Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

or historical Polish city.

Or that Manila is a historical American city or that Venice is a historical Austrian city or that Mogadishu was a hstsorical Omani city..

Every country that had the ability to have a colony had one. The only countries that didn't were those that were unable. Poland once controlled territory that went from the Baltic to the Black Sea.

Those days are gone now, and the fact that Muscovy once occupied Poland against the will of its inhabitants is an irrelevance now.

And any minute now Novi will come along and claim Hanoi, Bagdad and a whole host of other cities could be claimed as US. LMFAO Russia has lost 150 tanks and armored personnel carriers alone outside of Bakhmut. Russian tanks are now being called slow cookers. LMAO

Fascinating that Russia haa apparantly managed to loose more than 100 tanks in the Vuledar. One wonders how they'll perform once the Leos and Challengers arrive.

We could claim that one too, as could Turkey and God knows who else.

It's irredentism. r*SSia needs to realise that the age of Empires is over. Ours was largely economic with administration following that, China's is entirely economic (though the Tibetans and Ughyurs would disagree) and we're moving to the age of "soft power".

No wonder the Ukrainians, the Georgians and anyone else who was under their malign thumb wanted to get away.


It's easy to lose a tank. Easier yet when they're bogged down deep in mud which the Challengers and Leopards won't be due to higher ground clearance.

Readers' opinions don't need sources. You are free to evaluate them as written.
We are doing it here every day. For example, I read what Russia haters say without sourcing and formed my own opinion that they are idiots. Like that Putin is "tyrant".

Now little Vlad calling an alleged attack inside Russia a terrorist attack. Because alleged women and children were in the line of fire! Every attack Russia has made then is a terrorist attack by his standards. I say alleged because there is no proof of any attack, no video, no photos. Just more Putinazi bull$hit.

Btw, what's the deal with Armata? Has it already been successfully towed to any frontline?

Still haven't answered my question (not that I expected you too.... you're stuck in denial and refuse to budge toward reality). Sad really, the very elderly find it very difficult to assimilate new information and remain mired in past delusions....

Orcs can't even do a proper false flag.
UA could do this everyday and somehow they decided to go over the border today to shoot some orc civ and achieve nothing but tarnish their reputation. Sounds as believable as a "ruzzian truth".

Past delusions are better than future delusions...

Like that C, D, and L will ever be part of Ukraine and not under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation.

At least the Russian government didn't invite them. Our government invites criminals and drugs that kill 100,000 Americans every year.
Just to keep things in perspective. A good perspective view is good for you.

I'd ask myself a question, does Russia winning the war make things better in that regard?
Russia winning or losing in Ukraine does jackshit in that front.
On the other hand, PiS literally refused to take in 10k refugees from Syria that PO promised to take in, and EU could grumble at most.

The UK, the world's best informational black hole has this garbage publication that Pravda could only try to match..Quoting from the Sun:

VLAD'S MEAT-GRINDER Russian death toll in Ukraine passes 150,000 as Putin's canon fodder mown down in suicidal infantry waves & tank carnage

Straight from PAK's playbook...I mean that "meat-grinder". Nevertheless, I decided to read to see how "democratic" and presumably honest Western publication reports things.

To my continuing amazement, only Russians are dying. Not a word about the meat grinder grinding Ukrainians. So started thinking about why it is so and came up with the following:

1. Ukrainians are inherently immune and metal parts just go through them like in the Arnold S. movies.
2. Russians don't know how to shoot
3. Russians know how to shoot but prefer to shoot each other
4. Russian ammo are blanks
5. Dead "Ukrainians" are actually Russians and don't count.

Any other reasons why war casualties are exclusively Russian? Somebody should investigate this miracle while forensic evidence is still uncontaminated.

@Novichok
New dish in Ukraine is the Lavrov Roast. You take 4 Orcs, put them in a Russian slow cooker (tank), send them out into the field, wait for Ukraine soldiers to blow the top off the slow cooker, and 30 minutes later your Lavrov is fresh and ready. Ukraine dogs and cats are just loving it.

Meanwhile in Russia, the Bryansk region is under the control of law enforcement agencies after the fvcked up false flag orchestrated by Putin. Law enforcement is said to be banging all the local Russian wh0res who have been slated for export to Poland to help fund the war effort in a way of bypassing sanctions. Unfortunately the women have been denied visa's due to aids infections, and are now being sent to Palatine Illinois to work with the aging and mindless.

Before I try your recipe, how would you explain Ukrainian immortality? See Post 1184.

OK, I got it. When cooked, they taste like sh*it and Russians prefer army rations.

Chinese peace plan: Can Beijing find a way to end the Russia-Ukraine conflict, despite open hostility from the US and NATO?
Moscow and Kiev have conditionally welcomed the intervention, but the latter's chief patrons appear to be bitterly opposed

I am shocked that others are shocked by US hostility to the Chinese peace plan. Come on, guys...How the hell do you make money when nobody is shooting?

