Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Unconfirmed reports Russia is preparing for mobilization (ie declare war) which will probably not end well for anyone, especially Russia....

twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1515022298931150853

This was on the Ukrainian news at lunchtime and I asked an army officer what this specifically meant. He said it's about conscription mostly. Whether it's related to a big 'push, or whether Putler's accepted that this is going to last for a long time is another question.


Mine too. It's not a stupid hope, just an optimistic one. Unfortunately we've seen that there's not much scope for optimism about russian behaviour here. I've heard other intercepted recordings saying with people saying similar things.


Humanity has a very dark side. We're one of the nastiest species of mammal unfortunately and do things that a dog wouldn't.

Not so much for Russia as for its new conscripts. More fodder for Ukrainians.......


The latest kit from Revel and Putin setting on an expedition to check out how the Moscow cruiser is faring as a submarine. hahahaha

If they declared war wouldn't that give Ukraine carte blanche to attack targets in Russia ?

Are you sure>? wouldn't that be paying for German weapons from German coffers? Still it will benefit Ukrainie and German factories.


he a toxic man,


Are you suprised? Those who managed to swim to the shore are alive.

Legally yes. It also means russia has even less grounds to try to play the victim when Ukraine hits a target over the border. I also gather there's specific relevance to the Geneva Convention, however the army guy I asked downplayed that and said that in his opinion it's more about conscription.

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that true.

The thread I linked to suggests that mobilization would strain the contradicitons of Putin's Russia to the breaking point...

Good mini-thread on Russia's information war (and it's real goals)

twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1515047034704773131

money quote (edited for comprehension) "the goal of information warfare is to destroy the "enemy", but destroy mentally, psychologically, the minds of Russian citizens but also citizens of the "enemy" itself."

Pathetic loser Russians now telling the US not to supply weapons - LOL, this is only the beginning. The Russian rapists are still stuck in the mud trying to fire up those commie 2 stroke engines, sitting ducks.

Time to arm Moldova, Georgia and expel the rapists from there too.

Russia is only a pathetic shell of its perceived reputation. The curtain has been pulled back to reveal all the problems with Russian society are amplified in the Russian military. Greed, theft, and incompetence at every level.

The military is simply a mirror of every view of Russian life. This is true in nearly every nation. The US is a professional country for the most part, though we have our rednecks and idiots too, most of the country is educated, organized, hard working, and professional in their own capacity.

The idea that Russia is upset with the rest of the world for helping Ukraine is simply hilarious. Any moron could have predicted the assistance would happen, and would have been prepared for that if they had planned well. But Russia did not expect an aggressive response. "Prepare for the worst, expect the best" is a simple phrase that comes to mind. Putin is incapable, and his military is really a joke.

Where have all the Putin @$$ lickers gone the last few days? Realizing your hero is not really a hero? Realizing you will be on the wrong side of history? It must be difficult to admit that if you were in Russia, you would be nothing more than meat just like everyone else. Hamburger. Happy gulag biatches.

The German government has said it plans to release more than one billion euros in military aid for Ukraine.

What can they do? Unless Putard wants to launch nukes? He can't do f*uck all to anyone else.
Yes, R*ussia could ban sales of vodka and hot Russian brides to US, but that would be an inconvenience at best.

Putin's nuclear arsenal is not the only nuclear threat to Europe.
The Pridniprovskiy Chemical Plant once produced half the yellowcake uranium used in the Soviet Union's nuclear arsenal.
Mostly abandoned, the site contains 40 million tons of radioactive waste, 15 times more than what remains in Chernobyl.
The concern here is that, (with Putin's help) a large quantity of waste could spill into the Dnipro waterway and down into the Black Sea putting the entire European continent at risk.

He knows he knows how that would end.

All scenarios involving even a 'tactical¡ nuke have been "gamed" by all three nuclear powers in NATO, many times over both individually and separately. Every option has been analysed and the decision trees have outcomes that are almost all negative.

Let us dance and sing anti-war songs. Who knows, world leaders maybe find some mercy in their greedy hearts for this stupid and poor humanity.

@johnny reb
This would also decimate his desired coastal conquests in Ukraine. While I don't see it happening now, if Crimea becomes in doubt, he may just blow it all on his way out. That however also ensures his death sentence from the world. Putin has to be looking for a way out now where he can save face. A massive strike in Donbass is on the way, and if not successful, what are his options? If they don't take those area's by May 9th, things in Russia will deteriorate quickly.

