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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Novichok
13 Feb 2022  #751

Either pro US or pro Russia. Cant be both.

I sure can and I already explained how. The US has no damn business meddling in Europe AGAIN. Take the toys and the men home and tell Europe to go **** itself. As long as that LGBT NATO does what it does, Russia has a reason to be on edge. I don't like when Russia is on edge. I will feel better when Ukraine's legit president that was "driven" out of office is back in it. That is why I wish Russia the very best if that is their goal.

And my congratulations to Putin for the "annexation" of Crimea. Well done, man. I mean faking those polls with 90% voting for it. How did you do it?

Those poor Russians "trapped" in Ukraine should just go to Russia.

Great idea. Right after the US returns Gitmo to Cuba.

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #752

@Novichok
Returning Gitmo. That's funny. Maybe the rightful Cuban government that was "driven" out should be returned? Maybe the Russian government should be driven out and the Romanov's put back in power? All the word play on both sides is really tedious. I bet the elections in Belarus were above board too. LMAO

The 1970's mentality has no place in todays political climate. This goes for Russia, USA, and Poland. If countries would simply focus on their own mess then other countries wouldn't be watching them, they would focus on their own mess as well. But Russia feels like they need attention away from their disastrous economy and their civil discontent. USA thinks its the worlds Police force, but the rest of the world thinks that way too and promotes it so they don't have to do their own dirty work.

I am all for a small war in Ukraine. Gets the economy moving globally. Love the prospects of what it will do for my Boeing stock.

amiga500
13 Feb 2022  #753

82nd airborne are no joke and they are combat ready.

From an Aussie forum I am part of.
" I am waiting, but Biden hasn't so far deployed any US Armour or Mechanised units suited for conflict on the open plains of the Ukraine. US commentators are saying that with the 82nd deployment , the boots on the ground, seem to be Logistics and Light Infantry units that move and provide security for the movement of missiles. They are optimistic, and think Biden will wait till the last moment then offer to withdraw the missiles in Poland and Roumania that were put there for/by NATO.

Putin will graciously accept and not invade. Crisis averted! These two heroes P.& B. will then get Nobel Peace Prizes like Obama."

Crow
13 Feb 2022  #754

I only hope, when war is over, Eastern Germany won`t share destine of rest of western Europe that would finally openly become Eurabia, falling bodily and spiritually onto something else, as predicted by many prominent thinkers of the world and this very forum.

Velund
13 Feb 2022  #755

Maybe the rightful Cuban government that was "driven" out should be returned?

Maybe all North American colonies should return to British Crown immediately?

Crow
13 Feb 2022  #756

Britain is wise. It may indeed acquire back its old North American colonies.

mafketis
13 Feb 2022  #757

faking those polls with 90% voting for it. How did you do it?

Probably took lessons from PRI (ruling party in Mexico for many decades which was famous for its legendary and massive voting fraud).

I would say that Russia is Mexico with nukes but... what does that mean for Central Asians....

Far from being a nationalist of any kind Putin has kept the borders open to Central Asian countries so that very large numbers of school children in Moscow are muslims who speak no Russian...

Those who point this out in public in Russia.... tend to fall out of windows...

US- Mexico

Russia - Central Asia (and Putin's not about to build a wall)

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #758

@amiga500
Another 8500 put on alert in US for quick deployment. Armor left US ports last week. Not all vehicles can transport by plane. Ausie news may be talking out of their behinds. Biden is weak and senile, but his generals and NATO will never pull back, and Poland would never go for it. This is Biden's opportunity to look strong for a change and he wont be dumb enough to miss out on it. Domestically he is a disaster, but internationally he can gain a lot of ground with this. Smart politicians dont miss these opportunities.

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #759

I am all for a small war in Ukraine.

That is wrong thinking. War, whether small or big, is always evil coz completely innocent people die or their lives are shattered in another way. Besides, a small war tends to escalate into a big one far too often coz events start rolling onto you like in an avalanche. The best is to avoid it and engage only when run into the corner like Ukrainians now. But praying for it is indecent.

Love the prospects of what it will do for my Boeing stock.

Stop thinking about your finances only. Think about death and destruction. Don`t you understand that what you gain through the war will be dirty money?? And one day it will turn against you.

Velund
13 Feb 2022  #760

very large numbers of school children in Moscow are muslims who speak no Russian...

In some districts it is majority in classes, usually grouped by initial level of Russian in a few parallel classes (groups). In a 2 years most speak Russian better than their parents. ;)

But... It is a little wild to see list of a class in a moscow school with one (sic!) girl with Russian name and family, the rest is Azeri and from Centra Asia.

Many personnel in large supermarkets is also from Central Asia. Those who fulfill delivery orders (become VERY popular here during Covid lockout to order groceries to door) and have to talk with customers by phone is usually have fluent Russian. And, I would say, if your order was picked by asian woman - you'll have best fruits out of possible, for sure. ;)

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #761

@pawian
You are way too naive. Take off the rose colored glasses and see the world for what it is. "Evil" is in the eyes of the beholder. To some Russians, Islamist, or Commies, we are the evil ones. For us on the side of freedom they are the evil ones. Dirty money? All money is dirty. Do you think about the Chinese kid in the factory working for a few zloty a day when you turn on your TV? Do you think of the kid who picked the coffee beans in the morning? Or the coffee manufacturer who has a side gig hustling cocaine after coffee production ends?

