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Merkels power crumbles rapidly



Weimarer
24 Feb 2020  #181

@Lyzko

Yes life choice. You dont want be homeless? Go Sozialamt. You get an emergency apartment and then you get a flat paid by welfare office.

Yes! Its that easy.

Lyzko
24 Feb 2020  #182

Nobody "chooses" consciously to be miserable, Weimarer! Who but a numbskull would swallow such rubbish.

delphiandomine
24 Feb 2020  #183

The AfD lost ground in Hamburg's state election, it seems. They barely got into the state parliament, but the Greens are surging. You have to wonder if the next government won't have a Green chancellor in Germany.

Lyzko
24 Feb 2020  #184

A crying shame Kramp Karrenbauer was basically forced to drop out of the race.
Hamburg isn't a surprise since she's always been a more forward-thinking, liberal city than say Erfurt or other formerly Eastern cities.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Feb 2020  #185

They barely got into the state parliament, but the Greens are surging.

No, they don't

Actually as hyped and supported by the media and supported by an urban elite in every big city as they are it's a wonder they don't get a higher percentage. Right now everybody projects his wishes into them, makes them to an "eierlegenden Wollmilchsau", something they never can hope to fullfill!

But yes, a green chancellor would clear the air...they will suffer being forced to make "realpolitik"...I foresee a split with their longstanding left wing, their "Fundis".

Not to mention that with a green-red-black coalition (maybe) that would make the AfD to the lone real opposition party (outside of Thuringia/Ramelos). Such a gov, with a green chancellor wouldn't be good for the country in the long run.

But it probably will happen...

Hamburg isn't a surprise since she's always been a more forward-thinking, liberal

Yeah well...it's the same pattern as everywhere...but it didn't help Clinton that the big coast cities are all democratic mainstays....it didn't help the Remainers that London inclusive a muslim mayor is so "forward-thinking, liberal" etc.....

In the end the big cities can't win it alone!

Lyzko
24 Feb 2020  #186

There we agree, B.B.

But where is that help going to come from? Some Deus ex-machina?

Bratwurst Boy
24 Feb 2020  #187

I once wrote about my guess already....it will come to a more defined regionalization...where cities and land come to be more independent politically, even more so as now in an already quite federal system like Germany....the consequence of an increasing splitting of our societies and the weakening of the nationstate....whole regions (and a big city is a whole region in itself) will come to govern themselves.

Such thing as in Thuringia wouldn't happen then...it wouldn't be so important to Berlin who rules with whom in Erfurt and the election outcome in Hamburg would be of no interest to anybody but the Hamburgers..

Miloslaw
24 Feb 2020  #188

.it will come to a more defined regionalization

Yeah, it's called sovereign nation states.....like The UK.... :-)

Bratwurst Boy
24 Feb 2020  #189

Not really, Milo!

In that future London would govern itself and stay with the EU as it's citizen wanted...not to mention Scotland etc.;)

Weimarer
24 Feb 2020  #190

@delphiandomine
AfD lost no ground in Hamburg, it got exactly same votes there as in 2015. Hamburg is a liberal lefzist ******** and always was.

Lyzko
25 Feb 2020  #191

Berlin was labled "Die Judenrepublik" by Hitler, so does that mean that all left-thinking cities are as you describe them??

Weimarer
25 Feb 2020  #192

@Lyzko
Leftist cities temd to be *********.

I hate to be in Belin, evrything is dirty and worn down. Nothing works. Ironicly San Fracisco is a ******** as well. Same counts for Cologne. Tokyo or Kopenhagen on other hand are good amd happen to be right governed cities.

Lyzko
25 Feb 2020  #193

And so you'd prefer a city such as your home town, where anyone, even a German, suspected of looking non-German, could be attacked by thugs at a moment's notice??!

You're cracked, dude!

Weimarer
25 Feb 2020  #194

@Lyzko

Yes, i prefer my state, which has 98% german population, his with law and order.

Nobody gets attacked here. Tourists are welcome.

Only tourists attacked were in Würzburg (West Germany) 2016. They were chinese and got attacked by a Merkel guest.

Here some pics of Amberg:

Merkels guest:

df

Thanks god his victims survived this horror which Merkels guest brought to them.

They married last year

You know whats the most funny thing?

When this Merkel vermin tried to attack police they gave him a clear headshot, sending him to Allah...and how did the Merkelists react?

A member of the Greens cried on Twitter and asked why police had to do this.

You cant make this madness up.

johnny reb
25 Feb 2020  #195

Have anymore pictures of that little bride ?

Lyzko
25 Feb 2020  #196

Nonetheless, Hoecke brings out the not so latent xenophobia resulting from fear and distrust! As with the late, "lamented" Joerg Haider in Austria, Orban Viktor in neighboring Hungary, Trump in the US, Hoecke and probably many of his followers (can't speak for all of the them) are poison spreaders, pandering to uncertainty of globalization!

