Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

That is a man either deliberately moving his feet to hide the tremors, his right hand and thumb are also being flexed ever so slightly. Little Vlad is either sick or one nervous little biatch.

Everyone making great points why Russia should simply leave or look for an out. Even the Wagner group is getting wiped out. While flattening the eastern part of Ukraine has been pretty successful, and the killing of civilians has been very successful, they have not achieved a single strategic military goal or earth-shattering win. Now, they want to mess with the water supply in Southeast Ukraine to go after more civilians. That is not a strategy to take land back and make it Russian, it is scorched earth strategy and nothing more. Mental midgets leading Russia. Sound familiar? Been a repeating theme since the Romanaovs.

Another day, another example of just how little russian mothers love their sons (spoiler.... not at all)

twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1626684887561392145

Raised by harpies like this almost makes russia make sense....

Who TF is going to put their c0ck in that pig? Yep, Orcs will fvck anything.

Another day, another example of just how Russian mothers can be patriots, too - just like the Ukrainian mothers. At least, the Russian women make things that go boom. U mothers left their country for a safer place and don't give a fu*ck about what's happening to their sons. Nothing good since it is U that's running out of ammo, not R. Even Poland said so.

Yes, it's all about Minsk, revolution, and NATO, so don't bother with "who invaded whom" righteous indignation.

BTW, what exactly should Russian mothers do to show their love? Break their legs? How about food poisoning?

@Novichok
Its not patriotism when you have no choice. Patriots volunteer, the opposite of what you and Bobko and Velund are.

@PolAm
And you volunteered when and where ?

Protest.

Protest in large enough numbers that they outnumber the police.

Protest like Poles and Ukrainians did in the face of tyranny.

but... sheep don't protest, they just hope in vain that the farmer will lose his taste for mutton stew....

@johnny reb
If Ukraine were my country I would be there. Thanks for asking. If anything happens in Poland I am prepared.

Being drafted and being a patriot is not mutually exclusive. You can be both.
Think before you post.

"If" is the key word there.
So you are no more of a patriot than Novi, Bobko or Velund are.
Only "if".
Got it.

@johnny reb, don't be ridiculous - PolAm isn't Ukrainian (so how could he be a Ukrainian patriot in the first place? lol). Bobko and Velund are, however, RuSSian. Not only that - they support the invasion. So what's stopping them from volunteering?

@Paulina


Don't be ridiculous, PolAm was being a hypocrite.
What stopped PolAm from volunteering when he lived in the U.S. ?


I don't know, I try not to stick my nose in someone else's business to diminish them like you Polaks do to get your nut off nonstop.

Patriot (def.) - a person who acts to protect his tribe.
Moron (def.) - a person who acts to protect other tribes without compensation.
Supermoron (def.) - a person who acts to protect other tribes without compensation while married with children.
Mercenary (def.) - a person who acts to protect other tribes with compensation. See policeman.

Volunteering for what? Was the US getting invaded when he was living there?


I think you do know :) They support the invasion, because they don't have to take part in it :))


We don't do that either until someone else is sticking their nose first - like RuSSians who are invading another country. And since Bobko and Velund support invading our neighbour and they come to a forum about Poland to spread their bullsh1t RuSSian propaganda, then we get to ask them some inconvenient questions :)))

To serve his country which he did not and then turns around calling other people unpatriotic. Simple


So according to you your country needs to be getting invaded to be a patriot by serving in the military ?


I agree about their opinions but not their personal lives.
Look how you go ballistic when someone gets into your personal life. :-)

With the US invading Korea, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan - all approved by the "world" - Russia is on solid ground with its invasion, except better because the enemy is next door instead of 10,000 miles away as was the case with the leader of the free world and its who*res aka "coalition". Poland included.

But I am sure you can explain why Russia should just stand there while the Russians in Donbas and Luhansk are being killed in large numbers. Actually, 14,000.

