Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

In reality, he was dangerously unstable. Like Putler.


As Austrian as Fritzl.

I'd be so happy if the government in Germany were more like those people there who help Ukrainian refugees and want Germany to take a more active role against r"SSia.

I can't figure out Scholz at all

....join the club!

He is shady and has problems to communicate....not good chancellor material. I hope he will be gone soon!

Do you have a source for this? That Germany delivered weapons in large scale to Russia in large scale?


Germany is purchasing gas in the same way as other European countries do.


The fear was that Russia could use those deliveries as a justification for the war. There was an impression in Berlin that there was still some channels left to talk with Putin, and that sending weapons with German approval would disrupt them. A mistake in hindsight, but other Western countries including the UK followed the same assumptions. No Western government believed that Ukraine could put up a conventional fight, and a few outdated artillery pieces would not have made a difference in this calculation. The UK and USA believed the same. They could have supplied Ukraine with heavy artillery and tanks any time they wanted, yet they only did so months after the war broke out and once it became clear that Kabul would not be repeated.


And quickly dropped this opposition.

That's why I gave up.


Like Ceausescu. 45-minute trial and a firing squad for the deaths and the destruction of Ukraine.

Quoting middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-amnesty-report-apologising-why

In that report, Amnesty accused Ukrainian forces of committing war crimes by stationing troops and artillery in or near schools, hospitals and residential buildings, thereby using civilians effectively as human shields. Such practices by Ukrainian soldiers were identified in 19 different towns and villages.

No!!! Z guys criminals? No way! How do you make a spiritually uplifting movie and skip THAT? If you include it, you will be a Putin bootlicker...or worse.

CNN:

Dozens of foreign fighters eliminated in strike on Ukrainian base - Russia
More than 90 mercenaries have been killed in a high-precision strike on the city of Kharkov, Moscow claims

Now, I know helping in the kitchen is not exciting but it sure beats THAT! At least Darwin is happy...

No, it didn't.

Novichok, you already wrote about this report and we've discussed it already. Are you suffering from dementia?


"Russia kills and maims children in Kharkiv and claims it 'destroyed mercenaries'"

khpg.org/en/1608811058

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Ukrainian flags in Orleans, France :):

My "ruski" at work tells me that according to RT, 20000 Polish mercenaries have already died in Ukraine. And he believes it. They (russian) have holes in their brains.

@Alien, how long has he been living in Germany?

@Alien

Yes, and there are people on this very forum that claim that Russia has lost 3/4 of its invasion force, with at least 70,000 killed. Do they also have a hole in their head?

We have PolAmCow who even claims that Russians are sustaining higher casualties than Ukrainians. He is a prime candidate for skull-hole plugging operation.

Ukrainian military cemetery in mid-size city:

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I don't know, 10 years or so. Actually he is born in Ukraine. There are to many russians in Germany and many Germans support them and they don't like Ukraine. Germany is not Poland.

Bobko: 70000 killed russian soldiers are more possible than 20000 Polish mercenaries.

Australia will provide Ukraine with 300 DefendTex D40 kamikaze drones...

Can be launched by hand or from a 40mm grenade launcher
Maximum flight range of 20km
Maximum flight time of 30-60 minutes
Weight is 300g (!!!)
Can operate individually or as a swarm (!!!)
Can target tanks, infantry, or ammunition depots
gagadget.com/en/159013-australia-will-provide-ukraine-with-300-defendtex-d40-kamikaze-drones-that-can-be-launched-from-a-mortar/

Amazing stuff that Australia has, who would have thought.

"'Being tested in Poland."
twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1560611152295370753

It isn't a military cemetery. This particular photo shows graves of people killed by Russian soldiers in Irpin.

@Paulina
Bobko knew that.

@Alien, if he did know, then he's more f*cked up than I thought...

Let's wait for his answer......

@Paulina

Alien is correct, but I don't want to rehash again how many in those graves are civilians, and how many are combatants.

Just read this article on Wikipedia, curiously titled "The BATTLE of Irpen":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Irpin

@Bobko, so why did you write it was a military cemetery? This photo was all over the internet.

You realise that there were dead civillians found in Irpin, Bucha, etc, right? Your Putinist buddies even claimed that it was Ukrainians who killed them.


I remember reading that 300 civillians and 50 soldiers.


After the battle came Russian occupation.

Misfinformation from a putainista... who could have possible foreseen that?

@Bobko
You are typical stupid Russian. I mean that quite literally. Just stupid beyond explanation in todays educational environment. Even if that grave phot was accurate, we all know Ukraine soldiers are dying. But Russia is losing twice as many every day. Yes, more than 70,000 Russians killed or wounded. Thats the number. Nealry half the invading force, and now Russia is recruiting prisoners! Scumbags recruiting bigger scumbags.

