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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3
pawian
29 Jul 2022 #603
russia as "terrorist state
Yes, important move by US Senate to declare it at last.
...and press 1 for Polish, press 2 for Ukrainian
Yes, why not? Anything that helps Ukrainian refugees is good. Even sacred. Ha! Only dupeks don`t grasp it. Ha!
gregy741
29 Jul 2022 #604
am still trying to figure this attack out.
lets say Russia did it. what would be the motive,whats to gain? ppl blame but not many offer any credible explanation
its a massive blow for country reputation and dont see ,what was to get from killing 50 out of 3k pows in such heinous way.
ukra and US in the other hand are just pushing important bill in US senat. to designate russia as terrorist state- its a ideal situation to help convincing senators.. and they are just requesting those ATACMS long range missiles.
geeez from interia
wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-atak-na-oboz-filtracyjny-w-oleniwce-wzajemne-oskarzenia-rosj,nId,6187983
finally official explanation from ukra about this attack and motives,
so basically ukra are saying,that Russians blew this building,in order to hide bad prison infrastructure condition, before some official inspectors arrival from Moscow. and hide some corruption issues in facility.and to put " psychological pressure on Ukrainian citizens"
i understand that they must give stupids some explanation/motives ,in order to lie,but my god this is even worse than air conditioners.
how on earth anyone with functional brain would buy this cra.p?
Novichok
29 Jul 2022 #605
how on earth anyone with functional brain would buy this cra.p?
Brainless Russia haters will. Just look around here...No place on earth has so many brainless Russian-hating morons per square foot.
Crnogorac3
29 Jul 2022 #606
Spetsnaz's message to the children of Donbas after the elimination of the ukrop occupier from one of their schools
youtu.be/1z8kEL5UjVs
Novichok
29 Jul 2022 #607
So how did Finland manage to keep those evil Russians away with a mil budget that is one-quarter of Poland's?
How about because Russia has no intentions to invade Finland? Duh!
Hey, military geniuses, I am still waiting for the reasons why Russia is planning to invade Poland. Since you know what Putin thinks before he does, it shouldn't be really hard to explain his reasons. And without using the word "you" or equivalent.
Novichok
30 Jul 2022 #608
Quoting dailymail.com:
Europe's energy panic begins: Spain tells workers to take off their TIES to save electricity, Hanover switches off hot water while German and Austrian cities turn off lights and Oktoberfest faces axe
European leaders are scrambling to save energy as Russia cuts off gas supplies
Berlin has stopped lighting landmarks at night, while Hanover has shut off hot water to public buildings and banned portable air conditioners
Linz, in Austria, has also turned off lights at night and Salzburg plans to follow
Spanish PM told workers to take off their ties to stay cool rather than use air con
This is so cool...Yeah, sanctions and embargos have consequences, idiots. The irony of it is that you, Eurons, did it to yourself....hahahahahahahaha...Say, hi to your hero, Mr. Z.
My advice: wear the same underwear for a week and don't brush your yellow teeth for a month.
PolAmKrakow
30 Jul 2022 #609
Finland managed to not be attacked by Russia because Russia uses Finland as a vacation spot, and a trade partner. However, the Fins have always been prepared for something to break out and the border is well guarded by highly trained soldiers. The Fins are known for their shooting. Russia simply has no current need to attack them, but there is always tomorrow.
I would even agree that Russia has no clear need to attack Poland. But Putin wants a return of Soviet like states, and that one reason alone may be enough for him to try something. I doubt he does though because the Russian army is getting destroyed in Ukraine, and they cant even back fill with more men there.
This war in Ukraine, makes no real sense for Russia. It is imperialism. Putin miscalculated and should be spending the money and manpower on building a better Russia. Something that has not been done since 1991. Even if Russia captured all of Ukraine, they are getting what? Moving their border or sphere of influence right to NATO doorstep. Stupid move if the claim is you want to keep NATO away. At the cost of men and money, and the future deals with the west? Stupid.
Make all the deals you want with the jihadist and camel riders and you will get what? When they are also sanctioned you will get nothing. Build more bombs to attack the west? And get what when the world is destroyed? The whole thinking of what is happening is backward. Russia gains nothing in Ukraine, but they create more $hit places to live for Russian speakers.
