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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Korvinus
25 Jun 2023  #1291

.....if we just had that common army already....

And now we go into the realm of science-fiction. For all the talk about common European defense Europe has already been failing its NATO obligations, like paying less than 2% gdp. Interestingly enough only U.S., Greece, Poland, Estonia and the U.K. used to pay the expected amount consistently

Velund
25 Jun 2023  #1292

only U.S., Greece, Poland, Estonia and the U.K. used to pay the expected amount consistently

US is primary beneficiary of this "cannon fodder" club. UK is trying to be second beneficiary. So, US pay the bills by freshly minted greenbacks increasing world inflation. Poland, Greece and tribaltic "tigers" shares is almost negligible amount in a total expenses.

Tacitus
25 Jun 2023  #1293

used to pay the expected amount consistently

And even then, only the USA and possibly Poland actually field significant conventional forces in the case of a conventional threat. And Poland's ability to do so is likely limited to Eastern Europe.

amiga500
25 Jun 2023  #1294

And Poland's ability to do so is likely limited to Eastern Europe.

You mean Central Europe? That is the accepted PC term now.

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1295

in the case of a conventional threat.

Who is that "conventional threat"?

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1296

US knew of Wagner coup plans in advance - NYT
Washington kept silent because it "had little interest" in helping Russia out, the report says

US intelligence agencies strongly suspected that Evgeny Prigozhin was planning a major move against the Russian government, days before the Wagner chief ordered his troops to march on Moscow, The New York Times reported on Saturday, citing sources.


If the US knew so did Russia. The question still is if Pri is insane or just got drunk.

Whichever the case, Russia should follow the US and have the death penalty.

johnny reb
25 Jun 2023  #1297

You mean Central Europe? That is the accepted PC term now.

So who would Eastern Europe be then ?

cms neuf
25 Jun 2023  #1298

Love the way the paid trolls have been told to earn their few kopecks by turning their guns on Prigozhin.

Was hilarious to see pathetic Udmurtian losers pointing their Korean War rifles at each other last night.

And shows that if Ukraine had surrendered or negotiated they would now be shackled to this alcoholic banana republic

Have the Ugandans arrived yet LOL ?

mafketis
25 Jun 2023  #1299

if Ukraine had surrendered or negotiated they would now be shackled to this alcoholic banana republic

And large scale killings (Bucha Mariupol X 1000) would have begun.... it's been clear from the beginning that the primary goal (once ukrainians failed to greet the russians with flowers) has been to kill civilians....

russia is a bit like Rome - the public loves watching people die, it doesn't matter who (and they accept it might be them being ripped to bits for the cheering crowds at some point).

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1300

by turning their guns on Prigozhin.

What Pri did has nothing to do with nothing. It was an act of treason, pure and simple.

I was against the Iraq war but would support the US trying and executing any American who would do what Pri did.

Tacitus
25 Jun 2023  #1301

Russia's is 1.5 trillion.

I could now point out that Russia is a) an autocracy in which Putin is free to dedicate far more ressources to the army than Western European democracies with their welfare states can afford b) wages and pensions are several times larger in Western Europe (and indeed the largest factor in their military budgets) which means Russia can unlike any European country keep a significant force under arms and c) still has immense stockpiles in weapons and armor from the SU but I am sure you will just ignore this.

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1302

Try to answer a simple question simply.
Who is the threat to Germany? List all of them in any order you want.

Crnogorac3
25 Jun 2023  #1303

Prigozhyd wants a Moscow Maidan

youtu.be/scweS4z1h_A

Scott Ritter : Treason

youtu.be/Ek2RhqyGcBw

Prigozhin mutiny. Own goal, gift to collective west - Alex Christoforou

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1304

Prigozhyd wants a Moscow Maidan

Is he Jewish?

Crnogorac3
25 Jun 2023  #1305

From Wiki

Prigozhin was born and raised in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) in the Soviet Union on 1 June 1961, to Violetta Prigozhina (Russian: Виолетта Пригожина). His father and stepfather were of Jewish descent.

Prigozhyd is a typical backstabbing jew-rat. I wonder how much ZOG paid him? I hope he's found face down in a ditch.

He needs to be killed and his entire family wiped out too.

With jews you lose, but Russians will never learn.

