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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



PolAmKrakow
26 Jun 2022  #5701

@Velund
Whats more special is more than 35000 dead Orcs and close to 70000 wounded Orcs. So many out of combat that retired military from Russia now being forced back into service. Such a pity. Now both young and old will die. Happy gulag biatches!

Crnogorac3
26 Jun 2022  #5702

@Polam

Have you skipped therapy?

youtu.be/82QhIOgJy1c

Or are you pulling the white stuff

Miloslaw
26 Jun 2022  #5703

Russians are not Mongols. They are Slavs as much other Slavs are Slavs

The evidence from this war in Ukraine proves you are wrong Crow.
Slavs would not treat other Slavs with the total barbarity that Russians have used against Ukrainians.
Only Mongols would do that.
Russians are the new Mongol horde and you cannot deny that.
Your dream of Slavonic Russians "Liberating Europe" is just that,
A dream.
This is Mongol hordes destroying. burning,looting and raping Europe just as their predecessors did.
Nothing but barbarians.

. Dead ukrainians was carefully packed in bags and stored in refrigerators nearby, so this was something special

And here is one of your "Russian friends" proving that he has no Slav characteristics, just Mongol barbarism.

Crow, you cannot defend this without losing what little credibility you have left on this forum.

jon357
26 Jun 2022  #5704

No, I still not seen ANYTHING comprometing

it don't doesn't matter what footage you have or haven't seen.

Stop trying to lie.

Conclusions from MSM is not accepted

Like r*ssia Today or Perviy Kanal.

PolAmKrakow
26 Jun 2022  #5705

@Crnogorac3
Have you gotten out of your mommies basement lately? There is whole new world to discover outside of play station and taco bell.

Crnogorac3
26 Jun 2022  #5706

Free Russian beaches. You sunbathe a little, swim a little, watch military helicopters a little. Pleasure & enjoyment.

t.me/intelslava/31988

pawian
26 Jun 2022  #5707

Why did former Canadian citizen Cyril Petkov fly out from the post of prime minister,

Darling, you are really missing one hemisphere in the head, as Polam would say. hahahaha I was talking about Bulgarian national voting to become a member of NATO and EU and you are talking nonsense about some Prime Minister.

See the difference? Bulgarians want to be in NATO coz they consider RuSSia a barbaric threat.

PS Besides, Petkov still is the PM of Bulgaria. So you are again lying. Or you were fooled by Kremlin propaganda. Amasing.

Miloslaw
26 Jun 2022  #5708

See the difference? Bulgarians want to be in NATO

Bulgaria is not only in the EU but has been a member of NATO since 2004.

Crnogorac3
26 Jun 2022  #5709

An interesting conversation between a based Bulgarian truck driver and a Ukrainian.

srbin.info/en/svet/hit-video-obracun-bugarskog-i-ukrajinskog-kamiondzije-bugarska-je-za-putina/

youtu.be/K58ftxtEASU

Bulgarian support for Russia

youtu.be/vXY_peWwGs4

In Bulgaria it was echoing "NATO go home" support for brotherly Russia

Velund
26 Jun 2022  #5710

Besides, Petkov still is the PM of Bulgaria. So you are again lying.

On June 22, 2022, the Bulgarian parliament passed a vote of no confidence in the Petkov government. The vote of no confidence was passed by 123 deputies, 116 deputies voted against it, and no one abstained.

Crnogorac3
26 Jun 2022  #5711

youtu.be/la3JgpEEjXM

🇮🇳🇷🇺 *Gathering in support of Russia in India*

Indians on the side of truth & justice.

pawian
26 Jun 2022  #5712

passed a vote of no confidence

That is amaSSing you don`t know what it means. But you are from RuSSia where such measures don`t exist. hahaha
Whatever. The conclusion stays the same - you were lying about Petkov coz he is still the PM. HA!!! I got you! hahahaha

In Bulgaria support for brotherly Russia

Just like in Serbia - a few hundred crazies out of a few million nation. Amasing. If I were you, I would be really embarassed to show such pathetic "support" by crazy nationalists. :):)

mafketis
26 Jun 2022  #5713

Difference between Ukraine and Russia....

Ukrainian soldiers took care of an injured dog until she could be taken to a vet clinic...

twitter.com/Lyla_lilas/status/1540661736491175936

Russian soldiers would have eaten her....

cms neuf
26 Jun 2022  #5714

Very harrowing stories in the NYT today about the forcible deportations. Russian soldiers giving women and kids the choice of being shot or deported.

Just like the choice they gave my grandparents

But this is 2022 and not 1939

Who unleashed these scum on Europe ?

If you participated in any way - if you were one of these troops, if you were mending their radios or driving the bus, if you were cooking dinner for the war criminals, if you were sitting in an office making lists then you will be in the Hague one day. Either that or spend the rest of your life in Russia.

pawian
26 Jun 2022  #5715

If you participated in any way

77 years after WW2 started by Germans they are still viewed with suspicion and detestation by some.
The same is going to happen to Russians - they will be pointed to as murderers, rapists and looters for the next decades. Films about their crimes will be made and will win major awards at festivals, just like films about Holocaust or other WW2 occupation horrors.

RuSSists, are you aware that is going to tarnish the image of your barbaric country for a few generations?

cms neuf
26 Jun 2022  #5716

Also see the citizens of Mariupol are collecting water from puddles to drink and cook with. In 2022.

But on a lighter note this is a great story - 150 kilo 67 year old Russian general has been sent to the front after the latest round of sackings.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10954233/Beast-East-Panicking-Putin-calls-OBESE-20st-retired-general-lead-forces-Ukraine.html

mafketis
27 Jun 2022  #5717

I know not everyone is convinced about the... authenticity of the FSB/Wind of change letters but they've been fairly accurate (as well as interesting)

The latest is concerning....

short version: Russia knows it can't win in Ukraine (the most optimistic scenario of 'victory' is still a disaster) but can't back down because... Russia....

