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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



pawian
15 Sep 2022  #2581

at a penal colony looking for new assault infantry to join his company.

This is RuSSia - officially recruiting inmates, even those who were sentenced for canibalistic murders.
Show me a country in the West which is doing such mad things.
And when I claim those Mongols are not civilised, Novi and other RuSSists frown. AMaSSing!

Miloslaw
15 Sep 2022  #2582

Before this war is over Kharkov and Odessa will be taken

I very much doubt that now.

Russia will not take Kharkov or Odessa

Agreed and you made a great post!

@Paulina

Very good and powerful post.

Wagner Group is the elite

Hahahaha!

55 year olds with an IQ of 80 who've barely been out of a cell for years?

That sums them up!

Russia is losing.

mafketis
15 Sep 2022  #2583

there's no way Bobi supports genocide

Have you read what he's written? He's totally in favor of genocide if it means other countries will 'respect' russia... believe people when they tell you who they are.

Even now he thinks it's possible for russia to take Odesa (obviously against the will of the overwhelming majority of people living there).

That is not a quirk of someone likeable it's someone who would not hestitate to call for your death if it served his political dreams....

pawian
15 Sep 2022  #2584

who would not hestitate to call for your death if it served his political dreams....

That is why Kania`s attitude to those confirmed RuSSists is so weird. He can be mental like them after all. Or desperately craves attention.

GefreiterKania
15 Sep 2022  #2585

@mafketis

Who on earth could possibly respect the perpetrators of genocide? It just doesn't make sense.

Could you please give me quotes from Bobko's posts that prove he supports genocide?

pawian
15 Sep 2022  #2586

Bobko's posts that prove he supports genocide?

Don`t be silly. RuSSists are deliberately hitting civilian sites, killing non-combatant people. Since the very first day of their invasion. Bobko fully supports it, he has never objected to such methods. What is worse, he and that other Mongol, Velund, who you fondly call Veli, complain RuSSists are too mild and expect an even more brutal war. It means more deaths of innocent people.

It is enough Bobko says you are a good friend and you fall for it happily. AmaSSing. Think about it coz you really look and sound like a complete nutter. Or a sick attention sicker.

It just doesn't make sense.

Exactly, darling! We have just had enough of your bs.

GefreiterKania
15 Sep 2022  #2587

@pawian

It is perfectly possible for someone to want his country to win the war without supporting the methods of conducting it, and Bobko said on many occasions that Russians will have to live with Ukrainians after the war. And you know very well that not criticising one's country openly doesn't necessarily mean the full support of all its actions.

I think you are all reading too much into it.

jon357
15 Sep 2022  #2588

Could you please give me quotes from Bobko's posts that prove he supports genocide?

Does he support r*SSia or doesn't he?

Supporting the illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and/or the genocidal and totalitarian regime in m*scow is (directly, NOT indirectly) supporting genocide.

There are numerous verified instances of torture, mass murder and yes, genocide and attempts to commit it, most recently an attempt to flood a major city which, had it been successful, would have resulted in a six-figure death toll.

Not to mention the actual calls for genocide from official r*SSian mouthpieces.

It is perfectly possible for someone to want his country to win the war without supporting the methods of conducting it,

It isn't. Really it isn't.

pawian
15 Sep 2022  #2589

you know perfectly well that not criticising one's country

Bla bla bla, now you are catching at silly excuses. Stop this pathetic fraternisation with confirmed RuSSists or you will become one of them one day.

Miloslaw
15 Sep 2022  #2590

It is perfectly possible for someone to want his country to win the war without supporting the methods of conducting it

That depends on your personal morals.

I agree that in war, sometimes those morals have to be transgressed.
But is what Russians are doing in Ukraine really acceptable to you?

GefreiterKania
15 Sep 2022  #2591

@jon357

I know of all the atrocities that you mention, I just don't think Bobi supports them (but I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this one).

@pawian

There's no risk of that at all.

@Miloslaw

No, it is certainly not acceptable. I never said it was.

Bobko
15 Sep 2022  #2592

This is RuSSia - officially recruiting inmates

If people living in the comfort of Moscow, St Petersburg and other big cities have no desire to fight and die in Ukraine, then they should at least shut their f*cking mouth when those same "disgusting" paupers and convicts are fighting there and laying down their life for a greater Russia.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. No sympathy for those defeatist bourgeois faggots.

Miloslaw
15 Sep 2022  #2593

, I just don't think Bobi supports them

I agree.Bobko sounds like a Russian that I could talk to and even share a drink!I

But he needs to decide what his moral standpoint is.
Does he remain a patriot whatever Russia does?
There has to be a cut off point.

pawian
15 Sep 2022  #2594

If people have no desire to fight and die in Ukraine

It still shows what a sick country RuSSia is. AmaSSing you can`t see it and openly admit it.

paupers and convicts are fighting there

Fighting?? Don`t be silly. They are as fit for fighting as a hedgehog is fit for brushing your teeth. They are thieves and murderers, I read an article about the problems they create in their units - officers are afraid to command them. What fighting can you do with such "army"???

cms neuf
15 Sep 2022  #2595

Thar's good Bobko - because the bourgeois faggots of Moscow have no time for you either - they literally could not care less if Russian and ethnic minority boys get killed for no reason.

They are not laying down their lives for a Greater Russia - because they have turned Russia into a weak pariah state. They only thing they are fighting for is the right to steal fridges, rape and defecate on the carpet.

jon357
15 Sep 2022  #2596

their life for a greater Russia.

There won't even be a lesser r*SSia by the time this has finished.

I know of all the atrocities that you mention, I just don't think Bobi supports them

He does. He supports r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. To support the fact of that war is to support the fact of that genocide. The two are not separable.

