Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Somehow doesn't feel like it.....where are our rewards?

judging by those two chicks videos I feel these sanctions are doing a worse job against poland and polish inflation and prices than in russia guys. or am I the only one here thinking dis?

Germany is following the Russian model... those at the top (like Schroeder) reap the rewards and the serfs (or Leibeigenen if you prefer) put up with the inconvenience and keep your mouths shut.

This raises the question.... Wer wurde überhaupt durch diesen Handel gewandelt?

The SPD mainly, I come to believe....

(I applaud your german! That was quite difficult grammar:)

The sanctions have barely kicked in yet; their effects are yet to be felt the, and of course the sanctions will only increase and increase.


Nobody would let you since germany is no longer a major power.

Weird that a thread about Poland and Russia is slowly being turned to one about another country, one that President Zelenskiy has spoken about well.

As if you need to be a major power....or need someone to "let" you....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

You just hate Germany.....I didn't post for a few days and it was you who couldn't stop mentioning Germany in this thread and another...like an obsessed!

You keep mentioning germany. We are talking about Poland's aid in connection to Russia's war against Ukraine.

I'm answering to your insults....and it isn't as if Germany is already that much "marginalised" that Poland and Russia or Ukraine could do without us...for the good or bad! *shrugs*

THEY can't stop mentioning us!

The truth. That country is famous for the Shoah, Auschwitz-Birkenau, the einsatzgruppen and the Dirlewanger brigades. And now they're funding russian atrocities, sitting back and watching, wondering how they can make money out of it.

Anyway, enough about that place; the important thing is getting russia out of Ukraine and stopping all russian gas and oil exports.

Nah....let it coming....Russia looks more and more likeable! :)

Who wants to be allied with you?

guys i have to say it but in some ways theyre right about nato:

youtu.be/JQDOfXV0DZM

what sort of defensive allegiance invades countries like serbia or iraq?

A bit of good news, actually related to Ukraine and russia directly.

Ukraine has destroyed roughly 70% of APCs & tanks from russia's invasion force, as well as 25% of their artillery and 11% of boats.

Plus over 20,000 trained killers killed or injured, around 15% and rising.

twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1516788119122624516


Ukraine and Poland...

Looks like the EU will soon be history....

@mafketis
Probably about time too. It was a great ideal, however not all players had good intentions (just try winning a tender in France...).

You just didn't insult them enough yet....


We should rebuild the Hanse....since Germany funds most of the EU anyhow....so.... :)

That had been "golden times" back then!

" You keep mentioning germany. We are talking about Poland's aid in connection to Russia's war against Ukraine."

do you think if they werent in nato today and cant today theyd be doing what syria is doing and sending manpower to ukrwine wnd doing killings alongside russia and putin?

If those Leopard's are "useless" then how sending them to Ukraine would "compromise the rest of Germany's armed forces"? Germany won't get invaded in a foreseeable future. Ukraine has been invaded and is fighting for dear life. This is the priority in Europe right now - Ukraine defeating Russia. A defeated Russia can't attack NATO, at least for some time. Logical, right?

This war won't last for a few days or a few weeks, so Germany could already start fixing those Leopards, so they would be ready for sending to Ukraine later. Ukrainians may need them later even more than they need them now.

Also, if those old Leopards are so needed by the German army why aren't they being maintained? Why are they being left "useless"? Sorry, but I sense bullsh1t on the side of Germany's government here.


Wow, BB... Are you serious? Why don't you make a pact with the devil while you're at it?


And do you know why that happened? I'm guessing that you don't, so I'll explain. Germany back then asked other EU countries, including Poland, to show "solidarity". But when Poland earlier asked Germany for solidarity in case of Nord Stream, Germany gave us the middle finger, while getting cosy with Putin's Russia at the same time. You can imagine it didn't look good from the Polish perspective. So, Polish disillusionment with Germany and the EU didn't start with the EU's delayed and lukewarm reaction to the annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the migrant crisis of 2015. Those two were simply the last drops that made the cup run over. It was no accident that the Eurosceptic PiS came into power in 2015.

I'm not an Eurosceptic, Germanophobic right-winger. I'm saying all of this as a pro-EU centrist, because, as many other Poles, I think, I got disillusioned too...

...we could send helmets!


It doesn't seem to make any difference....you know what Jon said, once a Nazi always a Nazi.....a new Lidice/Auschwitz is only a matter of time....so why bother!

I think many of us are saying that now.

Really there are only three major (in terms of GDP and population) states who are standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine. Those are Poland, the U.K. and the U.S.

