Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

Korvinus thinks that KonfedeRussia is the best party ever. How does he reconcile this with his hatred towards Russia is beyond me. You have to take into account that all kinds of people use internet boards and they are usually not the most mentally healthy kind ;)

And, no - I've never met any genuine Russia hater in the real life.


For the first time I forced myself to read something on your dodgy nazi website, Crno, and I want the 5 minutes of my life back. This Anglin guy is totally clueless and knows absolutely nothing about either Poland or Russia.

There was no "armed coup". Only a moron would try that with 5000 guys and no chance of getting resupplied. A mag of ammo is empty in 10 seconds or less...

Pri wanted to talk to Putin and shake up his military top. Everybody knew about his plans including the CIA and the FSB.
When L told him that they all would be killed by the Russian army near Moscow, he called it off. That simple, little Civic.

An armed coup attempt (judging by what "Pri" was saying at some point).


Maybe he is a moron. Or insane, who knows.


Why didn't they stop them at the border then?

They didn't have a level-80 coup-suppression expert like you on staff... And, potato republic works somewhat different compared to banana one...

...and show gleeful West how Russians kill Russians? Duh! Especially that Pri at that point was a national hero before he became a traitor.

Putin ordered his guys to minimize Russian casualties - just as he did with Ukrainians.

At some point, L told Pri to knock this sh*it off and he did as told. End of the "coup".

What remains is: Will Pri die from natural causes? Wagner is history and so is the idea of private armies for profit.

Many claim that Pri was a criminal for the way he was making money by letting his men die in large numbers. That linkage does not exist in a regular not-for-profit army.

That's why we don't pay cops based on how many bad guys they catch or kill.

Are you saying that they didn't know what to do??


You mean Belarus? lol


And Pri listened to L and not to P? This doesn't look good for P no matter how you look at it.

It actually makes sense. Putin asked L to come to an agreement with Pri on his exile to B. Putin negotiating directly with "a traitor" was never in the cards as it would make them equal.

A Russian president negotiating with a contractor who turned enemy...You wouldn't do it either.

Sorry, but L making Pri stop instead of P makes Putin look weak. There's no way to go around this. The fact alone that there had to be some kind of "deal" made at all shows what kind of mess RuSSia is right now.

Currently there are more than 15 million people displaced in Ukraine, internally and externally. Did you see photos from cities Russians actually reached, like Mariupol, Severodoneck, Bakhmut? So why are you actively remain stupid?

If I was a Russian leader and was up to me to fight ""russophobia"", I would demolish all soviet monuments, ask forgiveness for stuff like Katyn massacre, teach the youth about the evils of USSR in classrooms, outlaw communism and politicians who advocate for military interference in RU neighbor countries and argue that the average Russian is not responsible for the things done by USSR and in fact, Stalin was Georgian and FDR betrayed Poland and gave it to Stalin, leave regions occupied in all countries, criminally persecute or send to Hague all war criminals. If Russians did it, do you think that """russophobia"" would end

Why go thru all that.... just no longer invading neighbors and concentrating efforts on improving the lives of everyday russians (rather than let the rat b@str@d thief class steal everything) would do the job just as well, reorient the military toward border defense and stop trying to reclaim the worst empire of the 20th century....

I'd leave soviet monuments as part of history (without glamorizing them) and generally act like normal human beings about everything else.

Have classes about things like civic duty and civic pride and social capital and educational in school with a big dose of ethics (no, it's not okay to steal... no, it's not okay to get drunk and beat up your family, and most importantly.... just because someone else did something bad doesn't give you a free pass to do something different that's just as bad (or worse).

but russians are fanatical about brutalizing neighboring countries, thieving and avoiding blame.... very pathetic.

Agreed. Germans demolished Nazi monuments, Russians should do the same with the Soviet ones.


They already did. How many times do you want them to apologise for the same thing?


All the Russians I spoke to had a pretty good idea about the evils of Stalinism and Soviet crimes. They had to get this education somewhere.

