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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Novichok
22 Jun 2023  #1111

putain is a purveyor of misery and all who support him share in his ghastly crimes against his countrymen....

Can you post the link?

I googled "putain is a purveyor of misery" and got nothing.

mafketis
22 Jun 2023  #1112

Can you post the link?

I sure can! look right here:

twitter.com/Lyla_lilas/status/1669280735679709186

what kind of garbage dumpster of a country has soldiers that look like that?

what kind of dogsh!t pile of a country turns people like this loose because they were in a war?

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1671679758705524737?cxt=HHwWgoDUvcb4_7IuAAAA

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1671638891974250497?cxt=HHwWgsDSzeWt7bIuAAAA

the answer begins with r and rhymes with hush-a

for all your love of russia.... somehow you're not anxious to move (despite their plans to set up settlements just for people like you....)

why not? what are you free to do in the US that you wouldn't be free to do in russia?

Bobko
22 Jun 2023  #1113

Russian news reported earlier that Shoigu has informed Putin re: progress on forming reserves. Shoigu has assured Putin that the task will be completed by the end of June.

In terms of size, it's stated as: "an army corps, an army, plus a further 5 tank regiments." To me this seems a little much, and I'm not sure I'm reading this correctly, or if it was just phrased idiotically.

Quote:

Формируем резервы в составе армейского корпуса, армии, плюс к этому пять полков 20-й армии танковой. Там идет все планово. Фактически до конца июня мы завершим формирование резервной армии и там в ближайшее время завершим формирование армейского корпуса

Russian field armies have gone through lots of evolution over the years, but should still - at a minimum - contain 2-3 divisions. A Russian army corps has also changed a lot, but should include at least 2-3 brigades. A Russian tank regiment should contain 3 tank battalions (with about 30 tanks in each).

So the reserves could be 50-60K people (very rough estimate), and 500 or so tanks and heavy armor.

Source: pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/06/22/7408008/index.amp

Apparently, 3,700 "new" weapons have been allocated to equip these reserves. This would make some sense, since we know things like the T-90 are being produced in large numbers, but have only seen very few of them at the front.

The presence of such powerful formations in reserve could significantly impact Ukraine's calculus around its offensive. Scrapping the offensive and preparing for the defense could be prudent.

Novichok
22 Jun 2023  #1114

twitter.com/Lyla_lilas/status/1669280735679709186

Nothing about "putain is a purveyor of misery".
You want to give it another try?

Scrapping the offensive and preparing for the defense could be prudent.

Are you now advising the enemy?

mafketis
22 Jun 2023  #1115

Nothing about "putain is a purveyor of misery".

My commentary, hoe.

Learn to read or your pimp daddy finna slap you up!

Bobko
22 Jun 2023  #1116

Are you now advising the enemy?

Just saying what is prudent. Unfortunately, what is prudent is not available to Ukraine as an option. Ukraine cannot stop its offensive, because then a fate worse than tremendous casualties awaits.

mafketis
22 Jun 2023  #1117

hoigu has informed Putin re: progress on forming reserves

will they be as impressive as these guys?

twitter.com/Lyla_lilas/status/1669280735679709186

or this guy?

twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1671781960065200128

CW: russian propaganda monster who'd called for genocide getting what he deserved

Novichok
22 Jun 2023  #1118

Ukraine cannot stop its offensive, because then a fate worse than tremendous casualties awaits.

US ATM will jam and stop spitting out billions?

Novichok
22 Jun 2023  #1119

My commentary, hoe.

putain is a purveyor of misery

No, idiot. "Is" means you present it as fact. Just like other Russia haters claim that Putin is a "dictator" and a "tyrant" without any evidence but with a burning desire to make him equal to Hitler. On the other hand, a US president invading Iraq and killing thousands was such a nice guy that Poland decided to go along.

mafketis
22 Jun 2023  #1120

you present it as fact

Cuz it is, hoe, cuz it is.

Do you have any evidence that putain (glad to see you're at least using the correct spelling) is _not_ a purveyor of misery? Do you have documentary evidence of him spreading joy?

I stand behind what I write.

If you like him so much why are you still in the US?

Bobko
22 Jun 2023  #1121

US ATM will jam and stop spitting out billions?

That certainly might happen. If it does, it could lead to a whole cascade of negative events for Ukraine's government.

