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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Luke1410
1 Jul 2023  #1561

So? It's obvious that Medvedev or any other Putinist will be criticising a government that is helping Ukraine and it's obvious that the leader of the biggest opposition party in the country will be criticising a bad government (and PiS government sucks a lot, so they deserve criticism).

This is all he does, when he is ever criticizing Russia? I would actually be relieved if you could find some examples to put my mind at rest. Quoting some bs about Gazeta Wyborcza is not going to cut it. I have zero respect for all media, right and left.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jul 2023  #1562

The obvious subtext to that was that the status of the Oder-Neisse line, lost by Germany after WWII, was considered a matter of debate by the AfD.

Where did you get THAT?

Paulina
1 Jul 2023  #1563

when he is ever criticizing Russia?

All you need is to google it:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/donald-tusk-apeluje-o-reakcje-na-klamstwa-prezydenta-putina-6461992756475521a

energia.rp.pl/gaz/art16986331-donald-tusk-krytykuje-projekt-nord-stream-2

wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/rzeczniczka-msz-rosji-krytykuje-tuska-z-powodu-slow-o-zsrr/m9sn55e

rp.pl/polityka/art35744851-donald-tusk-to-nie-kryzys-ukrainski-to-jest-agresja-rosji-putina

wiadomosci.wp.pl/donald-tusk-o-agresji-rosji-na-ukraine-mowil-o-poczatku-galopujacej-wojny-6740374349323200a

Quoting some bs about Gazeta Wyborcza is not going to cut it.

This is not "bs". PiS supporters have claimed that "Gazeta Wyborcza" is pro-RuSSian (as in supporting Putinist RuSSia) which couldn't be further from the thruth. They repeat the same lies about Tusk and PO, TVN, so it's all connected.

Paulina
1 Jul 2023  #1564

I have zero respect for all media, right and left.

Including TVP?

Novichok
1 Jul 2023  #1565

He underestimated the number of wagnerites killed in Bakhmut.....

His numbers are 20k dead and 10k wounded adding up to 60% of the total at the start. What are your numbers?

Luke1410
1 Jul 2023  #1566

Ok 2 quotes from 2019 , 3 from March 2022. Alarm bells are still ringing. I've been in Poland a fair few times recently and TVN is basically 24/7 anti-PiS propaganda, it's truly sickening the level they have taken it to. So I can understand where the paranoia comes from.

Donald Tusk needs to recognise that Russia is a very important issue for Poland and to come out strong on this. It's currently a weak point for KO and that's why we like to point it out, not to try and silence you. I would love to see some cross party togetherness on this as it dwarfs any other issue currently facing Poland.

Paulina
1 Jul 2023  #1567

Ok 2 quotes from 2019 , 3 from March 2022. Alarm bells are still ringing.

You didn't even check the links - one of the articles is from 2017.

TVN is basically 24/7 anti-PiS propaganda, it's truly sickening the level they have taken it to.

Are you serious? Did you see what TVP is doing?? THAT is truly sickening, especially that it's supposed to be a public TV station and not PiSTV. TVN is a private TV station.

I would love to see some cross party togetherness

Read the freaking links I posted. In one of them Tusk even talks about it.

Luke1410
1 Jul 2023  #1568

TVP is probably the only TV station in the entire world that would allow myself to watch, I literally avoid all others as if it's that film 'the ring'.

Paulina
1 Jul 2023  #1569

TVP is probably the only TV station in the entire world that would allow myself to watch, I literally avoid all others as if it's that film 'the ring'.

Oh wow... ;D
You are a truly hopeless case of a PiS fanatic then and a complete diot lol

facepalm

travel999
1 Jul 2023  #1570

Yawn. At least the shills have something to waste their time doing.

Russia is not a concern and not a threat. Moving on.

