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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Tacitus
12 Aug 2022  #1021

they can blame Putin and turn on him

If the already imposed heavy sanctions do not cause them to turn, banning their Visas won't make a difference.

Think the US opened their arms to Nazi tourists

Which also made it more difficult for the jews to escape.

Crow
12 Aug 2022  #1022

If we are frank, Russia at this moment saving Poland from nazified (read- Eunized, Germanized and Vaticanized) Ukraine. Slavs of Ukraine themselves are saved now. Some.

mafketis
12 Aug 2022  #1023

If you're not reading general svr, then you should.

Interesting short thread today. Putin has noticed the lack of victories lately and has understood there won't be any very soon (if at all). So.... idiot that he is, he's thinking of starting a new war! Against an enemy he thinks he could easily beat!

Apparently he's ordered preparations for attacks on Georgia or Kazakhstan (apparently the choice of which will be made at the last minute - a typical putain tactic).

twitter.com/generalsvr_en/status/1557989975366504449

pawian
12 Aug 2022  #1024

Russia at this moment saving Poland from nazified

No, today Poland is the biggest buyer of armament in the world in order to supply the Polish Army before the RuSSist invasion of Poland.

That is why you and RuSSists can put their "saving" into your asses. Poles spit on it. Tfu! :):):)

PolAmKrakow
13 Aug 2022  #1025

More great video from the Ukraine army twitter.com/i/status/1557783122854518785 Love to see the tank get taken out and the Orc' running for the fields. Must be that the other Orc's got roasted. Russian Tank a.k.a. Easy Bake Oven Happy gulag biatches!

mafketis
13 Aug 2022  #1026

Modern russia....

A residential building in Omsk was supposed to be repaired by the end of last year.... somehow that didn't happen.... you'll never guess what happens next!!!!

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1558223477445955585

rotten, failed state...

pawian
13 Aug 2022  #1027

A residential building in Omsk was supposed to be repaired

And that is going to happen to all non-military objects in RuSSia. Everything not connected with the army will rot and crumble coz they won`t have enough finance and technology to maintain things. Those microchips they stole in Ukrainian washing machines will be used for tanks and planes, instead of construction machines.

PolAmKrakow
13 Aug 2022  #1028

Russian engineers hard at work on military design to make sure more Russian soldiers die in an efficient manner. youtu.be/T_fwZf9vrO0

pawian
13 Aug 2022  #1029

Back on topic:

Comment under the vid about Polish tanks delivered to Ukraine:

Germany announces future deliveries that never happens. Poland announces deliveries that already happened. That's the difference.

PolAmKrakow
14 Aug 2022  #1030

Meanwhile, in the real war, Ukraine continues to keep Russia from advancing, and is slowly gaining back more territory. While new mobilization orders will take place next week, Ukraine really has brought the war to a stand still. Russia can not afford a stand still at this point. Without a clear win, Putin is done for. The public will not support him and all the dead boys he sent over to Ukraine without a clear win.

The nuclear reactor is going to be a turning point. I believe something is going to happen there. Either Ukraine takes it back, or Russia will turn it into a dirty bomb on their way out. If they cant have all of Ukraine they want to flatten it and make it useless. Just my opinion, but I have a gut feeling on this.

pawian
14 Aug 2022  #1031

If they cant have all of Ukraine they want to flatten it and make it useless

Yes, those Mongol savages resort to similar methods that Nazis used during WW2.

mafketis
14 Aug 2022  #1032

Russia can not afford a stand still - Without a clear win, Putin is done for

That's why, according to generalsvr, Putin has ordered plans for an attack on Georgia and/or Kazakhstan (he almost always orders more than one plan and chooses which one at the last minute).

Georgia is small (and now full of russians trying to get away from putain, so that would be interesting)

Kazakhstan is big and has more ethnic russians (though not a majority in any region?)

To relatively normal people this sounds insane, which means that putain will probably do it (and hasten his downfall).

twitter.com/generalsvr_en/status/1557989975366504449

PolAmKrakow
14 Aug 2022  #1033

@mafketis
Kazakhstan would be a big mistake. They have already shown the balls to not support Putin, and they have a pretty big army. I have only been there once, but they have a ton of money and are spending it on their people and infrastructure. Georgia would be my guess, but I think that would spread Russia too thin militarily.

mafketis
14 Aug 2022  #1034

shown the balls to not support Putin

I had some ethnic Kazakh students last semester, they're big on expanding the use of Kazakh and phasing out russian... IINM they have higher fertility than russians so it would be a now or never scenario...

