Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

But you see, Crow - if you want people to treat your posts seriously you need to give them those sources. It can be done very easily - for example you can use square brackets to give the number of your source and under the text name the sources with corresponding numbers (it's called an in-text citation in IEEE style).

For example, your post #1380 should look like this:

"Supposedly, by some sources, Zelenski gets 100 mil. US dollars [1] for every month of war prolonged and house waits for him in California [2].

Actor plays the role of his life. Literally.

Sources:

[1] Crow's ass
[2] Ibid."

@Crow
Supposedly, by some sources, which sources, RT?
Besides, he is priceless.

Instead of prolonging the war you expect him to surrender to invading murderers ?

Not very Svetoid heroism

Besides Ukraine are winning - why would they surrender?

Interesting, a previously unknown Russian partisan group has claimed responsibility for blowing up Dugin's daughter and published their manifesto on the internet:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/przyznali-sie-do-zamachu-na-corke-dugina-putin-to-uzurpator-i-zbrodniarz-6804045175073472a

The article warns though that it's hard to say for now whether this organisation really exists or is a cover for Russian secret service operation.

Ahahaha. The possibility that it is a nominal front for the Ukrainian secret service is not an option, I suppose.

@Bobko
Yeah, true it can be both. Ukrainians probably hope for there to be another political option then Putin to talk with, they probably not trusting Putin and his gang with good reason

@Bobko, I'm just reporting what the article says :)

According to Ilya Ponomarev that group is also responsible for the partisan acts that were taking place in Russia for the last few months.

According to today's generalsvr.... that's basically what happened....

twitter.com/generalsvr_en/status/1561638287512637441

FYI only

Super interesting....I had such a hunch!

At some point I would encourage people to stop making excuses or trying to blame external forces for Putins War and the reasons for the invasion of Ukraine, its an incredibly unconvincing argument to blame the US

Its relatively simple, the people of Ukraine voted in 2019 in a free and fair election for Zelensky with a 72% majority. He ran on a pro-EU, pro-Western ticket and the people of Ukraine made a choice. No one forced them, no western agenda put a gun to there heads because its obvious to most people that the West offers a better, overall quality of life than Russia or countries like Belarus and other autocratic states. Putin didn't want to accept that the people of Ukraine have a choice to not align with his failed Soviet era border pipedream

Its okay if you don't personally believe in the right to vote and for citizens to decide who there leaders are, thats your right. But please stop assuming everyone else agrees with you and that the future of sovereign countries should be decided by more powerful countries

That is anathema and the antitheses of what Democracy is and will never be accepted by most of the world

And most important lets stop blaming the US\NATO for the voting decision that the majority of Ukrainians made

....and the reason for this invasion was NOT a NATO threat:

Olaf Scholz told reporters yesterday that he had assured Putin in the days before the Russian invasion that "Ukraine would not become a NATO member in the next 30 years".

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1561607831262052353

...well...now.....Ukraine will become most probably a NATO member soon....I still wonder what did go on in Putins brain as he decided to let it roll. I read his secret service misinformed him purposely...


washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/

But for what purpose? Did they want to get rid of him through losing a war?

Could it be that Ukraine is just a pawn sacrifice in a much bigger game for the Kremlin?

The acid test is any official statements from r*SSia.

Whatever they say, the opposite is true.

Alright, your position has been registered. Now it is clear that your opinions are not to be taken seriously in future, since you have self-declared your departure from objectivity.

Thank you for your response, and have a nice day.

Don't be silly.

Everyone knows that the r@SSian state lies compulsively.

Perhaps we should have a straw poll here asking who thinks that the r*SSian government is trustworthy and honest and who thinks it is the opposite.

Why do you guys not spell out the word 'Russia' ?
Is it because you are scared to death that it may come up on a google search engine that may make you a target or something ?