To drop some nuke? To blow some nuclear plant? USA did it against Japan. NATO used depleted uranium against Serbs.


Who care. Non in the world likes methods of USA world policeman and so what.

After all what death sentence to largest nuclear power in the world? Did you lost your sanity man?

OUR only hope, of all of us here and in the world is that Russia (and USA and China) is satisfied and have at least minimum of its interests respected. Who tell you different he is madman.

He could go to space warfare and take out some critical satellites to start with.
Then hack our computer systems, then....
Kyiv was struck early this morning in the Darnytskyi district in the eastern part of the capital where there were explosions.
Thick smoke rising from the site could be seen.

@Crow
No one is afraid any more. That's it. No one. The threats mean nothing. No one is afraid of Russia any more. Nukes will bring more nukes. Even Russians don't want that. Make your self a goal to be not the dumbest person here, you are slowly rising compared to Novi, and others. Maybe start using your brain and not your heart when thinking of what Russia will soon be.

@johnny reb
The US could do the same. I don't think its a fear. With the US, and Elon Musk SpaceX, satellites would be back in space in weeks. Russia could not accomplish that.

All the events you mention took place about 75 years ago - that's three generations. To claim that modern Germany, a country built by children and grandchildren of people responsible for nazi atrocities, has no reputation because of the deeds of their ancestors is nothing short of ridiculous. Especially that those children and grandchildren have vehemently rejected the nazi past of their country. Also, it would be difficult to overlook the contribution Germany has made after WW2 to build peace and stability in Europe.

As a Pole, I can only repeat what I've already said here in #8,338...

If there is one country that tried to honestly deal with its past and underwent a huge change in a relatively short period of time, it's Germany. We will never forget, but at some point one has to separate historical memory from the current perception and attitude towards the Germans, and three generations seem to be enough time for us to adopt this approach.


Exactly. They are doing their bit and are being quiet about it. Cut them some slack, people.

I couldn't imagine the world without their cell phones and internet access for weeks not to mention our power grids, banking and sewage plants.

Oh noes! How dare the West not pressuring Ukraine to surrender and spread wide her asscheeks! We conveniently forget that it's war that Russia started and Ukraine fights for her survival.

Well, here's newsflash: The war will end sooner if Russia GTFO of Ukraine.

The accusation that the west is evil for supporting Ukraine's defense, when Putin is free to widthdraw his forces at literally any time, but actively decides to still go on to maximize russian soldier deaths and ukranian soldiers and civilian deaths, is delusional on a whole new level.

If Russia stops the vodka exports Poland will do our part to defend the West. We've making lots of quality high percentage alcohol.

Can't do anything about the lack of Russian thots, though, our women in general are more virtuous.

Polish vodka is of course better.


Our own cyber defence and hackers may well be better than theirs.


Roughly what they send to russia in a day and a half for gas. Meanwhile half their population don't support helping Ukraine and their media is playing the victim, as bullies do.

"The flagship just had a minor accident, Ukranians had nothing to do with it, the ship's being repaired as we speak and everyone's safe anyway"

"We must exact our revenge from Ukranians for the sinking of our precious ship and bomb everything!"

And Russia is now apparently even contemplating to - get this - start a war against Ukraine!

Once again, it took the whole of one day for Russian spin doctors to cover themselves in ridicule.

It's hilarious really watching this being said in one breath.
"Nobody attacked us, there was a fire... but Ukraine will pay for this."

@jon357
bringing up auschwitz and treblinka, is like my South Sudanese mates who support russia, and bring up Iraq and Syria and nato crimes, ie whataboutism and pointless. as i tell them and i tell u, the past is the past and today is today.

Russian political discourse (especially internationally) exists at a painfully infantile level, panic-based lie after lie and absolute determination to avoid any responsibility for anything while screaming about how great he is....

@johnny reb
90% of world mainframe for internet is hard wired cross oceans. Huge fiber optic cables for this. Russia could only take out a small percentage of internet and phones. It would effect cable TV more than anything.

Of course. Sham diplomacy.


It can never be ignored and gives an insight into the me me me attitude there right now.

The undersea cables have long been a vulnerability the uk and us have warned about.

the same thing could be said about the concentration camps for the boers, i would argue that the excessive war guilt and the constant hammering into german children about how evil they were/are, led to their idiotic pacifism, disrespect and dismantling of their army, and appeasement of russia over the last 20 years. of course the trillions of deutchmarks in profit helped the victory of idiotic idealism over reality , born of an excessive guilt. the past is the past , today is today.