Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Well, what can I say, I just don't like it when White people are raped and murdered by invaders.

Before this war I was more skeptical of Ukrainian nationalism and felt like it was too hostile towards both Russia and Poland.

Well, congrats, Russia proved me wrong and proved the Ukranians right about that one.

What Russia is trying to do in Ukraine is a lot like a less sneaky form of ... White Genocide. Dispossess them, take away their sovereignty, erase their identity, send in non-Europeans to rape and kill. Imagine thinking a pro-white person would be in favor of that.

MUKACHEVO, Ukraine - Ukrainian troops recaptured territory around Kyiv on Saturday as Russian forces pulled back from towns they had seized in the opening days of the war and left in their wake scenes of destruction and horror, including the abandoned bodies of dead civilians.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-forces-pull-back-from-kyiv-exposing-horrors-of-war/ar-AAVNn1c?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=1735111a9dbe4b748dd37ee9cfd28c93

@Korvinus

Sorry mate,but you wear your racism too well.
This war has nothing to do with skin colour and if you think it does the you are either an extremist or an idiot.
Probably both.

A comment from dailymail.com:

Pro Russian locals murdered by Banderites after Russian troops pulled out.

It this a possibility? Those hands being tied...sure looks like a staged scene. Why would anyone do that AND put a bullet into the victim's head? Did NKVD bother with tying their victims' hands? How about the German SS? Who carries a white piece of cloth long enough for the job?

Yeah, both of them did this.
Standard modus operandi for Nazi types.

Yes, RuSSists vowed in January and February they weren`t going to invade and even accused the West of hysteria. Empire of liars and lies.

Russia's unprovoked bloody invasion of Ukraine amounts to a "genocide", president Volodymyr Zelensky said on Sunday
The Ukrainian president was speaking on CBS News with Face the Nation host Margaret Brennan, and was asked directly if Russian forces were carrying out deliberate killings of civilians in his country.

"Is this genocide?" asked Ms Brennan.
"Indeed. This is genocide," responded the Ukrainian president.
He went on to say that his country was facing "elimination" of its nationality and system of government.
Putin's family needs to be hung right in front of him as that is all he understands.

That is what the RuSSians are.
Liars and animals.
Their inhumanity is on a scale that is comparable to Nazi Germany.....or Soviet Russia.....

My, my... Those damn Russians should always reveal all their plans upfront and swear under oath that it's true to keep the Western swamp and pawian happy. Especially after the Minsk agreements being kind of ...what do you call it...ignored. Honesty is always a virtue, darling.


You forgot the napalm guys.


Are you planning to run for president? If so, you have to mellow down. I detect insanity. Or is it just for the PF audiences?

I didn't.

I have never defended some American actions.

But how in the hell does that justify Russian actions?

The Brits,Spanish and Portuguese were Slave dealers.many years ago, so it is OK for Arabs to do the same now?
WTF?

twitter.com/VladVexler (also youtube.com/c/VladVexler)

twitter.com/kamilkazani

igorsushko.com/2022/03/all-fsbletters-translated-as-of-march.html

twitter.com/christogrozev

twitter.com/y_akopov

akarlin.substack.com/

Note that all are Russian/Ukraine/area insiders and not western mainstream types...

I've shown you some of mine, what about your sources for your claims that had Zelensky simply renounced NATO birds would be hopping and bunny rabbits singing?

It does not. It's just that I don't trust anyone. Ukrainians included. But I am not a naive little boy like some here and I understand the power of propaganda and lies and I am not shocked or disturbed by them. These are just weapons and no better or worse than guns and bombs if they produce the expected results.

Yes, boys and girls, mommy and daddy do have sex and lie to make you happy. Like with Santa.


Maf, I appreciate your response. I will look them up.

Agreed.

There is propaganda from both sides in every war.

The truth is always somewhere between both extremes.

So, we are looking at over 10,000 dead Russian soldiers so far.....Russia is losing this war......

I am really curious what you think about those dead bodies with their hands tied up. Logically, the Russians get zero benefits from this and only the downside. The Ukrainians are the exact opposite - huge upside. I really can't explain this other than as a staged photo-op.

I just think that Russian troops, hungry, tired and with very low moral, really were stupid enough to commit those acts.
The thought of a propaganda advantage handed to Ukrainians did not even cross their minds.

Let us refrain ourselves from obvious war propaganda. @Miloslaw, shall we. Shell your hands give us air. Its rhetorical question, sure.

