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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



cms neuf
31 Jan 2023  #61

Considering the Ukies are easily matching your drunk army then what they want matters the same as what Russian Nazis want.

If it is proxy war when it is between the US and Iran - Russia is now a client state of Teheran

Novichok
31 Jan 2023  #62

Like the first artificial satellite, the first man in space and so on?

...the fastest fighter planes, the most reliable assault rifles, and the world's best chess players...

This is an issue now between Washington and Moscow, not Moscow and Kiev.

I was wrong in claiming it's a European war. This is an American war with Euros, and especially Poland, as useful idiots.

pawian
31 Jan 2023  #63

kind to Poland

No need for it. Remember, we are American lapdogs who will do anything on condition it is aimed against Russia. hahahaha
However, I hope you won`t be mad and hold it against us cos this is our natural character, sth we suck with our mummy`s milk as babies. hahahaha

GefreiterKania
31 Jan 2023  #64

I was trying to be kind to Poland.

No need to. We are genetically evolved to expect enemies all around us (after all, we spent most of our history being stuck between Russia and Germany), so when somebody is being kind to us, we treat it with suspicion. That's why we love espana - the greatest Poland hater in the known universe. :)

EDIT:

No need for it.

You beat me to it, Pawian.

EDIT 2:

sth we suck with our mummy`s milk

Not me though. I still kinda like Russia in general, for some reason. I must visit my family doctor - maybe there are some pills for it. ;)

GefreiterKania
31 Jan 2023  #65

Bobko, which was your intention out of three?

Good question. He's in America, raking it in, so that's not 5 zł. He's straight, so that's not sex; and he's definitely not crazy. Hmmm... the plot thickens.

You will stop liking it when you meet and talk to a Russian general who leads his troops.

I don't like Russian generals - they can go directly na chuj. Russia herself, however, still possesses some sort of poetic attraction to me. Oh, well... maybe it will pass.

GefreiterKania
31 Jan 2023  #66

to make a little more gentle the life of this world... with a kind word

See what I mean, Pawian? Is that poetic or what? Russians are in general poetic people but when too many of them get together in one place, they tend to do rather unpoetic things. One of the mysteries of this world.

pawian
31 Jan 2023  #67

the savageness of your nature;

Stop projecting Russian traits onto us. HA!

when too many of them get together in one place, they tend to do rather unpoetic things

Yes, they drink and destroy everything around. Then they sit down to sober down and write poetry about this destruction. That is what some Westerners call Russian madness and are even fascinated with it.

I have never found it fascinating.

mafketis
31 Jan 2023  #68

Could you please stop that?

No. I'm not writing about Germany (a completely different case, stop projecting).

russia is the enemy and engaged in attempted genocide (anyone who didn't understand that after Bucha and Mariupol is either an idiot or supports genocide).

I'm not going to be civil to anyone who thinks that what russia is doing is civil.

Stop fraternizing with the enemy, they are not 'nice guys' or 'not so bad' they are both enthusiastically supportive of killing Ukrainian civilians and kidnapping Ukrainian children.

It's not something can agree to disagree about.

Bobko
31 Jan 2023  #69

both enthusiastically supportive of killing Ukrainian civilians and kidnapping Ukrainian children.

Where have I, or Velund, expressed any joy over the killing of Ukrainian civilians?

I have, however, seen you guys being very joyful about artillery strikes on Donetsk, or in the areas around Belgorod.

No, we may call them Polonized swines, or American satraps, but we do not cheer their deaths.

GefreiterKania
31 Jan 2023  #70

only people in the world that can approach any level of understanding of that mix of melancholy, heroism, and fatalism that creates Polishness, are... Russians.

It is most likely true, as well as disquieting on many levels.

who thinks that what russia is doing is civil

I don't think there's anyone here who thinks that (not even Novi).

Polonized swines

Strange phrase - the adjective sounds like a compliment whilst the noun seems to be an insult.

Bobko
31 Jan 2023  #71

Strange phrase - the adjective sounds like a compliment whilst the noun seems to be an insult

Strange indeed. What do you make of it?

Crnogorac3
31 Jan 2023  #72

Here is some "Russian propaganda". People do not want to die for corrupt actors and depraved neo-nazis who were metastasized by the trauma from the Polish occupation of Ukraine 300 years ago.

