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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022  #631

"oh ,they are not real nazi,they dont hate jews,,its all good, oh they so liberal"

Maybe not liberal...but something else? Why does it have to be "Nazi" at all?

A real Nazi is about "Blut und Boden"....the german Nazis have forbidden for any Jew to join their party....for them a Jew could never be a real German "by blood"....

Why don't call your enemies something else but Nazi? Isn't that more about to make you feel better? For standing on the right side? After all it is now going against Nazis...right? No matter their arguments...or yours!

That is so transparent....and has nothing to do with real Nazis!

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #632

I would even agree that Russia has no clear need to attack Poland. But Putin wants a return of Soviet like states,

I am relieved. That means Poland is spending 14 billion bucks for nothing and is as safe or unsafe as Estonia which spends a small fraction of this amount.

Thanks for your answer.

johnny reb
30 Jul 2022  #633

When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, Putin announced that the injured army men could claim compensation of three million roubles, equivalent to about $50,000.
But as the war in Ukraine dragged on for over five months, the number of wounded soldiers mounted exponentially, and now some of them are finding that Putin's gesture is not as generous as it initially seemed.

The Russian cannon fodder are struggling for compensation because of the high number of wounded.

PolAmKrakow
30 Jul 2022  #634

@Novichok
Poland, given the history, has every reason to be paranoid. Spending this much shows that. Instead, I would be spending the money on army manpower and training. High military pay makes it attractive work, and we can see if there were a war, you need a lot of men because a lot will die. Russia can't be trusted, Putin wants what he wants, and overspending is the result.

Crnogorac3
30 Jul 2022  #635

Complete anarchy. Someone gives away the coordinates of camps, weapons storage facilities and soldiers, but they don't know who is doing it. A recipe for catastrophic paranoia.

t.me/rosich_rus/16570

😄

t.me/DonbassDevushka/16481

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #636

@PolAmKrakow

Less die when the military has proper equipment.

mafketis
30 Jul 2022  #637

Why does it have to be "Nazi" at all?

Galeev once explained this, for the russian government anyone who opposes them is a nazi, while people that you or I would call nazis aren't necessary nazis to the russian government....

Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022  #638

....it's a shame actually!

PolAmKrakow
30 Jul 2022  #639

@Veles
I agree. But you need men to operate the equipment and Poland needs more men.

twitter.com/Zbiesu/status/1552934190542471168

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #640

@PolAmKrakow

Yes, but proper equipment is the priority. Then the military will require less personnel, as the people who will operate more developed weapons will be able to cause more damage.

@mafketis

People who keep crying about Nazis everywhere in year 2022 are not different from the boy who cried wolf.

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #641

Yes, but proper equipment is the priority.

Actually, not. We, the US, had superior equipment in every major war after 1945 and lost all of them. Lost (def.) - not achieving the war objectives. See Afghanistan.

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #642

@Novichok

The US also has numbers, didn't help much with the Talibans.

Besides, the main goal of the Americans was to find and kill Bin Laden - that goal was accomplished. The other aspect was discouraging the Talibans from aiding Al Qaeda, as far as I know that was accomplished too.

cms neuf
30 Jul 2022  #643

Why are you obsessed with US wars ?

This war is between Ukraine (winning) versus the drunk rapists and thieves of Russia (losing)

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #644

How do you understand winning and losing in context of this particular war?

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #645

Nobody is obsessing. This is a conversation.

cms neuf
30 Jul 2022  #646

If you want conversation maybe you should stick to discussing the rocketing price of potatoes with Kostya the Shoemender and Vanya the Horse Breaker. Because you never say anything interesting or useful here

Przelotnyptak1
30 Jul 2022  #647

US, had superior equipment in every major war after 1945 and lost all of them.

Oh yeah, Like in Iraq against Russia's best, which was no contest; in two weeks, the war was won, then political arse holes interfered. The rest is history.

Vietnam was no different. Just remove your blinders and asses Russian mostly stolen technology against American technological superiority. The proof is on the battlefields. What is needed is a little patriotism and objectivity. Military and politicians are two different animals.

