed open the floodgates. Third world people with little to no merit and valuable skills came flooding in since.

Atleast soros is consistent. He wants open borders everywhere including israel and thats why the israeli government hates him.

I think you are misinterpreting or misunderstanding her comments.

That distinction is false. NAZIs and communists were both extreme left - a movement that craves totalitarianism and a government that is a powerful as possible.

True extreme right wants the government to be as small and as powerless as possible with just enough left to perform its only legitimate function: defending the country.

You are deliberately or mistakenly misinterpreting me
I said that the extreme left and extreme right were equally dangerous.
You said that distinction was false.
I made no distinction.
In fact I agree with you,there is barely a difference between fascism and communism.

That was not my intention. My problem is that every time I read about the "extreme right", there is no definition of what it is.

The extreme left is simple: ANTIFA, communists, black street thugs, screaming leftist student vandals at the American campuses, Maxine Walters and her clones, etc..
Now that I defined the extreme left, what is the extreme right? Because I hate the Latino invasion, I am against abortion, I like the 2nd, does that make me "extreme right"?

Just asking, not looking for a fight.

No.That doesn't make you extreme right.
Many of us with conservative,or right wing views are instantly labeled as extreme right wingers or even fascists by the left.
It's all bollocks of course....

I wish people would stop claiming that Nazism was a far left-wing movement. This is just such a ridiculous notion.

indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001

@Joker,

While there is to be sure historical precedent for this entire birthright issue which I neglected to mention for fear of overstating the obvious,
Trump nonetheless is attempting to marginalize even those BORN in the US, merely because of his bias against brown-skinned and Latin people, case closed!

Then define left and right in terms of objectives and methods for now and we will attach the labels after that.
Other than allowing private property, how was Nazism different from Communism in governing and civil rights?

Nazism = National SOCIALISM....


No its because women purposely come here pregnant often a month or two before birth and decides to give birth in us solely to give her kid us citizenship. Aka anchor babies. The us taxpayer pays for the hospital stay, medical bills, education, etc. Meanwhile the women eithet takes cash jobs bc she has no social security and thus pays no income tax. But dont think that being an illegal stoos them from getting government benefits like food stamps.Thats what trump and many others dont want. The dems love that though and want it to continue so after they get citizenship theyll vote for them.

Just read the link I provided you with.

The autor nails it here:

"So, if you're peddling this 'munuhmunuh NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS' bullshit you're either massively dense or an evil prick."

Geography ?

That's not what I wrote.
Geography what?

Do you understand what nazism was? It was national socialism as opposed to the international socialism the russian Bolsheviks were pushing. Its the same system of 1 party control, government controlling daily life of its citizens, little to no opposition, command economy, high military spending, lots of government subsidy and involvement in industry, media, etc. Only difference is that Nazism is socialism focusing on the german people and german nation as opposed to numerous different nationalities and even countries like the ussr model

IF somebody doesn't like Jews that is his/her right. What gives?

Exactly my point. To the average guy, it's the same totalitarian crap.
I am still waiting for the definition what the extreme right is other than a forum debate deflection.

It wasn't socialism. Private ownership was allowed for example, and the society was capitalistic. Socialism is an economic system where the means of production are owned by the state or public. In a pure socialist economy, there is no free market.

That is why my question in #857 was:

Other than allowing private property, how was Nazism different from Communism in governing and civil rights?

Thats communism, an extreme form of socialism....

Most people would agree that places like Norway sweden are socialist democracies yet property amd multiple parties are allowed. Especially cuba and venezuela are socialist. Yet that doesnt mean private property is outlawed.

No matter how you slice it, nazism is literally national SOCIALISM. Its socialism mixed with nationalism. The whole reason why nazism became so popular and they won elections is bc they mixed the popular tenets of socialism/communism to appeal to leftists with nationalism to appeal to the conservatives. Its just that you leftists dont like your precious socialism to be tarnished by stating facts like nazism is national socialism and that cuba, Venezuela and north korea who took socialism to an extreme are sh1tholes. Socialist prl ussr etc dont even exist and china ditched economic socialism long ago.

You a little short for that one Rich. lol
What has Alex been up to ?

Again thats communism which is socialism in an extreme form with a command economy. National socialist germanys was mixed. While yes it was capitalist the state had by far the most control over key industries. Nazis ruled all the largest factories, media outlets, banks, basically any large business. And good luck operating a small to mid sized company without the nazi stamp of approval. In that sense the nazi economy resembled a communist command economy but with less government control, although still far higher levels than a free market economy like the us

Unless nazi doesnt stand for national socialist, then nazism isnt nationalist socialism. Every socialist country had varying degrees of socialist tenets, some avoid certain tenets altogether. Some have de facto one party rule with a command economy while others have several parties with a market economy. Cubas socialist system is unlike venezuela which is unlike chinas which is unlike north koreas which was unlike the ussr amd even that differed in certain ways from prl. Yet theyre all socialist countries.

Just a few examples:
Race instead of social class played the key role. Nazi Germany was a capitalistic country allowing free enterprise. They had freedom of religion (except for Jews and Jehova's Witnesses, of course). You could travel freely abroad and also emigrate.


You're mistaken, Dirk. Look at 'Private Property'.

Socialism: "Public property includes factories, and means of production owned by the State but with worker control."

diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Hitler and the socialist dream
He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger.

independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html

The entire Mideast situation is going to change by year end when sanctions go back into effect.
Iran will run out of money to continue their expansion.
What is astonishing is Merkel and the EU prefer to try to get around the US sanctions and trade with Iran instead of cooperating with us and destroying the regime.

And the press thinks Trump acts badly with the EU ????
The EU doesn't pay for their own defense and they favor Iran.
What do you expect !

Ideally yes, in practicality no. Just as in nazi germany large factories were state owned as in china, cuba venezuela and even north korea the largest corporations are state owned, there is still private enterprise to varying degrees. The state does not own small businesses in chins despite being officially communist. Private enterprises like barber shops, restaurants, handy men services etc are permitted in venezuela and cuba. Thats why you have engineers cutting hair or driving taxis bc it pays more than working at a state job. Even in nk the regime now allows small bazaars, street food stalls, and even condos can be purchased in cash. The most luxurious condos run about 40k usd.


Bc they have no reason to atm. Unlike israel, iran never killed us soldiers or bombed us assets. Us only doesn't like iran bc Israel tells them not to. Tail wagging the dog. The eu leaders can see past that since theyre not nearly as controlled by zionists as the usa. Europe generally doesnt want to get involved in the syria quagmire. And if Iran is selling them cheaper oil theyll keep buying it till the cons outweigh thr pros.