To Moderators: is it normal to receive physical threats by mails through PF?

You must be going through hell inPolska. To read something you didn't want to in the internet must be very uncommon and a nightmare... What are you? 9?

Yeah Nocymrok - that sarcasm sums you up. We would expect nothing less. InPolska has contributed a lot to this forum.

In the pub and I couldn't possibly post what I really think of your attitude to this.

And Mods - you need to be VERY careful. In the UK at any rate the forum could be held accountable if the threat were very real... So why not act and clean this place up?

Just a thought.......

This sarcasm sums you up and this thread shows exactly why Westerners are so easy target to the islamic savages. You are so fragile and sensitive.

There is only ONE way to 'clean is up' - to read / review / pre-moderate all private mails sent. Would that work for you?

I think most of us (and remember this happened to a lady) would be upset to get a nasty email in our inbox. I wouldn't like it either - kind of an invasion of personal space. And I'm fairly thick-skinned.

Fair enough, but somebody here has obviously targeted InPolska, and it's a shame. Making this board register only would be a start if you were serious or cared about posters' safety.

Wouldn't be a bad idea if it was made crystal clear that any use of private messaging functions aren't actually private.

Fine with me.

Ok, delphiandomine and Harry. To make it work, we need to be on the same page (moderators need to learn what you find offensive, what kind of keywords should trigger not delivering the message, etc.). Please send a PM to me and/or moderators with username/password to your registered email accounts so that we could train for a couple of days. We would be reading your emails and be moving those which we think you should not see to the Deleted folder; then you have time to review them and if there is some message you'd like to keep, let us know the reason why. After a few days we should learn what you consider an unacceptable message that should not be forwarded to you.

Good luck monitoring the accounts of all 33,939 members, and have fun, mods... :)
So far there are only two volunteers :

Adminitrators/Moderators: Thank you for your reaction! As said, since I have received nasty + threats THRU my mail address (they are not stupid so did not use the MP function), I have blocked my mail address. A few people in PF do have it (some even have my phone number) but I am 100% sure that I can trust them but from now on nobody else shall be able to use it.

Yes, Administrators/Moderators, you need to clean up fora and stop accepting nasty insults based upon race, religion, nationality and sex orientation and also please stop hosting all that anti-Muslim bs. Besides, 99.99% hereof have NOTHING to do with Poland and Polish matters. I even suspect that all those socalled OP from Nepal, Bengladesh, Pakistan and so forth requesting info re living and working in Pl are trolls and only aim at provoking more hatred. Let's be serious, people from such places are most unlikely to be interested in Poland, all the more as they do not have communities in Poland. You can check their IP addresses and find out where they write from.

Someone (Pol3?) said that we could make public our ID. I am not against that. I could also mention my IP address so everybody would know that I'm writing from Poland. Like it is said, honest people have nothing to hide...

Well, thanks again! :)

@Jon: sending threats to a man would be unacceptable too and I'm sure that you agree... They used the MAIL address function NOT MP as they are not stupid ;). However, I put the messages that I had deleted back into my "inbox" so I can keep them just in case ;). From now on, my mail address is blocked.

@Doug: you can understand that it is not a matter of big or small contribution to the fora. Even someone writing a couple of messages should not receive nasty and threatening messages. There is NO excuse. I know you and I am sure that you agree with me.

Well, "case closed" for me but of course I keep said messages (I am not stupid ;))

The plot thickens. I haven't used the email account I used to start an account here in several months. I decided to try to log in and found I couldn't. The mail system was "transferred" and I didn't send some message in time so I got this message:

"Twoje konto pocztowe nie zostało przeniesione na nową pocztę. Informację o zapisie na nową pocztę wysyłaliśmy w lipcu, sierpniu i wrześniu oraz wyświetlaliśmy na portalu..."

(your account wasn't transferred to the new system, information on registering in the new system was sent in july, august, september and shown on the portal...)

If InPolska shares the address of the emails in question with a moderator (not in the open forum of course) they can check it against the email address I used to create an account here (and the moderator can try to send an email to that address and see what happens).

I am anxious to have this resolved as I greatly dislike the open-ended accusations made against me by InPolska and want them cleared up as soon as possible (and once it is cleared I want the posts with the accusations she made against me deleted).

...or you could just check the SMTP logs and get to the bottom of what's happened here?

Not for me. You've made direct accusations against me and I want them to be resolved (and then I want the thread deleted but only after the accusations are withdrawn).

@Maf; until last night, anybody could send me MAILS thru my profile. I blocked the option last night. I may be naive that I'm sure that among the people who have my mail address, none would be sick enough and send me nasty things using your name and Szczur's ;). So someone whould have used your id???????

Why have I made it public? 1. these people "met" me through the fora 2. members need to know what kind of people you guys are and 3. some other members have also received threats (I don't know from whom) so it may concern a lot of people and it is NOT acceptable.

As said, "case closed" for me as I don't want to give too much importance to racist scum but one more time and the Warsaw police shall intervene.

PS: if you have time, just try to find out who "would have "stolen" your id" and also Szczur's! ;)

So, you allegedly received some threats by your email you made available to many people and then you proceed to blame PF for that and right now you are trying to blackmail PF into change of their policy and introduction of censorship.
Hmm doesn't it sounds fishy ?

You are an adult right? You are responsible for your email address and if you choose to make it easily available you have to face unwelcome consequences of your decision. Why would you blame PF for your own carelessness?

As you seems to be satisfied with talking without taking any action, hence the crisis is over and you survived outslug of nastiness, can we now move on to talk about real problems and issues instead of playing in drama straight from latin telenovelas.

So your'e still accusing me of threatening you.