Mobilization in Ukraine

twitter.com/runews/status/1619257590378274816

They order food, then to the delivery guy hand over a summons for mobilization.

t.me/denazi_UA/35134

GefreiterKania
31 Jan 2023  #73

stop romanticizing

I can't. I'm Polish.

that makes us a great power!"

Surely there has to be more than that. Life is not that simple.

Nobody here supports what Russia does to Ukraine, Maf. Relax. We're just philosophising, poeticising and romanticising - that's what Slavs (except the Czechs) do in their free time.

*off to catch some z's*

pawian
31 Jan 2023  #74

melancholy, heroism, and fatalism that creates Polishness

Wrong!! You are again projecting Russian traits on us. We are not melancholy, we are only suspicious and unfriendly until we get to know sb better. Ha!

And certainly fatalism isn`t our trait coz enthusiastic Poles have always believed they are able to shape their life and future with their own effort and perseverance even despite overwhelming circumstances - hence, so many Risings. The loss of most of them wasn`t fatalism but just bad luck.

Russians are fatalistic people coz you never endevour to change evil things around you but accept them as inevitable. The stereotypical Russian soul is fatalistic, so attractive to some Westerners. As I said, not to me.

I can't. I'm Polish.

:):):)
Exactly. Instead of fatalistic and melancholic as Bobko suggests, we are incorrigible enthusiastic romantics. :):):)

Crnogorac3
31 Jan 2023  #75

youtu.be/loVtI_7xRHw

2023.01.31 The Ukraine Conflict - A Primer

Miloslaw
31 Jan 2023  #76

Russia has lost this war.
Get over it!

Novichok
31 Jan 2023  #77

I have, however, seen you guys being very joyful about artillery strikes on Donetsk,

...and let's not forget "orcs for dog food" about the people who were drafted and had no say so in anything - as opposed to the volunteer Western armies proudly killing Iraqi and Afhjani women and kids because 19 Saudis the US has trained flew planes into tall buildings 10,000 miles away.

Russia has lost this war.

When did Russia sign the capitulation documents? Or are you now into Polish metaphors...

Miloslaw
31 Jan 2023  #78

Where have I, or Velund, expressed any joy over the killing of Ukrainian civilians?

To be fair, I can't recall either of you doing that.

we may call them Polonized swines, or American satraps, but we do not cheer their deaths.

That may apply to you and Velund but not to many of your compatriots who celebrate every Ukrainian death.

Russians are brainwashed ,ignorant vassels of a gangster state.

And the sooner intelligent people like you and Velund understand that, the better for the Russian people.

Novichok
1 Feb 2023  #79

The nonsense of NATO revealed again...Quoting:

EU state's president urges NATO to cross more 'Russian red lines'
Kiev should get Western fighter jets and longer-range missiles, Lithuania's Gitanas Nauseda has declared.


So a little poodle, Lithuania, is egging NATO - aka the US - to cross "Russian red lines". This moron is, of course, fully aware that if his idiotic idea does not play out as intended it will the US left to do all the heavy lifting, not the little Euro cockroach.

I hope that one day Europe will be just a big hole in the ground.

cms neuf
1 Feb 2023  #80

Who cares about your red lines ? They are as relevant to us as the price of sugar ar Kostya's crappy shop (if he can get any that is, you might need to swap a pack of AAA batteries and 100g of grey fatty ham).

NATO can cross as many of your "red lines" as they feel like - there is nothing your POS alcoholic military can do about it

Novichok
1 Feb 2023  #81

Who cares about your red lines ?

If learn how to read things with care you would catch it that those are not my red lines.
"Russian red lines" is the term used by the Lithuanian cockroach.

there is nothing your POS alcoholic military can do about it

My "POS alcoholic military" is currently protecting your Polish asses and is known as the US Army.