I was reading about this guy, famous for pulling his own fingers off. He has a solid connection with Poland, U.K. and Ukraine. If his name was easier to pronounce in Polish, there would be a street named after him in every city (Thatcher has the same problem). We need more of his kind now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart

He's way out of line. I certainly criticize German policy on lots of things (cause it's been wrong so often after 20008) but I do so from a sense of tough love.

Russia is an agent of destruction - it wants to destroy Ukraine and Germany's failed Russia policies now threaten the foundation of a peaceful relatively prosperous Europe.

Why aren't people protesting this vile party that's doing so much damage to Germany's reputation?

We just had elections a few months back.....new elections are hard to do so soon! Scholz became Chancellor in December last year, that's not even half a year.

Scholz and Co. are losing support in the population by the day....all polls and surveys show that....still....new elections won't happen so close to the last one.

"He's way out of line. I certainly criticize German policy on lots of things (cause it's been wrong so often after 20008) but I do so from a sense of tough love."

no more out of line than polaks hammering about bandera and up and how much they hate Ukrainians for something a small group of them did to their countrymen three generations ago. polaks living in the psst bro. if you speak the polak language go to irish pub on miodowa street in Warsaw and hang out there on friday afternoon till night or the pijalnia wodki on nowy swiat and make conversations with them and wait till they bring history up or the current war just mention the war thats all. or go on polish right wing or really any twitter and start following them in polish or see the comments on facebook the news pages on Ukraine.

I refer again to your bare faced lie from yesterday - and once again I ask you, why did you tell such a stupid lie? Today, the 36th Marine brigade is still holding on, still defying the Russian ultimatum. Why did you tell that lie? Are you so stupid that you don't even know why??

the guy sitting down drunk with weird cossack style hair on bottom left toward the end is there every friday basically and some saturdays tell him or have a conversation with him about ukrainians if you fink jon is out of line wait until this guy talks to you:

mega.nz/file/V44SBQJD#1rKu-kfTy8bkLh6xnAAWrCfowMJOWtCjsBs0zAWdWdo

It should make a difference to you. Germany and Germans should be helping Ukraine and Ukrainians because it's the right thing to do and not to get applause, praise or a pat on the back. Do you think that all those Polish volunteers who rushed to the border to help Ukrainian refugees did that for a round of applause? Do you think that all those Poles who took Ukrainian families to their own homes did that so they would be praised for that? No, it was a knee-jerk, humane, natural reaction.


Who cares what some Germanophobe on some niche forum says? You're going to turn evil because of that? *facepalm* Also, Poles on this forum were defending Germany against jon357's attack. People from a country most affected by Nazi atrocities. Did you even notice that? Or it doesn't matter to you what some Poles think?


Because, as I already wrote, it's the right thing to do. Even if people are angry right now at Germany for it's ties with Putin's Russia. They have a good reason to be angry. So, clench your teeth, do the right thing and with time people will see your efforts to amend the wrongs and will appreciate it. Karma goes back.

but youre just as bad as any germanphobe in terms of your russophobia tho. even this russian cougar in a bar in malta told me polish men are russophobes. i recently saw suvorov or suworov mentioned again as a great writer on a Polish Facebook page about world war two lol the author only nazis in the west actually read besides poloks. nobody takes that guy or his farfetched claims seriously in the usa in fact i dont even think i saw his book in a single barnes and noble or borders there yet hes constantly praised in Poland and available in empiks. here is someone debunking this super popular writer in Poland:

youtu.be/TyANHGWbUHA

@Strzelec35
Have you come across a guy called Graham Phillips. He's the YouTuber who 'interviewed' the Ukrainian soldier that was caught by the orcs. He's potentially facing a war crimes trial if he ever leaves Russia.

And some news, Putler has done an ICBM test, which is clearly an implicit threat to any country supporting Ukraine. Sadly (though Crow will probably like it), the missile is called Sarmat.

reuters.com/world/europe/russia-tests-new-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-2022-04-20/

graham philips sounds fimiliar.

A modern day Lord Haw Haw or Tokyo Rose.

There seem to be quite a few people making money from shilling for russia right now.

i actually think viktor suworov is entertaining or a good read particularly how he writes about the gru and spesnaz but i dont see how anyone could take the guy seriously especially as a historian. i mean sure he may be telling some truth but it csnt be more than 50 percent and 50 percent him making things up to sell books. i read one of his books i had to find in some library in the USA on why the west should have feared a war with russia. something about how the soviet elchon troops would operate in layers from Warsaw pact countries.