Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

imagine a president of a central bank in the west got assassinated in this manner

@gumishu

His name was Andrey Kozlov, and he was the deputy governor of the CB. He was assassinated after issuing an ultimatum to Estonian financial regulators to shut down certain Estonian banks that facilitated the money laundering of tens of billions of dollars out of Russia by organized crime. Nearly a decade later it all surfaced anyway in the epic Danske Bank scandal, where we learned how Europe got fat laundering the billions of criminals from Russia. The man was a real hero. Nabiullina picked up where he had been working, and that's an incredible testament to her bravery.

Before she began her work there were literally thousands of banks in Russia, the overwhelming majority of which were involved in suspicious lending to shareholder affiliated entities and thus laundering money out of Russia.

This little Tatar lady has really been one of the blessings of Russia through the last ten years. She's introduced a custom at the policy meetings where she indicates the central bank mood through the choice of her brooches.

Please stick to the topic of the thread

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Iran and China are funding that proxy war. There is doubtless russian involvement too.


Nobody trusts russia or russians and if any doubt had started to creep in, their behaviour in Ukraine has dispelled this. More kidnappings of civilians from Mariupol today.


They aren't in any sense hard currency.

Weird that this thread has turned into long screeds by RuSSist apologists.

US says Russia has no right to complain abut it security concerns in regard to ukra nato bases. ukra is independent country ,they say.
how about Russia gifting some nukes to Assad?? or long range kalibrs?. NATO idiots dragging world into catastrophe. its like watching "idiocracy" movie life

They say Ukraine is an independent country because it is.

Go ahead and gift your piece of junk missiles to Syria - first you have to transport them over NATO territory. Even if they arrived then Israel would just destroy them in short order and in any case they probably don't work

Cuba was (and is) independent country also. But how sharply US reacted to just a few soviet missiles there...

Ukraine is even closer to Russia than Cuba to US, and even had (probably still have with limitations and extra checks) visa-free entry for ukrainians. So, de-facto NATO-controlled troops on this territory is on the edge of casus belli by itself. And increasing intensity of shelling of Donetsk in february was last straw... Now we have what we have, and you have to live with it, wish you or not. A number of offers for diplomatic solution and mutual security guarantees was before, all ignored. Now every next russian offer will be worse than previous one was.

For russia, yes. Given that they are losing.


Neither Cuba nor the US are parties to this war. All Putler has to do is accept that russia has lost. President Zelensky said today that there are diplomatic options open. All of them involve a russian admission of defeat/withdrawal of troops. It will be a bitter pill for them to swallow however they are already of course humiliated and it will take decades for them to recover, of at all.


He knows very well what the inevitable outcome of that would be.

A very good interview here from a few years ago. As part of the demilitarisation of russia there are some serious questions that they have to answer.

nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/alibek63.pdf

1. Ukraine is not a NATO member and Western leaders told Putin up until February that it would not be admitted as such.

2. There are no US nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe, let alone Ukraine.

3. The USA did not wage as a response a war against annihilation against Cuba.

Ok so you have your bogus casus belli and now what ? You are losing the war, mainly because of heavy drinking and corruption and are being beaten fair and square by a better prepared foe.

Now here in Poland we no longer accept militarized Kaliningrad on our borders, but thankfully we are in NATO so don't need to worry about it. I think that the poor souls who live there better get used to isolation however.

hahahahaha o god, why even bother talking to those guys.lol no wonder you guys swallow all BS zelensky thugs telling you.ghost off kiev ECT.

go back to primary school. have a look at maps.russia been supplying syria with all sort of stuff for years.no need to go through nato territory.

ahhh, forgot ,you right. ghost of kiev is blocking russia

fat lot of good that's done Syria...


Kaliningrad is a fake Soviet creation. EU stays out and the Russians there stay in. No need for them to set foot on Polish or Lithuanian soil. Let them swim to Russia if they want....

Er right - those are the years before Turkey closed its airspace and sea lanes. You could ask the Turks or Iranians if they will let you transport by land but they are very protective of their women and are not going to let any drunk rapists into the country.

Time to build an anti-fascist protection barrier around it to keep them in.


Like chemical weapons, smegy741...

And meanwhile, weapons are being unpacked to end the sea blockade and get the grain out.