Georgia seems a safer bet (and a way to press gang russian men who've fled there?)

PolAmKrakow
15 Aug 2022  #1035

While all the Putin coxuckers have been silent, Russia will now be working with the Taliban when it suits them and developing deeper relations with North Korea. Essentially saying they will dine with other terrorists in Afghanistan and they will align with another sanctioned country who's people are literally starving because the moronic leader can not find ways to provide food for his people instead he wants missiles.

Funny how all go dark when things are not going so well for the Orc's. But its easy to understand people jumping off the bandwagon when the wagon loses steam. Happy gulag biatches!

Bratwurst Boy
15 Aug 2022  #1036

An alternative to the no-visa idea?

Russian tourists are greeted with the Ukrainian national anthem

spiegel.de/ausland/ukrainekrieg-russische-touristen-werden-an-finnischem-staudamm-mit-ukrainischer-nationalhymne-begruesst-a-6a08375d-48ee-4458-bef2-0981c5dbe7a0

Many Russians are currently vacationing in Finland. A dam is one of the most popular sights. There they sometimes have to deal more with the attack on Ukraine than at home.

At one of Finland's most visited natural attractions, tourists from Russia greeted by the national anthem of Ukraine.

At the same time every day, the opening of the almost hundred-year-old dam on the Imatrankoski River near the town of Imatra is usually accompanied by the sounds of Finnish composer Jean Sibelius. Hundreds of onlookers usually gather on the bridge in the town of Imatra to watch the water rush by beneath them.

Since the end of July, the city has started the show by playing the Ukrainian national anthem.


😎

Bobko
15 Aug 2022  #1037

Funny how all go dark when things are not going so well for the Orc's

Who's silent? I'm just busy consulting Poles on issues regarding coal and pubic hair transplantation. Also, I'm a not a little bit upset with you, since you told me to prepare my orc ass for a glorious Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson, and it has now been two months. First it was July, then it was August, now I read that it "might" happen in the Fall and certainly before the end of the year.

Getting a little impatient here.

Bratwurst Boy
15 Aug 2022  #1038

Seriously???

twitter.com/AnarchoTerran/status/1557796056624234502/photo/1

🙄

Korvinus
15 Aug 2022  #1039

Getting a little impatient here.

A base literally just exploded in Crimea. Such things started happening recently. I am not sure how can you spin as "we are winning more and more".

pawian
15 Aug 2022  #1040

tourists from Russia greeted by the national anthem of Ukraine.

Excellent idea. They should also kneel down to show respect. If they don`t, immediate visa revoking and return to RuSSia "eden."
However, what if some of them are planning to defect for good and stay in the West coz they see no future in Putinland?
I am in two minds about it.

Novichok
15 Aug 2022  #1041

All that destruction and deaths for Z-P still zero.

If Mr. Z was chased out as they did to the other guy in 2014, Ukraine became another Crimea without a fight, and Ukrainians became Russian citizens, what exactly would happen to the ordinary Ukrainians and their daily routines?

Can somebody here name the before and after specific differences without using "freedom", "pride", and "democracy"? Or "you".

gumishu
15 Aug 2022  #1042

what exactly would happen to the ordinary Ukrainians and their daily routines?

it is a valid question, indeed - however there is a slight problem - not all Ukrainians are ordinary - and some of those out of ordinary would probably be blown by the wind through the vast fields of Ukraine after being burned in mobile crematoria that Putin sent in to Ukraine with his troops

pawian
15 Aug 2022  #1043

what exactly would happen to the ordinary Ukrainians and their daily routines?

They would have to forget they belong to a different nation than RuSSist. Similarly, Poles were russisized in the RuSSian partition in 19th century - we were to become RuSSians. Ask Poles if they want to be RuSSian. The same with Ukrainians - most of them don`t want it.

The restive Poles who refused to become RuSSians were persecuted in different ways: fired from jobs and schools, arrested, sent to Siberia for decades and eventually executed.

Darling, the same would happen to Ukrainians trying to keep their independence. RuSSists would annihilate them by thousands, if not millions. We can see it now when RuSSists execute civilians by shelling their districts at random.

mafketis
15 Aug 2022  #1044

All that destruction and deaths for Z-P still zero.