Novichok
2 Jul 2023  #1571

Orban: No, you will not win this one, Mr. Z.
Novichok: By now, Mr. Z, you are a traitor and a war criminal.
youtu.be/-d0D_5CWZ9k

Feniks
2 Jul 2023  #1572

PiS government sucks a lot, so they deserve criticism

TVP is probably the only TV station in the entire world that would allow myself to watch

You don't think these sentences are totally at odds with each other?

Luke1410
2 Jul 2023  #1573

@amiga, take away the juvenile abuse and Donald Tusk supporters would have nothing left, so wouldn't be fair to leave them with nothing. And to be fair to them standing up for PiS is a fairly stupid position to take given the determination and scale of the opposition, but it has to be done.

@Feniks, the first statement was a quote from somebody else.

Crnogorac3
2 Jul 2023  #1574

Medvedev Mocks the West for Talking About "Instability" in Russia

dailystormer.in/medvedev-mocks-the-west-for-talking-about-instability-in-russia/

Greta Goes to Meet Zelensky to Give Him "Professional Help"

dailystormer.in/greta-goes-to-meet-zelensky-to-give-him-professional-help/

I remember how recently GefreiterKania and Paulina were very quick to label Russia as a "banana republic" despite Putin quelling a potentially very dangerous rebellion within a day.

Interesting how they don't dare to call France a banana republic where babciajebac Macron is unable to put down the riots for 5 days straight.

:)

Crnogorac3
2 Jul 2023  #1575

MAJOR RACHEL JONES FROM THE U.S. ARMY HAS A MESSAGE

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/fxLne6y0H7ZH/

GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2023  #1576

dailystormer.in

You have to stop quoting nazi sources. Are you a Slav or a ustasha-banderist sickf*ck?

Putin quelling a potentially very dangerous rebellion within a day.

He did no such thing. Prigozhin stopped himself, lured by some undisclosed promises of Alexander the Potato Fuhrer.

Interesting how they don't dare to call France a banana republic

They are an islamic republic not a banana one. There is a lot of muslim violence there (if you import millions of people from violent muslim sh*tholes, you shouldn't be surprised that your country turns into a violent muslim sh*thole too - logic 101). Still, there are no bands of armed mercenaries driving tanks for hundreds of kilometres through France and capturing cities and ministry buildings. France hasn't reached that level of bananisation yet. :)

Now, let's sing together...

Jambo, Jambo bwana,
Habari gani,
Mzuri sana.

Wageni, Wakaribishwa,
Russkiy Mir yetu Hakuna Matata.


Russkiy Mir yetu Hakuna Matata

Luke1410
2 Jul 2023  #1577

The West is in some serious trouble for sure, in large part due to allowing Russia access to the internet and allowing them to stir racial unrest. But let's put things in perspective. Kadyrov is poised to become the new leader of Russia, I would take instability over this situation.

I would consider your position very carefully if I was you.

GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2023  #1578

in large part due to allowing Russia access to the internet

Oh, so it was Russia who imported millions upon millions of muslims to Europe? Yes, I like to blame Russia for a whole lot of different things too, but that's taking the game a bit too far. :)

consider your position

What position? As a man of high integrity I criticise both the West and Russia when the criticism is called for, and I give credit to either the West or Russia when credit is due.

Anyways, I'm going for holidays tomorrow and will be away for 3 weeks or so. The holidays will involve digital detox, so I'm afraid PF will be deprived of my wisdom in that time. No worries though, I'll be back.

Luke1410
2 Jul 2023  #1579

Sorry mate, I was referring to Crnogorac's position supporting Russia (and by extension Kadyrov) not your position.

It's possible that the human trafficking networks have been financed by Russia, though this is just speculation.

Kashub1410
2 Jul 2023  #1580

@Luke1410
Serbians default position on this is to back Russia as they have major beef with the west and blaming the west for all it's problems (similar to Russia)

Novichok
2 Jul 2023  #1581

Greta Goes to Meet Zelensky to Give Him "Professional Help"

That's how sick West is. Between those two, I wonder who is worse...