I have friends in Kiev, they have already left and will arrive in Krakow tomorrow. People, common people are preparing for war. Buying guns, ammo, food and bottled water. Whether the war happens or not is yet to be seen, but people are not shying away from it. I am prepared to head back to the US if things get out of control. And if I cant get back then I guess i have to stand my ground. Life is not about unicorns and rainbows.

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #762

You are way too naive

No, I only try to retain some remnants of human decency in me.

"Evil" is in the eyes of the beholder.

Looking forward to war in which innocent people will die is evil in the eyes of decent people. Isn`t it obvious and simple?

As for Chinese kid or coffee beans picker, do those workers get killed and their homes are razed to the ground like in a war?

Do not try to make two completely different things equal coz it is ridiculous.

people are not shying away from it.

Yes, coz they have no choice but to fight hard for their independence from a greedy invader. However, looking forward to it your enthusiastic style is simply indecent.

I am prepared to head back to the US

Of course, very clever, wishing for a war and then running away from it. You are really impudent if you openly admit to, even boast of, such disgraceful behaviour in the forum. Do you really feel the need to act like scum?

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #763

@pawian
Yes. Those children who are exploited are often just killed when they are of no use. Often their homes burned out or blown up. Clearly you have never been to Mexico or South America.

What's rediculous is your bleeding heart. The world is hard. Get used to it.

I am a realist. If others are going to profit from desperate times, I am figuring out ways to get my piece. That's called being smart.

If you can not read and understand some sarcasm from time to time then you need to seek help. People who think everything is a "cause" to get behind, or a "movement" or an injustice that needs fighting need to wake up to how F'd up the "woke" culture is. Life is survival of the fittest.

Yes. Protecting my family in the USA if I have to is again smart. In necessary though, I am completely willing to do what I have to.

amiga500
13 Feb 2022  #764

I am all for a small war in Ukraine.

No war is ever small, or short. Your off your rocker PolamKrakow

Lenka
13 Feb 2022  #765

That's called being smart.

It's called being rurhless or sc*m depending on a degree

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #766

just killed when they are of no use. Often their homes burned out or blown up.

Now you are bending reality and facts to suit your sick agenda.

What's rediculous is your bleeding heart. The world is hard.

Do we need to make it even harder with such sick attitude? No.

I am a realist.

No, realists accept the necessity of the war but do not dream about it like you.

I wonder if you will also gladly display your warmongering in the presence of your Ukrainian acquiantances who have just arrived. I highly doubt it. :):)

You should also be wary with those sick views among your Polish acquaintances or business partners. They might view you either a stupid ignorant Americano or even worse, warmongering scum. Or crazy, at best.

Why? The Polish nations as well as other nations of Eastern Europe suffered a lot during the last war, there are still many people here who lived through its horrors. Anybody who looks forward to war in this region of Europe is a warmongering idiot or an utter svoloch who promotes death and destruction coz he/.she can gain profit from it. .

Your compatriot, Jules Bryan, stayed in Poland during 1939 campaign and took photos which became icons of what war is.
Look at these photos, this is war you are dreaming about. Believe me, if you want to pass for scum and svoloch, stick to your views further on.


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PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #767

@amiga500
LMAO coming from you this is hilarious. A war in Ukraine would be short, very short. Casualties would be very high on a daily basis both ways. Neither side would keep fighting for long. I doubt any of you commenting have even been to Ukraine. Have you walked the streets of Donbass or Kiev?

@Lenka
Yes. Ruthless is what it takes to get ahead in life. Complacency is what kills people, governments and society. Think the American Revolution was not ruthless? The Cold War was not ruthless? Ukraine needs to fight, and they need to show the Russians they are not simply Russians in another former Soviet Republic. Diplomacy only works when both sides want it to work. In this case it looks like neither side really wants diplomacy to work. The only way this war doesn't happen is if citizens force their governments to not let it happen.

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #768

It's called being rurhless or sc*m depending on a degree

Utterly sick views. I already told him to keep it a secret from other Poles he meets in real life.

Ruthless is what it takes to get ahead in life.

You have watched too many films about Terminator and similar, I am afraid.

The only way this war doesn't happen is

Decent realist people are scared of war. Only crazies, morons or scum dream of it., especially when they can escape to a safe heaven.

Neither side would keep fighting for long.

Are you a prophet who can see future events???

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #769

@pawian
You really must be the dumbest person on this board. You can not detect sarcasm. Who said anyone dreamed of war? No one that I can see.

You are one of the "woke cultural revolutionists" who think your opinion is what matters most. You think your limited education allows you to form opinions about real life situations. Read more books, bring back more dead topics, and preach to those who want to listen.