For craven cowards who don't mind the lash of the tsar on their back maybe, for people who love freedom, nothing is more important!

I don't expect you to understand.

specific differences

P
have no voice in running anything, everything decided above and centrally
expected to worship the tsar
nothing you make is yours, a bigger fish can take it away at any time,
no ability to plan, those with power can undo years of your saving and work in an instant

Z
have a voice in running the local community and the country as a whole
not expected to worship any particular leader
property rights

Novichok
15 Aug 2022  #1045

OK, I got it.

In Russia ...

1. People are not allowed to vote or say anything.
2. One must worship a person who does not exist.
3. Stealing is legal.
4. One is not allowed to plan.
5. Savings can be seized without a court order.
6. People cannot own anything.

In Ukraine...

The exact opposite of 1 through 6.

I stand corrected. I didn't realize that Ukrainians are blessed with American-grade rights. I am packing...Where is my gun and my passport...

Bobko
15 Aug 2022  #1046

A base literally just exploded in Crimea

... and a thousand Ukrainian bases exploded since February 24th - you didn't see me dancing around then, proclaiming strategic success. Now I understand, that in this David and Goliath battle, as you see it, we are supposed to magnify every Ukrainian success 100X, otherwise we are not good people, but there have to be reasonable limits. The amount of planes lost represents a tiny fraction of overall RF airpower. This is the largest such strike since the start of the war. We can manage losing this amount every six months, without losing our mind.

This is war, and there will be losses, and many more bases will be struck - on both sides.

I read Ukrainian news, and I see that the mood has taken a noticeable turn for the worse, even as you cheer here about the strikes in Crimea. Google Translate is your friend:

censor.net/ua/resonance/3358083/pisky_myasorubka

censor.net/ua/news/3360533/v_piskah_tryvayut_zapekli_boyi_ukrayinski_zahysnyky_prosyat_genshtab_pro_dopomogu_nemaye_sliv_aby_opysaty


As context:

1) censor.net.ua is perhaps the most nationalistic, pro-war, anti-Russian news site that exists in the Ukraine. If I'm not mistaken, it is also the most visited website.

2) It is run by Yuri Butusov, a person that hates Russia a little bit more than PolAmKrakow when he is drunk.

3) The two articles are written by Ukrainian officers and commanders fighting on the Eastern front.

Read them, and draw your own conclusions.

Novichok
15 Aug 2022  #1047

Bobko, I have bad news for you...I am probably the only one who read your post.

What these creeps do here is act like virgins and, by their own admission, avoid like a plague anything that could contaminate the purity of their opinions and anti-Russia hateful feelings.

In these circles, doubt is blasphemy and not permissible.

pawian
15 Aug 2022  #1048

I am probably the only one who read your post.

Yes, but for a good reason coz it is still one sided RuSSist propaganda of success. After reading your statement, I looked quickly through Bobko`s post and found a few lies, e.g,

The amount of planes lost represents a tiny fraction of overall RF airpower.

Yes, but you cleverly omitted mentioning the pilots who flew those planes and were killed when their barracks were destroyed, too. HA!
RuSSists are already recruiting orc cannon fodder in prisons and mental hospitals. What do you think - how many pilots will they find there to replace the dead???? hahahaha

buhahahahaha

the purity of their opinions and anti-Russia hateful feelings.

Yes, darling, coz it is the struggle between Good and Evil and most posters here are decent people who take the side of Good. You are not one of them as an attention sicker.

Bobko
15 Aug 2022  #1049

doubt is blasphemy and not permissible.

It is a sign of weakness, and a sign that the work being done by the RF is achieving its aims.

the pilots who flew those planes and were killed too

This is the first place I read this.

pawian
15 Aug 2022  #1050

This is the first place I read this.

It is natural you won`t read it in Kremlin media. :):):)
Ukrainians did `t aim at planes. They destroyed only 9. They primarily aimed at the infrastructure which was completely oblitarated. Do you think those buildings there were empty at the time??? hahahaha No, I can assure you, Ukrainians had chosen the best moment to attack when most pilots were having a break in the main building.

Why did they strike during the day and not at night? Ha??? To kill as many orc crew members as possible. Simple. hahahaha


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