Let's look at Putin for a second. He's already had his "worst year". List:

1) He misjudged what it would take to rapidly collapse Ukraine.
2) He got us all sanctioned.
3) A bunch of our money was stolen, money that was stashed away for a rainy day.
4) Tens of thousands of young men have died.
5) You could argue all this was more or less directly his fault.

How's he feeling? Why, quite wonderful. Whether it is based on polling or his gleaming face at the St. Petersburg economic forum. Putin has gazed into the abyss, and he's still around to tell the story. Hard to imagine, quite honestly, what has to happen for Putin to experience another such panic as described above. In essence, this was largely the purpose of the West's shock and awe response. Somehow Putin survived.

Now let's look at Zelensky's year:

1) He is widely considered a living symbol of Ukrainian resilience.
2) World leaders fly to Kiev to take selfies with him.
3) Despite all odds, he has saved Ukraine's economy from collapse, by rallying aid from around the world, using his superb communication skills.
4) Internally, he has managed to steel his population for a long fight, by taking masterful control of the information domain.
5) Finally, he has lived to see the moment his own "D-Day" was launched. Anxious now, to see it work.

So you see, Zelensky has been rather untested in the "daily eating sh!t" discipline, in which Putin is quite trained. If his farcical D-Day doesn't work out, and the West suddenly becomes much less helpful, there will be hell to pay. Already things are coming apart at the seems internally (yesterday Klitschko was saying Zelensky is trying to oust him as mayor of Kiev).

Everyone has been forced to keep their mouth shut around Zelensky for the better part of a year. Now, some of the shine is starting to come off. Really, through no fault of his own.

Novichok
22 Jun 2023  #1122

For the benefit of PF military experts...

German experts explain Russia's defensive success

"Russia has prepared three unpleasant surprises for the Ukrainian counteroffensive," the experts outlined.

1. A remote-controlled mine system
2. Electronic warfare capable of shutting down or jamming Ukrainian communication
3. After the destruction of the Kakhovka dam, Russia has been able to transfer all of its forces defending the left bank of the Dnieper River to the Zaporozhye front.


Those "Mongols" that can't walk and chew at the same time...Not surprised that Ukraine is winning...

Novichok
22 Jun 2023  #1123

IAEA debunks Ukrainian claim about Europe's largest nuclear plant
There are no mines at the cooling pond of the Zaporozhye NPP, the UN watchdog has said


Rafael Mariano Grossi, the director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), denied on Tuesday claims made by the Ukrainian government that the cooling pond of the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) had been rigged with explosives.

Hey, Raf, are you saying that Ukrainians lied? If so, maybe they lied about other things - like rapes, and those "kidnappings"...I am so shocked...

Or IAEA is on the Russian payroll - like RT.

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1124

the russian government is a cesspit of inhumanity, vol. 36,558

An 64 year old guy with cancer has been sentenced to 7.5 years of prison for things he wrote on social media even though he's the only caretaker for his 94 year old mother.

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1672168904431398913

What a hideous anti-life culture... of course freedom-loving Ukrainians want nothing to do with it... how someone can say "I'm russian" and not just die of shame is a mystery...

GefreiterKania
23 Jun 2023  #1125

how someone can say "I'm russian" and not just die of shame is a mystery

Has anyone ever told you that sometimes you have a slight propensity for exaggeration, Maf? :)

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1126

you have a slight propensity for exaggeration, Maf? :)

Literally not a single soul in the universe would say that to me in a billion years! I tell people not to exaggerate about 36,000 times a day!

Velund
23 Jun 2023  #1127

I tell people not to exaggerate about 36,000 times a day!

So, you are very busy to "pack" each of your sentences in a <2.4 sec message? Definitely, you must work hard to free some time to write here. ;) And for sure you have no time to see news from different sources. ;)

GefreiterKania
23 Jun 2023  #1128

Saakashvili claims that Putin will order nuclear strikes on Kiev and Rzeszów, and that NATO will respond only in conventional way, so Russia will lose but not against Ukraine (which would be a disgrace) but against NATO...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-micheil-saakaszwili-putin-uzyje-czerwonego-guzika-celami-bed,nId,6859303

... interesting theory. Just in case - don't plan your summer holidays in Rzeszów.

