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Barney
26 Jun 2024  #721

@TheOther
She sounds more like an AI version of Tina Turner than Janis Joplin

Miloslaw
26 Jun 2024  #722

@TheOther

Your Karise Eden post bought a tear to my eye.....unbelievable!!!!

There can never be another Janis Joplin, you're right, but Karise Eden has an extraordinary powerful voice.

Agreed!

@Crnogorac3

Much as it pains me to say so, I didn't think your post was too bad.Better than the rubbish Crow posts.

I have decided to take Joker's advice and abandon the Polish Music thread,no Poles were taking part,which is shameful, only people like me that are not Polish but have a link to Poland.
In any case, you can post any type of music you like on this thread and many people already have.We only need one Music thread on PF.

Note to Mods,keep this one going, because it is popular.

I have one post for you tonight.She is English born but her grandparents were Polish, Judie Tzuke.



Miloslaw
26 Jun 2024  #723

She sounds more like an AI version of Tina Turner than Janis Joplin

Bollox!Why are you always so negative?

Barney
26 Jun 2024  #724

@Miloslaw
Thats what she sounds like. There is nothing resembling Joplin in her voice.

If you can't hear Tina Turner in that clip there is no hope

Miloslaw
26 Jun 2024  #725

There is nothing resembling Joplin in her voice.

I disagree, either you need a new hearing aid or you know nothing about music.

Barney
26 Jun 2024  #726

I know a shed load about music not just classic rock. As much as I like listening to the decorators radio I've heard it all a million times. There is not a single track posted that made me or anyone else stop and think thats creative.

I like music in all its forms, classic rock is no different to todays pop in that it is a commercially successful sound but then punk happened for a reason. People get old and stick to what they know. It would be weird if I listened to popular 1920s music in the 70s

jon357
26 Jun 2024  #727

This is a nice one. Some of the people involved and some of the extras in the video are known to me.

I played a bit just now while getting the link. It made me feel really tired and a bit rattled since that's the tune I have on my alarm clock. Off to bed now.


TheOther
26 Jun 2024  #728

There is not a single track posted that made me or anyone else stop and think thats creative.

Not a single one? You can't be serious. Honest question: what do you consider "creative"?

Barney
26 Jun 2024  #729

Paraphrasing John Lennon if I could bottle that I'd be a musician.

A good indication is if it sounds like it was made yesterday... That doesn't exclude the obvious.

Three examples of songs that fit the bill: Dylan's like a rolling stone, sex pistols holidays in the sun and Jimmy Webb's Wichita Lineman.
They are very much of their time but also timeless all three are overplayed but there you go.

Doesn't mean I think those tracks are fantastic or especially creative but they are timeless whether you like them or not.

TheOther
26 Jun 2024  #730

A good indication is if it sounds like it was made yesterday...

For me, "creative" is something that is unique when released. At various times in history Jazz, Blues, Rock 'n' Roll, Rock, Disco, Punk, Acid, Techno ... you name it ... fell into that category, so most songs posted here were considered creative once. Makes sense?

Barney
26 Jun 2024  #731

@TheOther
Only if they do something new not necessarily radical. Almost everything posted, and I like a lot of it just captures the prevailing feel at the time
That's nostalgia

TheOther
26 Jun 2024  #732

it just captures the prevailing feel at the time

Yes, that's pretty much what I said. A band like Cream for example was unique and new in the 1960s. They were considered highly creative at that particular point in time. 60 years on the music might be considered "nostalgic" or "old-fashioned", but that doesn't change the fact that the music was (and still is) creative.

Barney
27 Jun 2024  #733

@TheOther
Bruce and Baker brought their Jazz sensibilities to Cream that's where their creativity came from. The popular focus on Clapton a d management push for pop was their lasting legacy. Famously Cream are renowned for their live playing which is not captured on their live albums.

How creative or influential they were is, in my opinion massively overstated.

I used to watch a band when I was 16 who did Cream covers, it was a very special time that has left a massive impression but musically as a unit I dont think they were so special.

Gotta go. But more context to the music is better than posting videos

Before I slope off a quick quiz... what links Dark side of the moon a d a BBC TV show called Butterflies?

Crow
27 Jun 2024  #734

Serbians sing famous greek song `Maria me ta kitrina` - Maria in yellow

Aleksandra Rakonjac i Zeljko Samardzic - Maria me ta kitrina - NNK - EM 25 - 12.03.2023.



Miloslaw
27 Jun 2024  #735

There is not a single track posted that made me or anyone else stop and think thats creative.

Firstly, stop talking for other people,just post your opinion.

Not a single one? You can't be serious.

He can't be as he is assuming that most people agree with him.

For me, "creative" is something that is unique when released.

Agreed!

@Crow

Why is all Serbian music so awful?Or is it just you that have terrible taste?

Anyway,despite the quite passionate posts earlier, I am posting some Classic British Blues tonight.



Miloslaw
27 Jun 2024  #736

As we have a few Blues and Blues/Rock fans on here, I have some more British Blues for you!



Barney
27 Jun 2024  #737

@Miloslaw
That is my opinion.

Agreed

So the birdy song is creative? Its certainly unique but is it creative.

jon357
27 Jun 2024  #738

Not conventional blues but one of my favourite songs. Most of her stuff is a bit to colky for me however this one is excellent.


Barney
27 Jun 2024  #739

@jon357
Thats excellent, very well structured.