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1306

but Russians will never learn.

And God knows they had plenty of examples...Trotsky, Beria, Soros...
The stupidest thing they did was abolish the death penalty.

Paulina
25 Jun 2023  #1307

and his entire family wiped out too.

Spoken like a true Nazi.

This is the kind of people that support RuSSia. Behold.

Find a better image to masturbate to than Putin in cuffs being delivered to the ICC idiots.

That's a very RuSSian thing to say, btw. I mean the masturbating part. Are you sure you aren't RuSSian, Novichok?

Crnogorac3
25 Jun 2023  #1308

Jews, homosexual child fvckers, feminist white women, postmodernist freaks of all stripes, and the most vile degenerate scum of the earth are rejoicing at unfolding events in Russia yesterday.

Paulina
25 Jun 2023  #1309

are rejoicing at unfolding events in Russia yesterday.

And the people who were saddened by those events are degenerate Nazis, like yourself, who want to murder whole families. Kids included, you psycho?

I am whatever I self-identify at the moment.

lol
How about biologically? Do you have Russian roots, Novichok?

You are embarrassing, the posts and the authors.

Unlike Crnogorac3 who just wrote that Prigozhin's whole family should be murdered?

Crnogorac3
25 Jun 2023  #1310

Lukashenko saves the day. Prigozhin calls off mutiny.

youtu.be/ZR4BfdhIw_A

Preliminary Autopsy of a Botched Coup in Late June

dailystormer.in/preliminary-autopsy-of-a-botched-coup-in-late-june/

mafketis
25 Jun 2023  #1311

Prigozhyd

again with the nazi stuff.... russia supporters just can't stop showing their true, nazi, colors....

GefreiterKania
25 Jun 2023  #1312

dailystormer.in

Nice source.

That's interesting - Germans considered Serbs/Montenegrins (and all Slavic people really) to be Untermenschen, nothing more than human cattle, and today Crno happily presents his nazi views.

He probably doesn't understand that had the nazis won, he wouldn't even be here today. What stupidity!

Novichok
25 Jun 2023  #1313

Do you have Russian roots, Novichok?

Everybody has the roots to advance their political objectives. What do you want me to be?
I am .0001% African and expect reparations or I will loot and burn.

and today Crno happily presents his nazi views.

Nazis liked clean and well-behaved kids. Anything wrong with that?

Nazi as a debate argument is as low as calling somebody "Hitler". When you do it you lose.

Alien
25 Jun 2023  #1314

He needs to be killed and his entire family wiped out too. With jews

We've had this before. Could some little Adolf be growing up in Montenegro?

Paulina
25 Jun 2023  #1315

What do you want me to be?

I want you to tell truth. Do you have Russian roots or not? Simple answer - "yes" or "no".

Nazi as a debate argument is as low as calling somebody "Hitler".

Not in Crnogorac3's case.

GefreiterKania
25 Jun 2023  #1316

Nazis liked clean and well-behaved kids.

Yes, and they also liked to put kids with smoke through concentration camps' crematorium chimneys.

I am .0001% African

Talking 'bout Africa: after this Bunga-Zulu African putsch attempt, I think Putin's Russia can easily apply to be accepted into African Union (culturally/politically they are already there).

I think chieftain Vladimir looks very nice in traditional African outfit...

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... my only hope is that real Russians will rise, execute the Africans (even while they are sitting on their golden toilets) and re-discover their European, Slavic roots. Fingers crossed for real Russia.

Crnogorac3
25 Jun 2023  #1317

Interesting precedent:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1958_crisis_in_France

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers_putsch_of_1961

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Resurrection

mafketis
25 Jun 2023  #1318

Do you have Russian roots or not?

I am Russian

seems settled!

GefreiterKania
25 Jun 2023  #1319

Interesting precedent

What precedent? I don't recall armed mercenaries riding hundreds of kilometres through France like through an empty steppe, causing panic in Paris. :)

cms neuf
25 Jun 2023  #1320

What I do know is that if Udmurtia still has any elite troops they will not be going anywhere near Ukraine - Putin will keep them close at hand but probably after a thorough vetting and the odd poisoning of their officers

By "elite" I mean by Udmurtian standards - of course they would be nowhere near the quality of western elite units


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