Miloslaw
15 Sep 2022  #2597

There won't even be a lesser r*SSia by the time this has finished.

Putin wanted to go down in history as the great man that saved and protected Russia.
Instead, he will go down in history as the man who destroyed it.

Bobko
15 Sep 2022  #2598

he will go down in history as the man who destroyed it.

If Russia is to be destroyed, then we should take the rest of the world with us. As someone very clever once remarked - "a world without Russia is a world not worth living in".

cms neuf
15 Sep 2022  #2599

Again you are like kids with your threats and Willy waving of your rusty nukes. Pathetic - just like your army, which truly sucks, but at least you have the Syrians and Malians to help out and give you some backbone LOL

Bobko
15 Sep 2022  #2600

@cms neuf

Not threatening anyone, just saying if we are to be "destroyed", it probably won't be what you expected.

cms neuf
15 Sep 2022  #2601

Yes you are threatening - your TV is full of cretins, paid by the state, talking about how many missiles you have got - except the pathetic corrupt military probably sold the detonators to Pakistan long ago

GefreiterKania
15 Sep 2022  #2602

@Bobko

People don't give a toss anymore, Bobi. You can only threaten the world with nuclear destruction as many times. If it comes to that, so be it, but this barbarism has to be stopped.

I think the mood in the West is swinging towards more firm approach to the Russian aggression. And rightly so.

I still hope Putin will be deposed soon, and new Russian government will have enough guts to admit defeat and end this nonsense. If not... Oh, well... :-(

Crnogorac3
15 Sep 2022  #2603

There are also tactical nuclear bombs, which are of "reduced effect", as opposed to strategic ones. The Russians have that too, and such bombs are used on the battlefield, for example, in Yemen, they attacked the Houthis with tactical nukes.

youtu.be/L6Zz2-zJAX4

Just in case, if need be, they have what to hit them with.

Crnogorac3
15 Sep 2022  #2604

Finally, power plants and hydro dams are being hit (should have been done 6 months ago).

Too late, but at least something. I expect tactical nukes soon, it's time. Of course, not on the cities, but on the ukrops, the army, where they pile up. So let's see. NATO asked for a total war, obviously they will get it.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Sep 2022  #2605

NATO asked for a total war, obviously they will get it.

....all Nazis, right?

PolAmKrakow
16 Sep 2022  #2606

@Bobko
Russia is destroying itself. Actions have consequences. It really is just that simple. The Russians in the big cities don't want to die for Russia, they don't even want to fight for Russia. They want their criminal lifestyle to continue and they want their western good back. Russia and Russians wasted the last 30 years and developed nothing of their own to support themselves. Buying from Iran? Partnering up with a group of turd world countries for your economic and strategic group? North Korea? It is like a gang of retards is being formed on the playground to try to take on the Super Bowl Champions.

Yes, Putin has tried to avoid a war with NATO because he knows he can not win. Russia can not even beat Ukraine, taking on NATO would be the end of him. Here we are mid September and Russia has lost a whole lot of ground before winter. They did not have the proper winter equipment in February, what makes them think their summer gear will get them through this coming winter? Even if it is a mild winter, thousands will freeze to death in fox holes.

Xi is already questioning Putin on this and China will not be sending any arms to Russia. If Xi stops supporting Russia through buying discounted oil and gas, Putin may as well off himself. With another 600 Million in military aid announced, the US keeps sending and Ukraine keeps using. It will remain this way until its over. The US military industrial machine is just warming up. Once it is in full operation, probably by the new year, Russian soldiers will have missiles raining down on them like they have never thought possible. Russia will keep digging deeper and deeper into stored away Soviet era equipment until it is all gone. Russia can not produce anything new and eventually they will run out of poor people and criminals to send to the front. How long will that take? Maybe six months. Smart men know when to cut their losses and walk away. Putin could survive this with a negotiated peace, but he wont without it.

mafketis
16 Sep 2022  #2607

If Russia is to be destroyed,

It wasn't "to be destroyed" until putain made the insane decision to invade Ukraine.... by this point there is no way that this ends well for russia....

I put the blame squarely on the russian people for their incomprehensible tsar complex that leaves them (and neighboring countries) vulnerable to the kind of insane ideas that old dictators come up with because there's no peaceful or non-traumatic way of getting a Tsar out of office, you're stuck with him due to your own fecklessness...

"a world without Russia

what would that be like.... hmmmmm


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Kashub1410
16 Sep 2022  #2608

@Crnogorac3
Let me remind you that Ukraine is not a NATO member! You should get it out of your head! A few volunteers from NATO member states doesn't mean it's a NATO operation. That would have involved all it's member states if it was true!

Besides Russians think in too small terms, it's in need to think about something bigger then Poland, Russia or even the E.U!

But Russia doesn't have the stomach for it at the moment. One thing seems to be perfectly noticeable, Russians act very emotionally and instantly. Without self control and lash out at first possible opportunity.

If it comes to Putins mind that there is a claimed that could be pressed. He automatically assume it is being pressed or will be pressed soon enough!

Just like Ukraine has enough legitimacy to claim all of western Russia. Doesn't mean they will do it or had any plans to do it. Yet with how things are going, they might do it just to **** off Russians who knows

jon357
16 Sep 2022  #2609

once remarked - "a world without Russia is a world not worth living in".

Or a better place.

by this point there is no way that this ends well for russia....

It can't end well for them now or even neutrally. Not even "quite badly". They've destroyed their own country and culture.

I expect tactical nukes soon

An act of desperation that would end very badly for r*SSia.

Crnogorac3
16 Sep 2022  #2610

Russia is losing.

Inform me when ukrops take the Donbass but until then don't sweat it people.....

youtu.be/exUCpXmgDhM

youtu.be/7plcfdPommU


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