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #648

the war was won

Yes, it is amaSSing that Novi forgot about that one.

major war after 1945 and lost all of them.

BS. The USA won the Cold War with Soviet RuSSists, also with the help of better equipment, even if it existed only on paper but RuSSists were so scared of it they decided to give up. Ha!

Those RuSSists are real savages. Their embassy in London suggested on Twitter that Azov defenders should be hanged. Fekking Mongolian hordes are invading Europe, with their scum criminal soldiers and diplomats.

Cojestdocholery
30 Jul 2022  #649

If Russia were to offer Poland Królewiec and a part of Belarus rather than Lwów - that could be a real offer.

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #650

In exchange for what? What would Poland give Russia?

Alien
30 Jul 2022  #651

Blessing...?

mafketis
30 Jul 2022  #652

Evidence that it was not Ukraine, but russia after all, that bombed the POW facility in Olevnika....

the damage corresponds that made by russian thermobaric weapons and not HIMARS, there is not crater from a missle strike or explosive damage

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1553467111791624193

It won't convince the putin fluffers but it fits the russian MO, deny everything blame others and then later kind of admit it and then brag about it (see attacks on Odesa port).

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #653

How do you understand winning and losing

Very simple. Ukraine is winning coz RuSSists still haven`t installed their puppet gov in Kyiv which was their initial plan and remains top priority to Putlers also today.

Crow
30 Jul 2022  #654

If Russia were to offer Poland Królewiec and a part of Belarus rather than Lwów - that could be a real offer.

After deep contemplation I concluded that Europe belong to Russia, Poland and Serbia.

Miloslaw
30 Jul 2022  #655

Very simple. Ukraine is winning

I wouldn't go quite that far.
But it is obvious to all that Russia is not winning this war and that if they can't advance any further, there is a real chance that Ukraine will humiliate them for generations.....

gregy741
30 Jul 2022  #656

It won't convince the putin

no it wont. infonapalm iss extremely pro ukra ,you might as well quote denisova twitt as a "undeniable evidence" of Russian involvement.
no longer than 24 hours ago SBU claimed that bomb planted inside and that they have 100 % evidence of this. today 100% evidence of thermobaric bomb.they should just ,make their fkin mind,and coordinate their lies. just another ukra BS ,

and just from your link, " they cannot independently assess the nature of the attack or the party responsible "
and all this story comes originally from thomas thainer

twitter.com/noclador/status/1553346547739410432

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #657

infonapalm iss extremely pro ukra

That's because most claims coming from Russia and its African accounts are far beyond ridicilous. Like Zakharova's when she connected Ukrainian borsht recipe with alleged Ukrainian xenophobia.

gregy741
30 Jul 2022  #658

That's because most claims coming from Russia

its not that. this site is like propaganda channel not site with experts in weaponry.
this thermobaric use theory was trashed by many independent peoiple already on the fact that Thermobarics are not incendiary weapons, they operate with blast pressure and damage especially to buildings

and those guys claimed as evidence that was thermobaric because there was no damage to building. they just assumed based on the name that thermobaric burn things but it doesnt . it use pressure to destroy not fire.those beds would be allover the place if it was thermobaric.

but am no expert i only write what others said.
you need independent experts to establish things not some infonapalm

and here is the quote from hes own link:
"cannot independently assess the nature of the attack or the party responsible"
another independent study said opposite thing

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #659

its not that. this site is like propaganda channel not site with experts in weaponry.

I was referring to the quality of Russian propaganda in general. You complained about people being more inclined to believe in pro-Ukrainian versions, I explained you why. Another factor may be the fact that Russia started a war and brought death to thousands of civilians, making some idiotic claims about allegedly fighting nazis - that leads people to not even care what Russia has to say as long as Russia doesn't gtfo back to Russia (and probably for few decades afterwards).

Miloslaw
30 Jul 2022  #660

its not that. this site is like propaganda channel

Only because of Polish commie traitors like you and various Russian and Serb posters.
Free speech is obviously not something you agree with.....


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