Your paranoia is quite comical to us.
Kind of like Lyzko using the word g_d instead of God. lol
Meanwhile the U.S. is pleading with Russia not to strike the nuke plant even though a missile just hit not far away from it.

I'll try. I just find it amusing that in the immediate aftermath of the bombing everyone here who supports Ukraine was cheering the death of "Putin's Rasputin's daughter". Lots of "attaboy Ukraine" and "how's that feel now Putin?", and then suddenly - when it emerged Ukraine is embarrassed to admit its involvement - how you all quickly got back in line behind the party message.

Except it didn't, did it now...

Naughty boy.

Excuse me? In the whispered words of the Virgin Mary, "come again?"

If Ukraine did it, so what. If they didn't, so what. There is a war going on, and when all of Ukraine is targeted, all of Russia should be as well. While some may call it a provocation, wtf isn't provoking about killing Ukrainian children? If you want a war, then you should be prepared for things to not always go your way and for the enemy to bring the fight to your doorstep. Since this woman looks to be a legitimate target based on her promoting violence in Ukraine, then it is what it is. Too bad its not the father is the only thing anyone should regret.

Great story about residents in Melitopol catching a Russian soldier trying to get to a teenage girl. They caught him and slit his throat in the street. Quick justice.

No need for a poll, I think it's pretty obvious ;)

1. PF members who believe RuSSian government is trustworthy and honest:

Crow
Crnogorac3
gregy

2. PF members who may or may not believe that RuSSian government is trustworthy and honest, but they will say it's trustworthy and honest anyway:

Bobko
Velund

3. PF members who don't care, but will defend the RuSSian government anyway:

Novichok

4. PF members who think the RuSSian state lies compulsively:

the rest of the forum


There's been a whole thread about why we're doing it, but you're still clueless?? 🤦


Not really, I wrote at the very beginning that it looked like an amateur's job to me (=most likely not prepared by the Ukrainian state).

Who on here was cheering her death ? I wasn't and I don't think anyone else was. We are Catholics mostly and we understand redemption and forgiveness.

You are just reading whatever dumb script your boss gave you

@cms neuf

Yes, I must have hallucinated all those posts. I'm sorry.

I was.

The world is a better place without her and mysterious 'accidents' happen every day in r*SSia. Usually to people who speak out openly about Putler's regime, so this is a refreshing change.

And at least she can't go on TV any more calling for PoWs to be murdered.

I wasn't "cheering" her death either. It was her father who screwed her up like this.

That's what I wrote:


She did turn out to be as evil as her father though, so I can't say I'm terribly saddened by her death. More by her fate, because we don't choose the family we are born into. However, I wasn't cheering her death, I was just wondering about who did it.

Thank you, I must have missed it.


It would give Putin a taste of how the parents feel about the 80,000 Russian sons that have been killed if his daughter were to get blown up too.

Putin is spiraling over his Ukraine war strategy and will soon no longer be able to hold meetings due to his sharply deteriorating health sources say.

Great! all the US and British "Journalists" promoting the US and UK wars of agression are also legimate targets.

Are we talking about any other wars?

No. Stop spouting nonsense and trying to pretend there's some sort of equivalence between r*SSist war crimes right now in a country bordering Poland and things far away in a different century.


She wasn't a 'journalist'; she was a particularly vile and fascistic demagogue who openly called for the murder of PoWs and for genocide in states bordering r*SSia.

Putin has murdered British citizens in Britain - including some poor guy who just picked up an empty bottle.

Anyway it's now more likely she was murdered by other Russians, probably some organized crime racket, since no honest business remains

Sorry, Barney, but you clearly have no idea who Dugin is and who his daughter was. They were fascists calling Ukrainians "subhumans" and they were calling for the extermination of the whole Ukrainian nation. They were a Russian version of Goebbels.

@Paulina
Remember designating someone a legimate target (as the poster above appeared to do) simply because you disagree with them no matter how poisonous their views works both ways.

@jon357
There is a direct equivallence between those things.