Ukrainian officials said they have asked the International Criminal Court (ICC) to visit the mass graves seen in Bucha, a suburb northwest of Kyiv, so experts can gather evidence of possible Russian war crimes.

The request comes as Kyiv's mayor, Vitali Klitschko, said the discovery of the graves - made as Ukrainian troops recaptured territory and Russian forces pulled back from towns they had seized in the war's earliest days - could "only be described as genocide."

Oh the Commie Ruskies are guilty alright, just wait and see.

Vatican, Hungary, Slovakia accepted rubles.


Madman with damaged brain. You trust him, brate?

From AP:

Hungary's pro-Putin PM Orban claims victory in national vote

The president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, on Saturday depicted the Hungarian leader as out of touch with the rest of Europe, which has united to condemn Putin, support sanctions against Russia and send aid including weapons to Ukraine.

"He is virtually the only one in Europe to openly support Mr. Putin," Zelenskyy said.

That tells me Orban is honest, a Hungarian patriot, or both.

About that "genocide" near Kyiv...

1. We don't know who "executed' these men. Both sides committed war crimes during WW2.
2. We don't know if they were caught by the Russians armed or unarmed. If they were armed civilians, under international laws, they were illegal combatants and, as such, not covered by the Geneva Convention and, thus, eligible for immediate execution by the other side.

3. None of the "executed" men were claimed to be in uniform. See Item 2 above.
4. Women were not among the "executed" persons. This would suggest that they were "armed civilians".
5. Any women and children who were found dead but not "executed" could be classified as collateral damage similar to the cases in Iraq.

Please let me know if any of the above is incorrect,

For an Illinois senior citizen you are putting in a good shift with a detailed rebuttal of war crimes

One month ago all those people were minding their own business peacefully

Ukrainian mayor and her family were reportedly killed in an "execution style" slaying by Russian troops before being thrown into a pit in a forested area on Sunday.

Olga Sukhenko, the mayor of the Ukrainian town of Motyzhyn, which is located near Kyiv, was allegedly shot alongside her husband and son for refusing to comply with Russian demands.

Ahem no, this could not be further from the truth. Even those deemed "unlawful combatant" are still protected by the Geneva convention.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant

Punishing, let alone executing any PoW without a proper trial is a war crime. And no, you are not allowed to sentence "unlawful combatants" to death in any case just for being "unlawful combatants".

This is btw. not some new insight btw. It was established at Nuremberg that executing spies and saboteurs without a proper trial is a war crime.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commando_Order

That is so crass....but honest and true! I couldn't have said it any better....

To know how that woman (and her supporters still in power) is still adored and feted in Germany....unbelievable!!!


He is surely honest.....but to be pro-Putin and being a patriot doesn't fit together. You can't be both! The war in Ukraine shows that Putin doesn't like other nations patriots....only pro-russian ones!

Damn, war ain't pretty , is it? Won't see this on American media. Appreciate the link though.

You are lying. Quoting from Wikipedia:

An unlawful combatant, illegal combatant or unprivileged combatant/belligerent is, according to United States law, a person who directly engages in armed conflict in violation of the laws of war and therefore is claimed to not be protected by the Geneva Conventions.[1][2][3]

Russia Committed 'Apparent War Crimes,' Human Rights Watch Says
It documents with chilling detail numerous cases of laws-of-war violations, including repeated rape, two summary killings as well as other incidents of unlawful violence and threats against civilians.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-committed-apparent-war-crimes-human-rights-watch-says/ar-AAVOnV0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0888c1dde7c740fcb705d32c4ba8437e

That's not fair, BB. I had no reason to like the German army who invaded Poland, but I do recall saying here on this forum that those German soldiers who did it were patriots and that I resent calling them "Nazis". No, I am not talking about Gestapo and SS.

They also believed in and supported Hitler. These concepts - being a patriot and supporting a leader who is later seen as a madman - are not mutually exclusive and nobody who felt that way at the time should apologize for it.


If they were armed they should be shot for the same reason why American cops shoot armed thugs without trials.

No, Russia did not commit "apparent war crimes" just as Germany did not commit war crimes. At the very worst some Russians and Germans did - and only "allegedly". After the trial and the appeals - for sure if found guilty.

There is no such thing as an "apparent war crime". Apparent or clearly visible is only a dead body. In itself, it proves nothing beyond what an autopsy can reveal. Crime is in the action leading to it and is not "apparent".

Ja okay.....Hitler was (by then) seen as a German! Germans supporting a german leader....you can see that as patriotic, no problem!

But Orban obeying/supporting Putin is.....well....