Do you recall how the US army went to Grenada to protect American students? Quoting:

The US government defended its invasion of Grenada as an action to protect American citizens living on the island, including medical students. Deputy Secretary of State Kenneth W. Dam said that action was necessary to "resolve" what Article 28 of the charter of the Organization of American States (O.A.S.)

But I get it...US - good, Russia - evil, doing the same thing.

@johnny reb
Bobko and Velund are Russians. They are cowards and Bobko is also a traitor hiding in the country that protects him. Novi is just a useful idiot for Russia. Being a patriot is volunteering. Reporting when drafted is not breaking the law. Big difference. If ever I was asked, if the US were at war, I would have gone and would have done it without being drafted. If ever the US were invaded I would have stayed and fought. Do not speculate about me without asking me directly.

Yes, it is required to be at war to answer these questions because Ukraine and Russia are at war. Pull your heads out of your a$$es before talking. You start to sound like little Vlad.

Exactly. Good reasoning.

Yes, of course. During peacetime there's no reason for all men to serve in the military. Who would be doing their jobs? Women? Millions of immigrants? lol


That's because Velund and Bobko support this invasion from the comfort of their own homes. They don't get to experience the results of their support - all the death, destruction and trauma.


They don't even respect the right to live for Ukrainians, so why would I have any respect for their personal lives? They don't deserve it.

In Korea and Vietnam the US was fighting against the commies who were supported by the Soviet Union so they were evening the odds. Ask the South Koreans if they mind the fact that they were "invaded" by the US :)

The US didn't invade Syria.
I was against the invasion of Iraq, so I get to call out RuSSia for invading Ukraine.
RuSSia supported the invasion of Afghanistan by the US.


Actually, that's what RuSSia was doing :) For 8 years! Didn't you ever wonder... why?
Also, noone would be getting killed there if RuSSia didn't invade Ukraine in 2014 in the first place. RuSSia started it all.

Wow, you are intellectually tossing those Ams around like rag dolls. :):):)

The US was fighting against a national liberation movement, they replaced the French as the colonial power.

For a country (Syria) that the US never invaded they sure have a lot of occupiers there

@Barney, South Koreans seem pretty liberated to me :))) North Koreans, however... don't strike me as very "free" people.


What do you mean? Assad rules over Syria (not all of it, but still). He probably wouldn't if it wasn't for RuSSia's support - his own people would bring down his regime.

Again....so when did you volunteer for military service ?
All we hear here is a bunch of "if's" and "I would have's".
Three if's and three would haves in your last post.
You sound like the guy sitting at the end of the bar after drinking six beers.


I did ask you directly, remember ? Post #756

You are giving them veritable hell, indeed. :):):)

@Paulina
There is no point expanding the topic, however there are a lot of US soldiers in Syria when there shouldn't be.

The point about Vietnam is that the US was fighting a colonial war against a national liberation movement that had overwhelming support which is why the US prevented the promised reunification referendum from being held.

Edit
If your point is that the US is always correct and can invade at will just say so, if not please explain

It's good to have a sane person like Barney here. Is he a Russian bot, or an orc troll too? I think he's Irish. Those Irish are weird. Their president said something really off key about Ukraine this year, and got clobbered for it.

You are ducking my question which was, "So according to you your country needs to be getting invaded to be a patriot by serving in the military ?"


As does PolAm sitting in some bar in Poland conversing with real Americans soldiers who have witnessed and smelled death.


You like playing judge, jury and executioner with your personal opinions don't you.
If you have never served, and I sure the hell doubt you have, then you shouldn't be diminishing others who haven't either.
Nothing worse than hypocritical Polish busybodies that insist on playing the shame game.

@Bobko
Yes I'm Irish and have a soft spot for Slavic culture.

1. How do you know?
2. I'm sure that, if there are any there, then there are far less of them than there are/were RuSSian soldiers. Should RuSSian soldiers be there?


The US was fighting a global war against the commies. Vietnam was just part of that war.

Barney, are you a leftist by any chance?


Of course not. I already wrote in my previous comment that I was against the invasion of Iraq. I just don't lump everything together, because not every situation is the same.