@Novichok

Did I not describe what the sequence of events would be, weeks ago, without actually knowing any details?

China will propose a plan. America will sh!t on it. China will then feel its hands are untied.

It was Russia who started the shooting. I will repeat once again, as always and ad nauseam - it was RUSSIA who started this bloody war. Not NATO. Not America. Not Ukraine. Russia. Just in case you still didn't get it, I will spell the word for you:

R - U - S - S - I - A.

They amassed the troops at Ukrainian borders, lied to everyone that it's just military exercise, and then cowardly, without declaring war, like Hitler in 1939, invaded.

@everyone else on this forum

I apologise for writing the above, but this guy needs to have this repeated to him everyday, because he still refuses to acknowledge it.

Let me help you with your perverted Euro logic. The entire concept of self-defense is based on the idea that YOU SHOOT FIRST. Dead men don't do it very well and tend to miss their targets.

Only in the stupid movies for kids, the hero is obligated to wait until the perp fires and, of course, misses.

Very well. If you enjoy hearing/reading the same thing over and over again:

Nobody. Was. Going. To. Invade. Russia. Not-f*cking-ever. Because they have nuclear weapons that they would be entirely entitled to use in self-defense after being invaded. That's why NATO wasn't going to invade Russia. That's why America wasn't going to invade Russia. And that's why Ukraine - sure as hell - wasn't going to invade Russia.

There you are. I can copy/paste that for you everyday if you want.

A Nostradamus with a Ph.D. degree in psychology from Novi University.
Yes, you did and that's why I read your posts and skip typical PF crap.


As predicted...


You need a better definition of "invade". Are the illegal foreign scum pouring in "an invasion"? Are the thousands of Chinese spies we invite "an invasion"?

Were the US troops in Iraq an invasion?

Oh, yeah? So, tell me geniuses and prophets: after the USA shat on the plan and China's hands became "untied" what exactly did China do about it? :) I'll give you a hint: China did exactly what China is doing at the moment and exactly what China will do in the future. It starts with "noth" and ends with "ing". China will follow their usual course of action of: "playing go instead of chess", "planning 1000 years ahead", "waiting quietly by the river bank for your enemies bodies", "500 years is to short a period to judge what has to be done" blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda.

Waiting for China to do something is a bit like waiting for... well... I can't even find a suitable simile. :D


All this is galactically irrelevant. We are discussing Russian invasion of Ukraine and the impossibility of Russia being invaded. Stay on topic.

Kania, Kania.... China is not just a bystander. It's getting sanctioned in parallel. America is choking it of access to any and all relevant technologies. If China is not foolish, it will intervene before it is too late. Russians know how to be in debt, and we know the meaning of loyalty. We also know what it means to be left high and dry. The Chinese are under pressure from two fires. If they want our friendship, our loyalty, then their window of opportunity is closing.

We don't need fair weather friends, we can finish the job ourselves - at greater cost perhaps. Then, the Chinese will be left to their own devices. In all of this planet they will not find a better ally than Russia - ask the USA or Britain.

How long will it take for it to close? If it's less than 1000 years then maybe, just maybe, they will make a swift move take the opportunity. ;)

Anyway, I understand that Russia is desperate for friends these days, but the Chinese will squeeze you like a lemon, treat you like a cheap gas station (they already do in fact) and then discard you like a used toy. This will only be a short episode in their 100000000000 year strategy plan.

One thing they will definitely NOT do is they will not go to war with the West over Russia (and most certainly not over Ukraine), so your hopes, I'm afraid, are vain.

I'm sure the Chinese are hoping that supplying weapons does not automatically mean being at war with the West. Just as the West, seems to hope, that supplying weapons that kill Russians do not put them in conflict with Russia.

@GefreiterKania
I gave up on entertaining that ancient fossil, stinks too much.

@Bobko
War is the top of the iceberg of conflicts, there are many stages. If they think it won't have any effect, one doesn't have to look further then Iran.

Bobko, do you honestly think Russian leadership will be able to swallow their pride? Or has it become the very beast it wants to destroy

Even the economic war with the West is something that China fears enough not to risk it. Besides, Russian defeat in the war against Ukraine will make Russia even weaker and easier prey for the Chinese "go players".

Anyway, I don't want to kill the last hope in you (that would be cruel), so maybe the Chinese will help you. Not very likely, but maybe.

If by debasing ourselves we can show you a different flavor of life, why not? You underestimate the depth of Russian resentment.

@GefreiterKania
So far I have noticed them grabbing Russian spheres of influence, even if we were to be positive for Russia. What is it that China will bring in practice? Smiles until Russia is fully Co-erced by them? U.S.A hopes to gain Russia through a settlement on to their side, but I think Russian stubbornness will push them to Pekin