@amiga500
Dont look now, but more drones on the way from USA. Along with more missiles for HIMARS, and specifically the type of missiles that take out the Orc's radar. Why would you take out radar? For the counter offensive that is beginning, for all the Putinites who have trouble understanding.

Happy gulag you dumb MF biatches! Orc roast continues all weekend long, free admission for all Russians.

See Alien?

@amiga500, that's cool! 👏


I know, right...? lol 🙄


Even now?

@Bobko
70,000 killed or wounded. Take a reading comprehension class. That is nearly half, not 3/4, again, get your facts straight. Like every other dumb Russian you lie and twist facts to suit your needs. The facts is the Russian offensive has stalled, meaning it has failed. The Ukraine's have stopped the Russians. Ukraine has slowly begun to take back ground. Those are facts.

Russia is using a nuclear reactor as a shield for its soldiers. Why? Because they are a bunch of pussies who wont fight without risking other countries. Russia is using 1960's era tanks because they are out of their modern tanks. Russia is using dumb weapons because they are almost out of smart weapons. Russia is recruiting from prisons because even their own people don't want to fight for Putin. Putin wont declare general mobilization because that would require a declaration of war, which he said this was not.

All facts for you Russian Nazi's. History will not be kind to Russia, and it will go down as a second failed attempt to control Europe. It will be the biggest failure since .....Hitler. Thats all Russia is, an updated dopy of the Nazi Reich. It will die just like the reich died, slow and painful.

There's no way we are going to get reliable information about losses as long as this war continues. Misinformation (on both sides) is just too evident. We will have to wait for that after the war is over (long after).

For now, we can observe what is happening on the front: over 20% of Ukrainian territory is occupied by Russians; in May Ukraine lost 450km2, in June 1500km2, I have no data for July but Russians seem to still have the upper hand. True, there were some successful attacks against infrastructure in Crimea and elsewhere but it's by no means enough to shift the scales.


That's another thing. How many times did we read that one half of Russian troops are deserting, the second half are constantly drunk and the third half is busy sending all the Ukrainian washing machines to Russia? There must be the fourth half then, that's keeping the Ukrainian army (not that weak and constantly reinforced with western weapons) on the defensive. Don't you feel that some people in the propaganda department are overdoing it a bit (on both sides, by the way)?

Ukrainian GDP will shrink by 45% until the end of the year, Russian by 11% - who's going to bleed out first? I just don't see much basis for your constant happy optimism, PolAm. I would like to be wrong, but I just don't see it.

From a non left wing source foxnews.com/world/from-prison-cells-special-units-russias-new-recruits

So they're afraid to stand up to bullies.

I'm glad we're not.


Because they were told to by decent governments.

It would be interesting to know just how many people in German public life are r*SSian assets. Schroeder we all know about.


From r*Ssia it is relentless, to the point that nobody now believes a word they say.

Schroeder, Merkel, Steinmeier, Scholz for sure (also the architect of the "let's kiss up to russia" policy is, according to one source I saw, still in an unelected position 'advising' Scholz).

Germany vvh0red itself out for cheap energy and.... the results are a net deficit of credibility in CEE (soon to be all of Europe?)

u let ure PO cats in, they'll be right back lickin that kraut pu$sy, mark my words. tusk? another merkel slave! Now i'm open to ways of maintaining polish sovereignty if PiS gets voted out, but AFAIK, there are no signals in that direction..

More like interested in preventing a war. Trying for one final round of diplomacy instead a few outdated weaponry to a country that was not expected to defend itself.


More like Ukraine's resistance showed that this would be more than an empty gesture.


Merkel was the only Western politician who was actually trying to confront Russia diplomatically after Crimea. While politicians like Johnson made one Russian oligarch a lord because he donated money to the Tories.

German Ostpolitik proofed to be misguided in the end, but it was enforced by its' previous great success stories. Detente, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the integration of Eastern Europe into the West. And the cheap gas helped keeping the German industry afloat during the many crisis in the 2000s and 2010s, and thus the European economy. That is something people should remember before they make baseless accusations regarding the integrity of ots' architects.


We shall see. PiS was always deeply hostile to Germany, no change there. The Baltic states are more than ever asking for German military aid and presence. Same for the Czech Republic, and Hungary (which PiS has been happily suppporting) remains a Russian mole. Hardly any change at all.

He just couldn't resist. You know after all he is Russian. Why are suprised?


He says - it is not our war and It would be better if cooperation between Russia and Germany should should florish. It is in German interest for Russia to win or at least not to loose. It is clear what he is about.