@Velund
Now you go back to being retarded. NATO already said no to Ukraine. Ukraine has no nukes. And you want to compare this to Cuba? The US doesn't need nukes in Europe because there are plenty in the USA to turn Russia into glass like there are to turn US into glass. This is nothing more than Putin ego and eventually he will be dead. So when he is, who are you F's going to worship then? When Russia does open to the rest of the world economy again and the Ruble is 200 to 1 USD what will you do? Fing retards running the county and spouting off on PF.

you forgot Russia has submarines in the Black Sea (they all have sailed out of port recently as well)

I didn't. And most importantly nor have those whose role it is to monitor such things.

Once the blockade of the ports is cleared, the orcs would be very unwise to fire on merchant shipping from submarines, especially if that shipping is under the flag of a nation that would retaliate.

as far as I know they already have managed to sink a couple of third party vessels

also - let's say a US or a UK vessel is sunk - how do you imagine the retaliation for the act

There's going to be a film on "Ale Kino+" titled "The Monuments Men". It's based on the book "The Monuments Men: Allied Heroes, Nazi Thieves, and the Greatest Treasure Hunt in History". Which reminds me...

What is one of the differences between a liberating army and an invading army? What is the difference between heroes and scumbags?

Liberating armies don't loot. Invading armies do. And that's what Russian army is doing in Ukraine. And that's what the Soviet Army was doing in Poland. Did you know that the Soviets stole factories from Poland and transported them in pieces to the Soviet Union? WHOLE F*CKING FACTORIES!


Exactly.

In Anthony Beevor's book about the Fall of Berlin he listed the consignment on a train full of loot. This wasn't the factories they took, it was the personal plunder of their officers. Basically a whole train of furniture, watches, hunting rifles, carpets and even doors, window frames and roof tiles!

In Ukraine, it seems to be mostly fridges, tumble driers and dishwashers however they also go through people's wardrobes looking for nice clothes and also take kids' toys. Mobile phones are routinely taken.

Plus shooting cattle and taking grain and anything of use stored in a farm as well as emptying food shops. Like the Holodomor all over again.

Those RuSSists are true Mongols who also destroyed or robbed everything.

Based on Francis Fukuyama, the Russian government structure is based on the traditional Mongol predatory techniques. Russia never had democracy. Stalin applied same government principles as the Mongols. And Putin is a 21st century Mongol, nothing else.

Mariupol. Tattoo show...

youtube.com/watch?v=eGg07FpmcKc

Horrible. This can only be compared to tatoos of Dmitry Valerievich Utkin, decorated nazi Hero of the Russian Federation. Will they be joining Utkin's russian elite mercenary troops? Maybe they will receive Hero of Russian Federation medals too?

Where is PolAmKrakow, I have very important news article for him from nationalist Ukrainian website censor.net:

censor.net/ua/news/3342831/jodna_krayina_yevropy_ne_vporalasya_b_z_rosiyiskoyu_armiyeyu_zelenskyyi

Zelenskiy states during press conference that: "Not a single country in Europe could have managed to defend against a Russian invasion."

There's around 10 men maybe with actual (or related?) neo-Nazi tattoos. There are some photos taken in some appartment - I'm not counting them in, because I don't know who those men are and where and when those photos were taken.

So, is that it? Out of 1000 Azovstal defenders (as Russia claims) they've managed to find only a few men with neo-Nazi tattoos?

Why challenge him, the president's zhopa has spoken and he's rushing to kiss it...

Ivan Vyrypaev, a Russian playwright and a a leading figure in the Russian New Drama movement...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Vyrypaev

... who has been a staunch opponent of the fascist invasion of Ukraine from its very beginning, rejected his Russian citizenship and became the citizen of Poland:

dzieje.pl/kultura-i-sztuka/iwan-wyrypajew-zostal-obywatelem-rp

film.interia.pl/wiadomosci/news-iwan-wyrypajew-zrzekl-sie-rosyjskiego-obywatelstwa-zostalem-,nId,6040309

We welcome you, Ivan (or I should rather say - Jan), among us with open arms and warm heart. You chose humanity, justice and common decency over blind loyalty to your previous formal citizenship. Welcome, brother! :)

The United Nations and the International Committee of the Red Cross have directed Putin to remove his "mountain of corpses," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Saturday.

RuSS savages don`t care about their dead. They let them rot in Ukraine. It is really fascinating that RuSS soldiers go for becoming fertilizer so happily. True slaves of their Mongolian lords. Yuk.

Citizens of the Tsar's dvpa! (zhopa)