Novichok
2 Jul 2023  #1582

Still, there are no bands of armed mercenaries driving tanks

Those are easier to deal with than the hordes of "children". BTW, did you notice how quickly rioting thugs become "children" when the cops show some balls?

You can't use artillery, no matter how precise, against rioting "mostly peaceful" Muslims. AR-15s would be very effective, though...Especially with scopes...

Novichok
2 Jul 2023  #1583

Quoting:

Russian kamikaze drones are major headache for Ukraine - Telegraph

Russian Lancets, which carry up to 3kg of explosives, fly at low altitudes to avoid detection, are highly maneuverable, and can loiter in the air until the target exposes itself. These factors make them a major threat to Ukrainian artillery, especially given that Kiev is reluctant to use air defense missiles on these relatively cheap aircraft, the report says.

Those Mongols...How do they manage with all the Russian engineers gone and happily working for Boeing and Lockheed...

Alien
2 Jul 2023  #1584

kamikaze drones are major headache for Ukraine

This is modern warfare. Terminator greetings. The Americans are certainly already testing how to neutralize them in the air. The training ground in Ukraine will be very useful for this.

mafketis
2 Jul 2023  #1585

russians using mobile crematoriums to hide losses (and without idenifying the dead first so no compensation for the families... forget the white lada, these soldiers families won't even get a towel set or big bag of pelmeni....)

ukrainetoday.org/2023/07/02/the-stench-is-terrible-the-russians-burn-their-two-hundred-in-berdyansk-and-melitopol-video/

Novichok
2 Jul 2023  #1586

The training ground in Ukraine will be very useful for this.

Can we test them in Africa? I don't like the idea of more dead whites.

Korvinus
2 Jul 2023  #1587

...and even better if Poland

World would be a better place, because if Poland had WMDs then Moscow would be a nuclear wasteland long time ago

Medvedev is right, as a proud rushit-hating Polak, I would absolutely support nuking Russia, idgaf about the consequences. I'll gladly die in a nuclear apocalypse as long as it also means removing all moskal mongoloids. Completely worth it, to ensure future generations born after the world will recover from the nuclear war, will live in a paradise not plagued by rushit subhumans anymore.

Russia is a cancer that needs to be removed, nuking you fags would be like chemotherapy, it might kill a lot of healthy cells too, but it's better than just letting the cancer grow and destroy the whole body, beyond hope of ever recovering.

Alien
2 Jul 2023  #1588

Can we test them in Africa

Theoretically yes, but the Russian army is better for testing. You'll have sooner or later to win a war with russia. Some African army could be chased away with sticks. (oops, was that racist?)

Crnogorac3
2 Jul 2023  #1589

Medvedev is right, as a proud rushit-hating Polak, I would absolutely support nuking Russia, idgaf about the consequences.

And GefreiterKania was telling us how he has yet to see or meet a russophobic Pole. For the people who hate like Korvinus, hatred is usually tearing them apart & destroying them from within. Life is too short to hate anyone.

dailystormer.in/are-the-polish-literally-retarded-or-just-very-angry-what-is-their-problem/

I guess Anglin must be reading PolishForums and he used the video I posted this morning of Morawiecki on the riots in France.

:)

johnny reb
2 Jul 2023  #1590

An armed coup attempt by a group of mercenaries and convicts led by some warlord and which almost reached the capital of a country without any hindrance definitely does.

With the relocation of a Russian mercenary Wagner Group to Belarus has worried authorities in Warsaw because of the situation in Belarus, where some 8,000 Wagner Group soldiers are staying.

This is dangerous for Ukraine, potentially dangerous for Lithuania, but also for Poland.
At a special press conference, Mateusz Morawiecki presented Poland's plan for European border security.
Europe is a continent of freedom and security, and neighboring countries where chaos, anarchy and sometimes tyranny reign puts Poland security under threat.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine showed what a threat it is to all of Europe.
Belarus is also part of Russia's plan to attack Europe.
Poland's border are going to be getting beefed up soon against potential enemies and unwanted migrants.


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