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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1141

And now prigozhin says the russian armed forces have launched missile attacks on wagner pmc camps....

twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672309306971025408

Girkin (author of the 2014 invasion) thinks a military coup might be in the offing....

twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1672309791534850049

heatin' up? theater? wazzup?

Velund
23 Jun 2023  #1142

wazzup?

Keep calm. It is not your business. If this will concern you, you'll be notified by a bright light to your window and a shockwave in a short time.

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1143

you'll be notified by a bright light

always with the threats.... crazy, no good russians don't know how to convince, just to threaten.... nasty people from a nasty culture.... blechhhh

vlad vexler has thoughtss that are similar to many others.... too soon to know what's going on....

it might be some kind of diversion to distract people while russia commits another massive war crime (since they have no hope of winning any kind of conventional conflict with their ragtag 'army'....)

it reflect a power struggle or it might be offering the little putain an out: you're a good tsar but you've been betrayed by those closest to you!

russia is a nest of vipers, best viewed from a distance (and fenced off from civilized people).

Novichok
23 Jun 2023  #1144

Girkin (author of the 2014 invasion) thinks a military coup might be in the offing....

A military coup might be in the offing...
Russia might be losing...
Ukraine might be winning...
Those in the video might be Ukrainians pretending to be Russians...

youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM

cms neuf
23 Jun 2023  #1145

Udmurtia is losing And they have no path to victory - they can't move troops within range of the Himars and eventually the sanctions and poor morale will defeat them

Did you see the Udmurtian "soldiers" in that video ? precisely the sort of alcoholic derelicts you encounter every morning at the tram stop in the way to the troll farm.

Alien
23 Jun 2023  #1146

he tram stop in the way to the troll farm

Do you mean our russian trolls?

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1147

Border between DPR and Rostov closed?

twitter.com/Worldsource24/status/1672351722155458561

tanks on the streets of rostov (supposedly lots of helicopters flying around too)

twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1672351646104408072

Meanwhile... in Ukraine.... 8 explosions in Melitopol...

twitter.com/dennisdesmond19/status/1672340943704412161

russians killing each other around Bakhmut...

twitter.com/GrandAnna19/status/1672352830521212928

Some russian tv channels hacked and playing Prigozhin propaganda...

twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672347195209555969

Interestinger and interestinger....

Paulina
23 Jun 2023  #1148

@maf, wow... Where is my popcorn... lol

thisisfun

Miloslaw
23 Jun 2023  #1149


Great post!
@maf, wow... Where is my popcorn... lol

Yeah,Russia has already lost this war.....it's just a question of time......and then Putin will go.....probably violently,which is the Russian way.

Bratwurst Boy
23 Jun 2023  #1150

Putsch????

Twitter is spinning....but also SPIEGEL and BILD are reporting.....Putin against Prigoschin.....FSB military in Rostow seen....

FSB warns of civil war

bild.de/politik/2023/politik/prigoschins-irre-behauptung-russland-soll-wagner-gruppe-bombardiert-haben-84443220.bild.html

The Wagner boss accuses Moscow of having bombed its fighters. He announces that he wants to "stop" "evil". Now the FSB is reacting.

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-news-jewgenij-prigoschin-veroeffentlicht-droh-videos-russischer-geheimdienst-fsb-eroeffnet-strafverfahren-a-6b008c1b-af69-4904-b267-7e34b5eefd33

Wow!

Bratwurst Boy
23 Jun 2023  #1151

#Breaking: Just in - Heightened alert has been called in #Moscow, #Rostov, #Belgorod, #Russia, as multiple armored military vehicles have been seen driving in Rostov.

twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1672344685044543488

....with pics!

#Breaking: Just in - Unconfirmed reports says that the roads in and out of #Moscow, #Russia have been temporary closed and that checkpoints are being placed after Wagner group boss #Prigozhin, called for a militant upring in Russia as he claims that Russia deliberate targeted a camp full of Wagner his mercenaries forces with a missile strike in occupied #Ukraine.

Ironside
23 Jun 2023  #1152

Nicely flaten

Velund
23 Jun 2023  #1153

with the threats....

Not threats but just a facts constatation.
If this is internal problems, it is not your busuness, we will manage to solve it. If this is external attempt to destabilisation and changing political power structure in Russia - just keep in mind that "Perimeter" system will be activated automatically if such attempt will be too close to success.

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1154

If this is internal problems, it is not your busuness, we will manage to solve it.

Their fake pity and concern for Russia make me want to puke.

changing political power structure in Russia

Few things are more irritating to the Western bootlickers than a lack of gratitude for their attempts to give others their Soros NGOs, "revolutions", and "democracy".

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1155

What happened between the Wagner group and the Russians??? Once besties.....

The army moving in Rostow...

twitter.com/clowdestino/status/1672400415776731141/video/2

....meanwhile empty streets in Moscow

twitter.com/josetv4020/status/1672400408159965184

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1156

TANKS ARRIVING TO MOSCOW

twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1672356662693228544

Reports indicate that they are arriving to secure the Parliament (the Duma).

Russian military leaders urge Prigozhin to stop his 'march for justice' as Moscow beefs up security

kyivindependent.com/generals-urge-prigozhin-to/

Russian military leaders appealed to the Wagner Group in the early hours of June 24 to stand down following a video statement in which Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin called the Russian military leadership "evil" and vowed a "march for justice."