Considering Germany's history, this is disturbing indeed.

Weimarer
25 Feb 2020  #197

@Lyzko
We need that poison as antivenom against Merkelists and it works very well. Merkelism needs to be destroyed as does evrything she stands for.

Rich Mazur
25 Feb 2020  #198

latent xenophobia resulting from fear and distrust!

There is no such thing as xenophobia. It's just a word designed to shame whose who do not want strangers around them. Like I don't want you in my house and I am not afraid. If anything, you should be scared to death of me if you decided to come in uninvited to have lunch while I am upstairs. There would be 87% probability that you would not finish it.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2020  #199

Like I don't want you in my house...

That's the thing!

YOUR house? YOU are the only owner?

I don't think the comparison fits....a whole country isn't like your own home, you are not the only boss!

Lyzko
26 Feb 2020  #200

Xenophobia is quite real, Rich, so quit your usual rationalizing! It's wrong, it's un-Christian, and it's unacceptable, albeit most people are guilty of it. One can't justify open displays of public hatred, I don't care what you hear on Fox 5.

Weimarer
26 Feb 2020  #201

@Lyzko

I dont fear them as i dont fear rodents.

I also dont hate them. I want those who made it here outand their life here as miserable as possible and i want those who try to come here blocked. That doesnt mean i hate or fear them. I tarvel entire world. Im not feared at all. I protect my nation, this great nation, against 3rd worlder scum trying to leech us.

Rich Mazur
26 Feb 2020  #202

One can't justify open displays of public hatred, I don't care what you hear on Fox 5.

My house vs country analogy is spot on. I control who is allowed in my house and I can and do discriminate all day long as I please.

The citizens control who is allowed in their country and are allowed to discriminate just the same. Their feelings are irrelevant as they are not required to explain their actions since the outsiders have no legal claims or rights.

Like Weimarer, I don't fear them until they are too close, too many, too dark, and too Muslim.

Lyzko
26 Feb 2020  #203

First of all, rodents carry rabies and can bite...not fun, believe me:-)
Foreigners are a different matter entirely. Always easiest to blame, scapegoat, the outsider, isn't it.
Today, the world fears the Chinese, nearly ninety-plus years back, the Jews were blamed for typhoid ("Seuchegefahr") throughout Europe. In fact, it was the result of a SPANISH influenza outbreak, nothing whatsoever to do with any pestilence from sanitary conditions in Jewish ghettos!! The Jews were the more convenient target group.

Your comparison is scary, Weimarer, as the association carries with it memories of the film >The Eternal Jew< (Der ewige Jude) from the mid-30's, associating Jews with vermin and proclaiming that the former must therefore be exterminated....as any other pest.

Your hateful content is despicable to say the least.

Rich Mazur
26 Feb 2020  #204

Your ability to deflect and avoid is more despicable because it is deliberate and with full premeditation. So you latch on to the throwaway post parts - like that rat comment.

BTW, his rat example was spot on: rats bring misery, multiply like rats, **** and eat like rats, add to the crime, and change how we live.

Immigrants, like rats, are parasites - they only consume wealth. What they don't consume, they send back home.

Lyzko
26 Feb 2020  #205

You purposely both conflate as well as confuse my argument which I know you understand perfectly even if you don't agree! Well, that's what a democracy is supposed to be though; I say my piece, you say yours and then I show you where you're a little mixed up.

That's fair.

Rich Mazur
26 Feb 2020  #206

Well, that's what a democracy is supposed to be though;

Let me explain using very simple words what democracy is: it's asking the citizens what they want.
Show me one "democracy" where the citizens said "yes" to more migrants.
If you don't have a specific referendum to show, don't bother with your evasive essays.

Rich Mazur
26 Feb 2020  #207

.a whole country isn't like your own home, you are not the only boss!

What kind of stupid non-argument argument is that. Nobody "owns" a country in the legal sense. But we collectively control what's going on. Or at least should be able to control through a legally binding referendum - including who is allowed to come and who is not.

And we are not obligated to explain the restrictions.

Lyzko
26 Feb 2020  #208

B.B.'s dead to rights on this one, Rich! I often have had my issues with my colleagues, but about this, he's on the mark.

The more one gets out of the big Eastern cities, for that matter, away from Chicago and enters the Beltway, the more it's every man for himself and the Devil take the high post.

From our glorifying the cowboy image up through now, it seems Americans steadfastly refuse to learn a thing from their own experience.

Rich Mazur
26 Feb 2020  #209

he's on the mark.

What's on the mark? State it clearly. It had better be about migrants.

Lyzko
26 Feb 2020  #210

Neither need nor appreciate your schoolmarming, Rich!
I've stated clearly enough on multiple occasions for anybody who has the brain power higher than a chrysanthemum.

B.B. also stated in clear English that your country is NOT the same as your own house.
Deal with it!!


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