Novichok
1 Feb 2023  #82

Reading the "democratic" press is so revealing. I didn't know, for example. that only Russia has war casualties. Quoting daily mail:

Putin will not dare use nuclear weapons on Ukraine, Zelensky advisor says after military chiefs claimed 180,000 Russian troops have been killed or wounded during invasion

How the Ukrainians manage to go unscathed is truly amazing. Then there is this about Putin being cold and heartless:

EXCLUSIVE - 'Putin couldn't give a s**t about his people dying': War in Ukraine is set to be 'much longer and bloodier' with 'the world economy thrown into chaos', former head of the Royal Navy warns

By implication, Z cares deeply. So much that thanks to the miracle of great planning and tactics, his troops suffer no casualties. See above.

I am really impressed...Wow...

GefreiterKania
1 Feb 2023  #83

Reading the "democratic" press is so revealing. (...) How the Ukrainians manage to go unscathed is truly amazing.

The best way to avoid being discomposed by the lack of journalistic integrity these days is widening our reading spectrum (even if it might involve using a proxy gate). So, even if I'm 100% pro-Ukraine, I still grab an issue of "Myśl Polska" sometimes. My form teacher at highschool always told us: "if you are rightist in your political leanings, make sure you read "Trybuna" and "Przegląd" every now and then; if you are leftist - grab "Najwyższy Czas" from time to time - don't close yourself in an intellectual and political ghetto, always see what the other side has to say (even if only to make sure you still disagree with them)". The more time passes from my matura exam (and it's been quite a while), the more I appreciate the wisdom of this man. Professor Stefański - if you are reading this, THANK YOU. :)

PolAmKrakow
1 Feb 2023  #84

@GefreiterKania
Great advice for reading everywhere in the world. Not reading both sides is what causes problems, not understanding both sides is what causes wars.

I know Novi doesn't like the "dog food" comments, and that's why I use them. Stupid analogies get stupid comments. Can we be friends Novi?

Meanwhile in the real war, in real events, the US is going to announce another 2 billion in aid for Ukraine. Don't look now all you little Orc lovers, but longer-range missiles are in this package. These new weapons will easily have the range to hit Crimea from Kherson. Some of these new weapons can evade most of the Orcs air defenses as well. Imagine Pavel on his way to work at the ammunition dump in Crimea on Monday morning and it goes BOOM! LMFAO Happy gulag biatches!

mafketis
1 Feb 2023  #85

"orcs for dog food" about the people who were drafted and had no say so in anything

They could say no. They could refuse to go to the front. I don't care what happens to any russian soldier in Ukraine.... if they all have to be killed... then so be it.

cms neuf
1 Feb 2023  #86

They could have refused or mutinied. But that's not so easy when your parents are hoping for a new bicycle in return for your life.

mafketis
1 Feb 2023  #87

could have refused or mutinied

makes no sense whose advice is always "surrender!"

PolAmKrakow
1 Feb 2023  #88

Now it looks as though little Vlad's conscripts from the Autumn are prepared to be sent to the front lines. Reports are that the Orc's now have winter gear, and armor plating for vests to send another 150,000 to die in Ukraine. Reports are also suggesting that with the "joint training" exercises in Belarus being extended for another week, that Belarus may be forced by Putin to enter the fight.

If Belarus enters this war with their own troops, you can bet there will be a NATO response. I think this is little Vlad trying to put Belarus in the crosshairs for a change. It looks like things are about to get very heavy before the spring and the Orcs are trying to beat the arrival of all the new tanks.

mafketis
1 Feb 2023  #89

Interesting thread from one of the few honorable and honest russians around on a recent video by RT head and lover of censorship Simonyan....

twitter.com/betelgeuse1922/status/1620738546243088390

shorter version: She's speaking directly to putain to convince him not give up, she (and her ilk) desperately need the war to continue because they know that nothing good awaits them at its end, yet the war is already lost.... can anyone imagine that the russian army which struggles to take a small town/village can prevail over a larger, better army supplied by NATO?

Yet rather than surrender she's willing to send how many more tens (or hundreds) of thousands of russians to their deaths to avoid the consequences of her own evil....

PolAmKrakow
1 Feb 2023  #90

@mafketis
When little Vlad order another partial, or likely a full mobilization before summer, only two things can happen. Russia has to totally collapse and Vlad is done or dead, or Russian people will need to overthrow the government. A full mobilization would bring long range weapons and planes from NATO for sure.

Watching this Belarus situation closely. Belarus puppet president lips are moving but Putin's hand is up his a$$.


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