It is hilarious to read you Russian supporters who have never been to Russia or Ukraine. You have no idea what an absolute toilet of a country Russia is. Its a bad blown up version of Saturday Night Fever merged with the Godfather in Moscow. The country is a dumpster fire when it comes to living. People are miserable. The level of intelligence of the general public is barely above that of a grade school education in the US. Incapable is the word I would use to describe Russia and Russian people in general. There are of course outliers who are highly intelligent, who then go to work for the government and oligarchs with bad intentions because thats where the money is. Really it is a $hit hole turd world country who's leader just needs to be killed.
Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022 #610
The sanctions are working! We in the West will probably stink unwashed with unbrushed yellow teeth but Putin will lose....
West is taking the right measures
ex-CIA chief Petraeus believes Ukraine's victory is "increasingly likely"
tagesspiegel.de/politik/westen-ergreife-die-richtigen-massnahmen-ex-cia-chef-petraeus-haelt-sieg-der-ukraine-fuer-immer-wahrscheinlicher/28561676.html
...The former head of the US CIA, David Petraeus, believes that Ukraine winning the war against Russia are high.
It seems "increasingly likely that Ukrainian forces will be able to retake much, if not all, of the areas that have been occupied by Russian forces in recent months," Petraeus told the "Bild" newspaper. He believes that Russia's military success is "very unlikely". ....
Any day more Putin can't declare victory is a day closer to an ukrainian success.....these miscalculated "not-wars" have their very own dynamic, always had!
cms neuf
30 Jul 2022 #611
The pathetic paid trolls have switched from "Russia is winning" (it was not and it never can) to "sanctions aren't working" (they are and they will bite much more deeply in Autumn once the Russian's get back from their mosquito ridden dachas and find there is no work)
So a few fountains have been switched off ? Big whoop
The Russians want local collaborators to organize sham elections, but obviously these quislings are listening to the sound of Ukraine troops getting closer and closer and worrying about how they can escape
PolAmKrakow
30 Jul 2022 #612
@cms neuf
From a conversation I just had with coffee and a US Airborne Infantry officer, Kherson will fall more quickly than first anticipated. The conversation was that they expect only a few weeks before it is back in the hands of Ukraine, before the end of August. If that happens, and Crimea is cut off from the land bridge, the rest of the Russian occupied territory could be gained back in a few months.
Recruiting in Russia for new meat to be ground up is not going so well. Only about 15,000 to replace the 75,000 killed or wounded are heading to the front. And they are going with about a month of training. Orc roast is about to get bigger.
Crnogorac3
30 Jul 2022 #613
...and press 1 for Polish, press 2 for Ukrainian.
A parliamentary team was appointed to prevent the ukrainianization of Poland. Some claim that Russia is not an enemy of Poland.
t.me/hotptakes/2518
More and more young women in Warsaw have been raped or sexually assaulted by foreign-speaking Uber/Bolt drivers.
Warsaw prosecutors have said there have been 28 rapes, which is about 1 a week.
t.me/hotptakes/2822
In Warsaw, the rate of rape has been increasing in the last few years and there is evidence that a mafia is organized with the explicit aim of raping Polish girls. This is connected with immigration from Ukraine and the Caucasus, mainly Georgia. The Poles tried with the immigration of christians and not muslims.
what you think about zakarpatia?
t.me/hotptakes/2808
Map posted by Medvedev yesterday.
Tacitus
30 Jul 2022 #614
We in the West will probably stink unwashed with
Not like the water will be turned off. Cold showers are healthier anyway.
Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022 #615
....we Germans need to be toughened up again anyhow.....we have become such soft pussies! :)
Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022 #616
....fitting.....and it hurts! :(

reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/wbs8w1/iron_leadership/
.....Germany was, still is, on a wrong path....(I blame Merkel and her supporters in the media for nearly 20 years)
johnny reb
30 Jul 2022 #617
Russian energy giant Gazprom says it has suspended gas supplies to Latvia - the latest EU country to experience such action amid tensions over Ukraine.
Meanwhile Russia's private military company the "Wagner Group" is playing a key role in the war in Ukraine because Putin's forces are facing significant troop shortages.
Ukraine is also reporting an increase in Russian spies inside Ukraine.
Crnogorac3
30 Jul 2022 #618
Germans will do jack-$hit. From 1945 Germany is totally occupied. There are 12 US bases there and they are calling themselves "Occupation Forces" to this very day. Beside that, all German politicians are in their hands, there is no real opposition and Germany is fully castrated.....