War is a fact of life. Since the dawn of time to the end of time there will be wars of one type or another. Get over it. Bending reality and facts to fit your agenda is your daily habit here. When anyone's opinion is different than yours, you want to act like Jesus Christ himself has empowered you to tell everyone what the correct way should be and how everyone is wrong.

Have you ever walked the streets of Donbass or Kiev? I have. Do you have any first hand information from people you actually know in Ukraine, or are you continuing to form your opinions from the woke media?

You throw judgement down on people all the time who have different opinions. Who are you to judge anything? People have every right to think any way they want. If you think that diplomacy can work, then spell out a real argument and not some of this "evil" and statements. If you cant intelligently tell everyone how, not why, but how diplomacy can work then you may come across as something more than a know it all. IF you can not intelligently explain how, not why, diplomacy can work, then war is likely happening, and it is likely needed to get one side or another in complete control.

amiga500
13 Feb 2022  #770

You have watched too many films about Terminator and similar, I am afraid.

More like Scarface and Bad Lieutenant youtube.com/watch?v=TdKD9rMqwqI
Jakiƛ pierdolony amerykanczyk

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #771

Who said anyone dreamed of war? No one that I can see.

You implied it, quite clearly, with these words: I am all for a small war in Ukraine. Love the prospects of what it will do for my Boeing stock.

allows you to form opinions

I can`t help forming a negative opinion when I read scum`s opinion. It comes so naturally.

Who are you to judge anything?

I am a decent person who realizes all horrors of war. Your promotion of it can be and is judged negatively and your moaning now is senseless - you brought it all on yourself by yourself.

People have every right to think any way they want.

Yes, of course. And decent people have the right to call such thinking what it really is: ignoble scum thinking. Isn`t it obvious?

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #772

@pawian
And I have every right to be sarcastic along with the right to call you out for your incredible depth of opinionated stupidity. Really, reading what you write most days is like reading text from a genetic mixed cloning of Hilary Clinton and Oprah Winfrey.

I did not imply anything. I said I love the prospects of what it will do for my Boeing stock. There is no dream, there is no implication, there is a statement of fact concerning a stock, and nothing more. Of course you probably think I went out and bought the Boeing stock as soon as Russia started surrounding Ukraine so I could profit from it, when In fact I have had the stock for 30 years. Or was that not implied? Get over yourself.

The beauty of life is that I don't GAF about what your opinion of me is. You think you have a right to express your little feelings, so I expressed mine of you. Your opinion of decency is distorted. Decency is when it comes to the topic of war has no place in the discussion. If it did, Putin must not have gotten that memo.

Alien
13 Feb 2022  #773

@pawian
Are you suggesting that PolAm should change his nick to PolCham?...

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #774

I said I love the prospects of what it will do for my Boeing stock

And it was enough for me to consider it sick.

stupidity

OK, stick to your sick opinions while I stick to humane decency. Simple.

The beauty of life is that I don't GAF about what your opinion of me is.

Today. But after our exchange you will know what decent people in Poland think about your sickening views on war and you will remember our negative attitude. And one day you might reflect on the matter and change your mind and become more humane.

You think you have a right to express your little feelings,

Yes, I do!! Don`t you??? :):):)

mafketis
13 Feb 2022  #775

I love the prospects of what it will do for my Boeing stock

What's the formula? How many dead Ukrainians mean how much profit for you?

Vincent
13 Feb 2022  #776

To all members posting in this thread, a polite reminder, please focus on the title of the thread, rather than focusing on other members.

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #777

Polish government hasn`t issued any call for Polish citizens to leave Ukraine, just like it is happening in case of other countries and their citizens. I wonder if it is a deliberate action or just negligence.

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #778

@mafketis
No the formula is how the US will spend more on flight technology because they will be selling more planes to other countries. Boeing doesn't manufacture arms. Now if I said I was excited for what a war can do for hand grenade manufacturing you could infer that I would be looking forward to deaths. Flight technology is not only military but civilian. Or maybe Poland shouldn't be buying planes from the US?

@pawian
Again, you have no idea what my views on war are. You make opinions up based on things that are never said. Your imagination knows no bounds. That's great for a child. Not for every day life.

What would the "decent" people in Poland think about me taking my profits from Boeing or other stocks, military or otherwise, and investing in Poland? What would they think of me being willing to pick up arms against the Russians? How about you? There is no place for pacifists in the face of Russian aggression. But by all means, ship all of the dream catchers, rainbow mugs, and fly swatters you can to Ukraine with all those helmets from Germany.

pawian
13 Feb 2022  #779

You make opinions

Darling, in post 776 Vincent reminded us to stop focusing on other members. Try to comply. I already did. :):)

Novichok
13 Feb 2022  #780

Bottom line: Russia taking back what used to be the USSR is none of the US business. In fact, Biden already said so by sending the US troops to Poland and Romania - a symbolic and totally meaningless show of nothing. He even gave Putin the green light by saying that the US will not fight Russia in Ukraine. Wise man.

If Poland and other Euros object to what Putin is doing, God gave you free will, money, and the nukes. Knock yourself out. Bye...


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