In a video message, Deputy Commander of Russian forces in Ukraine, Sergei Surovikin, holding what appears to be a rifle, urged Wagner troops to obey the president and not to turn on the Russian military. "You need to stop your columns and return them to their positions," he pleaded.

In another video appeal, Lieutenant General Vladimir Alekseev, first deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces, called any actions against the Russian state a "stab in the back of the country and president" and a "coup d'etat," saying "come to your senses!"....


WTF? Did Putin forget to pay Prigoshin?

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1157

WTF? Did Putin forget to pay Prigoshin?

No. Pri forgot to stay in his lane.
The idea of a private army is cute as well as ridiculous.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1158

....Prigoshin was already very grumpy for awhile now! That makes me abit suspicious about all that "The Russians killed my men today" - talk.

My theory is the CIA is behind that....they managed to turn him! They promised him impunity, money, asylum...whatever...

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1159

They promised him impunity, money, asylum...whatever...

...and Putin's job after a revolution.
Stupidly, Russia abolished the death penalty.

Changing subjects...

Russia praises Obama's words on Crimea
The former US president acknowledged that many residents on the peninsula felt Moscow supported their interests in 2014


"There's a reason why there was not an armed invasion of Crimea [in 2014], because Crimea was full of a lot of Russian speakers," the former US leader told CNN's Christiane Amanpour, adding that "there was some sympathy to the view that Russia was representing its interests."

Memo to Russia-hating PF idiots: Crimean referendum did reflect the will of the people. Eat sh*it.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1160

....you know....when Russia loses the Crimeans will lose too...being a distrusted ethnical minority never pays out well....ask Germans!

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1161

All that misery because Europe doesn't have a common language.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1162

....I've heard Poles don't like Deutsch! :)

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1163

I would agree to have Esperanto as long as it's one common language.

Seriously, wars of attrition are bullsh*it. Today, with TV, pics, and a 30-second attention span, we have no patience for Leningrad-style slow death. In that sense, the US is right: hit them with all the power you have, kill as many as you can, and time will take care of the rest so you will never have to apologize.

Putin went nice and slow....A very bad idea I have been consistently against from day one.

Slow brutality is torture. Shock-and-awe saves lives. It saved Paris.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1164

Depends on your objective....Ukraine is a proxy war for the new world order....Nato/West against Russia/China....you don't want a destroyed dead territory but an asset, new allies, enrichment, enlargement, that kind of thing.

Hitler just wanted to eliminate as many of those "Untermenschen" as possible...would he had tried a more slow, less deadly strategy he might have even won. The sympathies were there in the beginning...

Oh boy....did they have to putsch in the middle of the night? There will be a very tired Bratwurst come morning....

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1165

when he had tried a more slowly, people friendly strategy he might have even won.

Most wars have two phases: campaign and occupation. To succeed, the first phase must be fast and brutal to make them fold. Occupation can be tolerable for a long time if tempered. See France.

My family actually had a small business and prospered under German occupation before the AK idiots decided to have that stupid uprising.

Just as the US+CIA organized the 2014 revolution, Putin should simply undo it by flattening Kiev if necessary. Plus a reward for Z's head.

Every mongoose knows to go for the snake's head to win quickly.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jun 2023  #1166

Putin should simply undo it by flattening Kiev if necessary

Maybe he just CAN'T? Did you ever think about that? Outside of nukes he lacks the means to flatten Kiev? And now without the Wagner troops....very interesting.

Anyhow, I need to shut my eyes for awhile, take care! :)

Novichok
24 Jun 2023  #1167

I didn't mean the whole city. Just the parts where the snake and his buddies hide. Sorry about that exaggeration.
My point is that if the US can manage to organize a revolution to go from A to B, Putin should be able to convince Ukraine to go from B to A without much bloodshed.

Paulina
24 Jun 2023  #1168

....Prigoshin was already very grumpy for awhile now! That makes me abit suspicious about all that "The Russians killed my men today" - talk.

It doesn't seem very suspicious considering that this conflict/rivalry/power struggle between Prigozhin and Shoigu, the Wagner Group and the RuSSian army has been taking place for quite some time now:

(2018):

warsawinstitute.org/shoigus-revenge/

cnn.com/2023/02/23/europe/russia-ukraine-yevgeny-prigozhin-wagner-campaign-intl-cmd/index.html

WTF? Did Putin forget to pay Prigoshin?

I have no idea what's going on, to be honest... This is RuSSia we're talking about, so my head is spinning with conspiracy theories lol

crazycountry

;D

mafketis
24 Jun 2023  #1169

My family actually had a small business and prospered under German occupation

nazi collaborators!

US+CIA organized the 2014 revolution

I'll take "Things stupid people say" for 500, Alex.

mafketis
24 Jun 2023  #1170

A few days ago generalsvr said that a decision had been made to "finally resolve" the prigozhin situation.

Then yesterday priggy said the russian armed forces had attacked his men and things escalated...

Now putain has given a speech (without mentioning priggy's name) accusing him of treason etc etc boring putain talk... (oddly he wasn't beaming).

summary of the speech...

twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1672499796580466688

I'm still entertaining the possibility that this is partly/largely a set up to allow putain a face-saving measure to withdraw from parts/most of occupied Ukraine (generalsvr has talked previously about such scenarios).

a fun show, for the time being....

in other news: my new nickname for prigozhin is 'priggy' and I encourage everyone friend and foe alike to join me in this


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