The case is not closed. You're accusing me of a crime and I want it resolved quickly. Please contact the moderators to resolve what address was used.

I'm not stopping this until you withdraw your accusation.

@Iron; I don't blame PF but I blame Mafketis and Szczur. Even if my mail address was available thru PF, nobody else has ever sent me threats or other nasty messages. Only 2 members did.

PS: since you act as the devil's advocate, I suppose you are the kind to send threats to people by mails! You think it is so ... normal that it's even suspicious. Well, I need to go so continue without me.... ;)

Mods: Why is a poster allowed to make accusations like this?

InPolska is accusing me of a crime. Resolve this with her cooperation and if she refuses to cooperate then delete this thread (and any further accusations she makes against me).

So ask mods and Administrator can they identify the culprit. If they can good for everyone, if not .....well just post those threats here and let it lie.

You acting here like an unbalanced person, ~I don't know you and I can judge you only by your posts here - you are not a very credible person in my eyes and a fact that you have blindly embraced progressiveness doesn't improve your standing.

Sure I'm doing all the time ask harry or jon or delph they will surely confirm it.

Well live is hard and then you die as the old Polish saying goes, I think that there are all kinds of people out there and acting as everybody is like a rosy petal from the fairy tales is not what a mature person does.

InPolska, in fairness, you started this thread and made the issue public so you have to see it through. If you make public accusations against people then you need to give them a chance to respond and if they deny those accusations, they have a right to see the issue through to its conclusion. I'm not a techno head at all but it seems that it is possible to find out where these emails came from and you have a responsibility to do that. If you'd just raised it with the mods that would be different. But you've brought into the public domain. I would certainly have no problem believing that Szczur could have sent you such stuff, judging from the tone of his posts here but Maf is denying it strenuously. He has a right to see his name cleared if he is not guilty.
That's not an acceptable thing to say to Ironside. He's a pain in the arse without a doubt but that doesn't mean he'd threaten a woman via email or any other means.

It's pretty simple.There will surely be SMTP logs (if there isn't, the Admin is incompetent - and I don't believe he is). SMTP is the protocol used for sending mail - so he should be able to see a) if something was sent, b) the IP address of who sent it (yes, I know it isn't foolproof, but it can at least be used to check if it was the same IP range that Mafketis normally uses) and c) when it was sent along with d) who it was sent to.

No need for any more trouble.

Thanks for that Delph. The IP address thing is interesting because InPolska says she had two emails from two different people. Now that seems a coincidence that she gets two threatening mails from two different members at the same time. So as I suggested yesterday, it's quite possible that they're from the same person under two different names. So the IP address would be the same/similar. And of course the other interesting thing is that neither of those mails might have been sent by the two names used. They could have been sent by another member pretending to be Maf and Szczur. Either way, it should be cleared up to the best of the mods' ability.

I am not an IT specialist but all I can say is that one author was "Szczur" (just stupid comments but no threats) and one was "Mafketis" with a message titled "stay away or....". Since these 2 persons got my mail address ONLY through my profile, it could be possible for PF to identify IP address(es). One weird thing is that BOTH were sent at about same time (;)) so it could be ONE person, so either Szczur OR Mafketis OR a THIRD person aiming at creating a mess (I of course rule Levy out because not smart enough to even think of such a scenario). If such THIRD person proved, I would of course APOLOGIZE to both Szczur and Mafketis. Szczur as a "nazi rat lover" is what he says he is so .... and Mafketis is clearly racist and xenophobic so messages from either pseudo could make sense ... Since both messages were sent to my mail address THRU my profile, it may be possible to identify the sender(s).

@Atch: You are obviously very naive otherwise you would know that insults and threats are not rare thru MPs and mails thru profile on PF. Some female members are even scarred to precise that they are women but of course some men do receive such messages too. Sorry, but the "stay away ... or" is deplaced and of course refers only to my PUBLIC intervention, hence appropriate to make my current situation public. Obviously, you like to gossip about it so another proof, I have made you a huge favor as I'll keep you busy for some time ;).

PS: Believe me, although I was shocked and I refuse such intimidation, I have other priorities in my life so if people want to continue and write 300,000 messages about it, at least Muslims shall be given a break ;)

Where is it written Mafketis? If you pay attention to the forum my username is mafketis (not Mafketis). A person hijacking my username might capitalize it....


As do I.


Disagreeing with you on specific issues is not the same thing as racism or xenophobia. But I don't care what you think about me if you simply stop making unfounded and false accusations against me.

And why didn't you take this to the mods in the first place?

InPolska, you have a habit of not reading accurately what people say. I'm not saying such things are rare, I just said that I wouldn't necessarily assume that a poster (Ironside) who's a bit prickly and grumpy would automatically send abusive mails.

Which is exactly what I said, so why are you so cross with me?? Look here it is:


I'm agreeing with you, you silly sausage.

So I"m a gossiping old biddy, as Polonius would say? InPolska, may God be good to you but you have a most unfortunate way of alienating people who mean you no harm whatsoever and in fact are quite fond of you. You can be very partronising you know. But then so can I!! I don't think I'm quite as bad as you though...

For the record, if you're referring to proof that you received the emails, I believe that you did indeed receive them. I'm just debating where they might have come from.

If you don't want to become the subject of discussion, then don't draw attention to yourself.

there's another.

Just permanently turn off that stupid feature, most people don't use it and if you want to message another user just ise the PM function.
There's always more than one solution amigo :)

A good idea

Why would you need to read all of my emails in order to read the ones which are sent using your own system? But if you really feel you need to read all of my emails, I'm more than happy to set up an account such as harryatpolishforums.com@gmail.com and set that as my email account for PF purposes; please advise as to what you would like the password on that account to be.


It's an excellent idea.