What I like about that kind of stuff is that there is nowhere to hide, musically and lyrically. The same goes for all folk music from trad. through blues to Country.

Miloslaw
27 Jun 2024  #740

So the birdy song is creative? Its certainly unique but is it creative

You are just playing with words now.Are you sure that when you say creative that you don't mean original?And anyway, what has that necessarily got to do with good music?

I will end my posts on here with some classic British Blues, I would be interested to hear your opinion on this music Barney.







jon357
27 Jun 2024  #741

What I like about that kind of stuff is that there is nowhere to hide, musically and lyrically

That's certainly true for a lot of her songs. She had a great voice.

Barney
27 Jun 2024  #742

@Miloslaw
Not playing with words.

You seem to misunderstand, I'm not criticising anyones taste in music, thats pointless. What I'm saying is that a seemingly neverending list of very similar songs becomes tiresome. I like a shed load of that stuff but I don't see much difference between the famous decorators radio and the stuff blasting out of a two door Corsa stopped at the lights.

She had a great voice.

And the lyrics are moving, they paint a great picture

jon357
27 Jun 2024  #743

they paint a great picture

She had decades of singing at Working Men's Clubs, Folk nights, plenty of Catholic Clubs and Irish Centres and also Trades and Labour Clubs. One of very few singers of Traveller roots.

Her husband, Martin Carthy, is of course one of the greats however of course she was a star in her own right, especially after getting big mainstream awards. Their daughter, Eliza Carthy, is pretty good too.

This one is also on my alarm clock since I hate it so much I can't sleep through it. Not the music, the lyrics or the performance.. More what it means to me and the way it doesnʼt let me forget what and where I came from and how easily you can lose what's around you when there's people who want to take it from you.


This is a nice one


Miloslaw
27 Jun 2024  #744

What I'm saying is that a seemingly neverending list of very similar songs becomes tiresome

I completely agree with that,but can you say the same about some of the older stuff?
Question is, was music better back in the sixties or seventies or now?

johnny reb
28 Jun 2024  #745

This will be my last post in this thread tonight.
(was music better back in the sixties or seventies or now?)
What a dumb question.
Was the vodka better back in the sixties or seventies or now ?

TheOther
28 Jun 2024  #746

Before I slope off a quick quiz... what links Dark side of the moon a d a BBC TV show called Butterflies?

Difficult one, I had to google a bit... :)

"The title song "Love is like a Butterfly" is sung by Clare Torry. Her other work includes performing the improvised, wordless vocals on the song "The Great Gig in the Sky" on Pink Floyd's 1973 album The Dark Side of the Moon."

Crow
28 Jun 2024  #747

@Crow

Why is all Serbian music so awful?Or is it just you that have terrible taste?

Its not that. Its you. You are limited. I told you there are many different directions of music in Serbia. I didn`t show you even a fraction.

Crow
28 Jun 2024  #748

Let me now present two performances of Symphonic Orchestra and Choir of Serbian Radio and Television

In first case, its the performance with the foreign guest, a French tenor Amadi Lagha of Tunisian origin. There you can listen modern version of famous old Serbian ethno song Pukni Zoro (Break the Dawn or White breasts of my mother)



Break the Dawn or White breasts of my mother

Can you hear me honey?
My horse trots
Do you hear from a distance
My voice is calling you

The trumpets blew
The battle is over
The bells are ringing, the dawn is breaking
I'm coming back, my dear

Oh, so break the dawn
Wake up the old mother
So let's see who comes to her
Oh, so break the dawn
To kiss my darling
White breasts to hug her

Do you remember honey?
The promises of my
The sun will rise for us too
Don't worry, God will provide

In the second case, you can listen Serbian battle march, composed in 1915 by the Serbian composer Stanislav Binički, to commemorate the Serbian victory (Serbia was joined to Entente alliance, battle was first allied victory in WWI) over AH army in Battle of Cer during World War I and came to be seen as a symbol of Serbian resistance and victory in the World War I

The composition became an international hit and a staple of world music. Swedish composer Felix Stahl obtained the rights to the song which he published and promoted. Danish guitarist Jørgen Ingmann had a number one hit on the Danish pop singles chart in 1963 in a version arranged for solo electric guitar on the Swedish Metronome Records label. His recording was also released in West Germany, where it reached No. 5, in the UK, in France, and in the U.S.




March onto Drina

To battle, go forth you heroes,
Go on and don't regret your lives
May Cer (mountain) hear the front, may Cer see the battle
and river Drina glory, courage
And heroic hand of father and son!

Sing, sing, Drina - of cold water,
Remember, and tell of the ones that fell
Remember the brave front,
Which full of fire, mighty force
Expelled the foreigner from our dear river!

Sing, sing, Drina, tell the generations,
How we bravely fought
The front sang, the battle was fought
Near cold water
Blood was flowing,
Blood was streaming
By the Drina for freedom!

jon357
28 Jun 2024  #749

Sing, sing, Drina

Drina?

Queen Victoria (Victoria was her Regnal name, her personal name was Alexandrina) was always known to her family as Drina.

Crow
28 Jun 2024  #750

What to tell you man. Drina is pure Serbian word. Ancient and primordial spoken in time immemorial, in the morning of White race, not some Indo-Europeans. If English does not originate from Serbian, go you explain to me the meaning behind word of Drina.

See why Tolkien studied Serbian language.

If you are kind, I will tell you meaning of word Drina.


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