Now they want to provoke a larger conflict and naive westerners calling for 'peace' make them more likely to escalate. Their 'logic' is the rest of the world isn't as crazy as they are so if they're belligerent enough the rest of the world will back down and that will be their 'victory'....

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1541219291780882432

amiga500
27 Jun 2022  #5718

this guy is an russian opposition politician (prob in exile) and he briliantly breaks down the four things putin has achieved thanks to his invasion of ukraine. Pertinent and amusing in the total disaster it has become . first chapter: putin turned zelensky from an upopular joke politician into a worldwide superstar ..

I'm sure our russian posters will appreciate it :)

youtube.com/watch?v=KZyu08lEt9E

Kashub1410
27 Jun 2022  #5719

I am a bit concerned about non-western countries support of Putins belligerence. Especially India, surprised me a lot.

Poland will know that again if Russians try to invade, Poland cannot put any eggs in the basket with regard to international community.

Just like with partitions, post-ww1 and post-ww2.

Hard facts and strong alliances, military equipment and a stronger, efficient functioning state

GefreiterKania
27 Jun 2022  #5720

non-western countries support of Putins belligerence

Check out this article, originally published in "Die Welt"...

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/wiatr-zmienil-kierunek-putin-zyskuje-przyjaciol-rosnie-potezny-sojusz/q21e3yc,79cfc278

... it sums it up rather well. Russia is not as isolated as some people would like to think.

Tacitus
27 Jun 2022  #5721

Russia defaults on foreign debt for first time since 1998

google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/27/russia-defaults-on-foreign-debt-for-first-time-since-1917-revolution-reports

The investors will remember this.

PolAmKrakow
27 Jun 2022  #5722

For all you Russian POS who claim the economy is just awesome in Russia;

washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/27/russia-defaults-foreign-debt-ukraine-war/

Exceeding the 30 day grace period for payment, Russia has defaulted on their debt. 57 Billion dollars. In todays real ruble exchange rate that is 9,120 Billion rubles. Now the added benefit of all this is Russia's credit with foreign banks and other financial institutions will become less than junk level.

The formal way to declare default is if 25 per cent or more of bondholders say they didn't get their money. Once that happens, provisions say all Russia's other foreign bonds are also in default, and bondholders could then seek a court judgment to enforce payment.

In normal circumstances, investors and the defaulting government typically negotiate a settlement in which bondholders are given new bonds that are worth less but that at least give them some partial compensation. But sanctions bar dealings with Russia's finance ministry.

What will likely happen is that default will be declared by some court with todays interest rates applied to the judgement, yes the same very high interest rates everyone else is dealing with. Then Russia is in a whole pile of $hit trying to make interest payments alone which will compound for the duration of the war. Happy gulag biatches!

johnny reb
27 Jun 2022  #5723

Russia is in a whole pile of $hit trying to make interest payments

Makes for good reading, however, Russia has the money to pay but the sanctions are blocking the flow of it into the global system.
The Russian default Is less worrisome than It appears...... Keep Watching Oil.

jon357
27 Jun 2022  #5724

Then Russia is in a whole pile of $hit trying to make interest payments alone which will compound for the duration of the war

It's a disaster for them.

It will be interesting if they show up at G20 and if so, what transpires...

PolAmKrakow
27 Jun 2022  #5725

@johnny reb
An oil cap is also being worked on. While Russia does have the money, they have no access, and no access means no payment. No payment means a default judgement, and that means very high interest rates on the default. So, once Russia actually can access their money, beyond having to pay for Ukraine reconstruction, they will be over their heads in debt with compounding interest.

Oil, is only a short run solution. When countries buying have filled their reserves, there is no one else to sell too. This means production drops way off, and Opec will not allow themselves to become a victim of a collapsed market. Russia's voice in Opec will be muted, and production to the US and Europe will be boosted at lower costs. Yes, it takes time, but it is inevitable. China and India can only buy so much, and then what?

Long term thinking is what is needed. I bought oil futures in March, and its only up a little over 4%. This is not a huge oil market. If, and I believe it will, a recession happens in the US, you can look for prices to fall quickly. A recession in the US would actually hurt Russia more than the US, simply due to the dollar being the pricing currency for all oil transactions. Imagine it dropping to $80 a barrel in a week.

johnny reb
27 Jun 2022  #5726

I'll hide to watch and see if you are right.

pawian
27 Jun 2022  #5727

Breaking news!
RuSSist armoured vehicles have reached Warsaw!
They are deployed next the the Royal Castle, their traditional location during past partitions and occupations.
It is not a joke. You`d better hurry.

johnny reb
27 Jun 2022  #5728

RuSSist armoured vehicles have reached Warsaw!

Something is very fishy here and it stinks.
Why is it that one person can throw out insults by using the word RuSSet but when Novi posted: That was mean. Let's call them collaborators. Yeah, PoliSSh collaborators. he gets suspended ?

RuSSist armoured vehicles have reached Warsaw!

No joke ?
Wrecked Russian military vehicles to be exhibited in Warsaw: ...duh !

jon357
27 Jun 2022  #5729

RuSSist armoured vehicles have reached Warsaw!
They are deployed next the the Royal Castle

Worth seeing. A knackered tank. It serves as a warning of what r*ssia could do

GefreiterKania
27 Jun 2022  #5730

you`d better hurry to see it

Strange idea. War is not a circus. What's next? Cages with captured Russian soldiers?


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