Novichok
23 Jun 2023  #1129

how someone can say "I'm russian" and not just die of shame is a mystery...

I am Russian. See you tomorrow. And the day after...

An 64 year old guy with cancer has been sentenced to 7.5 years of prison

If you have cancer you act like you have cancer. Pi*sing off the system is a very bad idea when you have cancer; prison healthcare is sh*tty and nurses are mean.

Novichok
23 Jun 2023  #1130

This one goes into the Those Dumb Mongols file...

Russia builds world's most powerful rocket engine
Roscosmos has announced production of the first sample of the RD-171MV engine for the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle


Bobko
23 Jun 2023  #1131

Saakashvili

This man is not well, and has been so for a long time.

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1132

ussian. See you tomorrow

To die of shame.... you have to know what shame is.... which narcissists... don't.

Pi*sing off the system is a very bad idea when you have cancer

So you accept the premise that the government has the right to imprison those that write things that displease it....so you wouldn't complain if the Biden administration threw your old @ss in jail.

Korvinus
23 Jun 2023  #1133

most powerful rocket engine

They'll probably by towing Armatas to the battlefields. Or their orkish carrier, once it stops catching fire in a dry dock.
Or hey could try to tow T-14 Armata with it next to the embassy, it will swiftly break down and remain there for good.

Novichok
23 Jun 2023  #1134

So you accept the premise that the government has the right to imprison those that write things that displease it

...or send them to Vietnam to die for bullsh*it.

To die of shame....

What should I as a Russian be ashamed of?

They'll probably by towing Armatas to the battlefields.

No. They will provide better service as space Uber to those who need it.

Korvinus
23 Jun 2023  #1135

They will provide better service as space Uber to those who need it.

Russia is a 3rd world sh*ithole, relevant only because of nukes, every person above 100 IQ with some academic future, emigrated to the West long time ago. China is only marginally better, and relevant because they're serve as cheap labor to make western toys. The only science they do is figuring out how to cram more chinese workers into a building so they can provide even cheaper labor for the Western overlords.

Novichok
23 Jun 2023  #1136

Russia is a 3rd world sh*ithole, relevant only because of nukes

Using your standards for relevancy, is Poland relevant?

every person above 100 IQ with some academic future, emigrated to the West long time ago.

You are so right. I actually acknowledged this in my post:

This one goes into the Those Dumb Mongols file...
Russia builds world's most powerful rocket engine


Bobko
23 Jun 2023  #1137

Russia is a 3rd world sh*ithole

I'm starting to think you people are crazy. For who's benefit do you repeat these things ad nauseam? If Velund or I wrote about how inept Westerners are in every other post, I doubt anyone would still be reading us. It's a two-way street gentlemen.

What you do feels like some kind of masturbatory act.

The only meaningful explanation I can think of, for why otherwise normal people would behave this way, is a deep-seated fear.

No one in Poland seems to derive even 1/10th the enjoyment from pointing out the limited mental faculties of Iranians, North Koreans, Ethiopians, or Malians. Reason - Poland does not feel threatened by them, and therefore there is no need for racist outbursts a-lá 1942.

Novichok
23 Jun 2023  #1138

I'm starting to think you people are crazy. For who's benefit do you repeat these things ad nauseam?

It's a ticket to PF High Moral Ground. Or a feel-good, "I am so proud of myself" selfie.

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1139

Tens of thousands of young men have died

How's he feeling? Why, quite wonderful

his gleaming face

russian mentality.... tens of thousands of young men have died but the Tsar feels wonderful and sunshine is coming out of his bottom!

What is wrong with russians that they value the Tsar's transitory emotions more than the lives of their young men?

hideous culture... no wonder Ukrainians are done with it and moving on.

mafketis
23 Jun 2023  #1140

The most interesting question of the day of course is 'What's prigozhin up to?" in a bombshell interview he denies almost all the standard russian propaganda points and says russian forces are... not doing well.

He blames soygu and giraff'es-mouth(don't want to look up his name.. the one that looks like a depressed orangutan)
Are things heating up between wagner and the russian military?
Is he trying to save face for putain? to challenge putain?
What gives?

He even says kind of truthful things....

to be clear I don't trust prigozhin as far as I could throw an elephant and I'm sure bits and pieces of truth are wrapped up in lies (and vice versa) but it's.... odd....

twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672177488535977984


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