So don't have any illusions about some kind of a "German uprising" because it would be stomped by TPTB at start.
Cojestdocholery
30 Jul 2022 #619
Germany was, still is, on a wrong path
They see they deal with Russia as a good thing for Germany.
Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022 #620
There are 12 US bases there and they are calling themselves "Occupation Forces" to this very day
Bavaria had the most of them....with them Bavaria developed after the war from an agrarian backward loser to the most modern industrialized and wealthy of all western Bundesländer. (And USians now think Germany = Bavaria)
Compare that with those who weren't blessed with these occupation forces! For example all those with Russians instead of Americans....
Beside that, all German politicians are in their hands
I wish....Germany would had been better off without our own kind of misgovernment like the last 20 years....
Tacitus
30 Jul 2022 #621
Interesting how someone who thinks Russia is "denazyfing" Ukraine sees malevolent jews everywhere.
Reminds me of someone in the past... Hint, the man once justified his war against the Soviet Union with the claim that the SU was secretly controlled by jews... .
Novichok
30 Jul 2022 #622
Why would Russia attack Poland? What would be their benefit even if they could occupy Poland again?
Good question, Novichok. Anyone here to answer?
for violating new speech codes
...new speech code that goes with new democracy - not to be confused with normal, adjective-free democracy.
Tacitus
30 Jul 2022 #623
Because he wants to restore Russia's 1917 borders?
Not like he had a rational reason to invade Ukraine either.
Novichok
30 Jul 2022 #624
Because he wants to restore Russia's 1917 borders?
Are you asking me or just testing if I am stupid enough to buy this bs answer?
gregy741
30 Jul 2022 #625
who thinks Russia is "denazyfing" Ukraine sees malevolent jews everywhere.
and? i dont see contradiction here. ukra nazi /banderist ideology is directed against different than jewish ethnic group.
so you think if someone doesn't hate jews cant be nazi? i understand that nazi ideology in the past had strong antisemitic component,and ukra nazis might not follow it, but banderist ideology is still chauvinist nazi ,its just hate other ethnic group because have different goal- ukra cultural domination in ukraine.
Bratwurst Boy
30 Jul 2022 #626
stupid enough to buy this bs answer?
Really? What about that:
....."One of Putin's main arguments is that there are Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk who need protection, and that what is now Ukraine was a historic part of Russia.....
mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-inspired-borders-old-26320840
What does he mean with that if not a longing for the old borders?
Even here on this board Putinistas deny Ukraine often enough their right for existence...as if there are no Ukrainians....not really at least...
so you think if someone doesn't hate jews cant be nazi?
Antisemitism was a mainstay of the real Nazis...the Nationalsozialists....the members of the german NSDAP!
The term Nazi has become in recent years a bat to beat your political adversaries with, what it means has been blurred and falsified...but to declare a whole democratic non-german country Nazi takes the crown!
Tacitus
30 Jul 2022 #627
I am stupid enough to buy this bs answer?
I am just wondering if you have any actual knowledge of what Putin himself has said? Because if you did, you would not be asking such stupid questions. Then again, asking stupid question on the mistaken belief that it sounds profound is your favourite M.O. for some reason.
Putin has written a whole essay last year and held a speech in February about his view on history and he made it clear, that he wants to restore Russia's pre-Brest-Litovsk border.
gregy741
30 Jul 2022 #628
Antisemitism was a mainstay of the real Nazis
we not living in 1930-ies anymore. nowdays nazi ideology could be applied to any chauvinist ideology thats have national superiority dogma in it and conduct violent actions against minority
Nazi has become in recent years a bat to beat your political adversaries
tell that to 14k civilians killed in donbas by azov ,aidar ,right sector scum ..."oh ,they are not real nazi,they dont hate jews,,its all good, oh they so liberal"
Novichok
30 Jul 2022 #629
he made it clear, that he wants to restore Russia's pre-Brest-Litovsk border.
Then why didn't you say so instead of answering a legit question with a question...
Also, you weren't there in person when he said it, so it must be on the Internet. I mean the text of what he said, not an interpretation of it.
So which one is the basis of your claim? 1. Exact text. 2. Interpretation. 3. Your own conclusions.
PolAmKrakow
30 Jul 2022 #630
@gregy741
I would tell them if there were 14,000 and since they are dead, how ever many there were, they wont hear me. But I would tell them.
@Novichok
I actually answered your question.