As for the rest of your post, you would like Russia to act towards the historical Soviet crimes in the same way that Germany dealt with their Nazi past. Of course, that would be the best solution and would be the first step towards transforming Russia into a modern European country. The problem is: they don't want to be a modern European country. They prefer their imperial pipe dream. Pity.

Like today's Germany or France? No, thank you.

What Kadyrov will do to Russia will make Germany and France look like a Christian paradise in comparison. Why the f are you supporting this process?? Putin has sold you out completely. Your only hope is if Prigozhin rides into Moscow and saves you.

These countries are unattainable in the case of russia, but it would be good if russia reached the level of Romania or Bulgaria.

And Putin is responsible for this mess.


Out of curiosity, what were their political views and how old were they?


Not invading your neighbours doesn't automatically turn you into Germany or France :))

No, dear. L didn't stop Pri. Pri stopped Pri after L told Pri what Pu will do to Pri if Pri does not stop. That was the stick.

The carrot was no prosecution and a safe place in B. Pri wisely chose the carrot.
Are we OK now?



All preventable if Z signed off on what P asked for before Feb 24, 2022.
Would you like me to repeat it?

I got the impression that you simply BELEIVE that everyone MUST strive to become a decadent society like, for example, France today. With a completely sold out political elite, acting against the interests of its citizens and incapable even of keeping basic order in their own country, both in terms of law enforcement and cleanliness in the streets of their capital. ;)

Looks like an old maid who dreamed all her life of being an elite prostitute and sincerely hates everyone who pursued a different goal in life, and especially those who achieved it. ;)

Ask her where she and her two kids would rather be today...in Paris or Moscow?

That more like it. That is a good argument. See, you can do it if you try.


Sue him.


Stop it. Forgiveness, appologies, who needs that stuff. It sounds like Kabuki play and is no real.

Best description of russia I've ever read! What a great metaphor!

Even better:


reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/14p31gc/all_gassed_up/

Whenever I go to France it's funny that I see the fancy stores and restaurants frequented by the ruling classes of Udmurtian thieves. They must be researching just how decadent it has become

Tell me, where in Poland can you steal so much to be a regular visitor at French luxury boutiques and restaurants? Or maybe you lied, and you don't have money for a ticket farther than to Konin if you need to buy burger as well at same day?

And I gather that their welcome is running out in many places.

I have a modest house in France - mainly for holidays, sometimes for work. Coincidentally though I have been at a brightly lit gas station, now supplied from Norway, right outside Konin today and even got a free hot dog.

Yes, here in Poland it is possible to earn money honestly and being in the EU we can work, invest and live in 27 countries. No wonder Ukraine wants to join the club and leave behind the Udmurtian kleptocracy for good.

@Velund


Is that what Russians say to make life in a hellhole like Russia bearable? Yeah, we dont have indoor-plumbing and our men drink themselves to an early grave, but at least we are not "decadent"? Never mind the Russian ruling class that lives and enjoys said decadence to its' fullest.

Putin and his supporters have started a war of agression that has at this point claimed more than 100k Russian lifes, injured several more and caused an economic long-term damage to Russia from well above 1tn Euro. So much for acting in their countries interest.

If Putin was after anything but his personal gain, he would have agreed to a peace deal in March 2022 when Russia was still in a very strong position, instead of dragging the war on despite its' increasing cost and diminishing returns.

Guess why there was no peace agreement in March 2022...It was your side that told Z: Don't even think about it. We didn't make enough money yet and Russia is not bleeding as much as we want it...


You are worse than that. You, Euros amd your American manipulators, are on a suicide trajectory. In one hundred years, Russia will be Russia, China will be China, and you, a-holes, will be a mixture of woke trembling whites, African blacks, and rioting Muslims - these last two groups out reproducing you, stupid Euro whites at twice the rate.

Actually, your repro rate is below what is needed to be sustainable so you are walking dead already.


...as opposed to the Western ruling class that gladly lives with the consequences of its criminal actions. That was sarcasm if it's not obvious enough...

This is the funniest post I have read on PF.

Really? How on earth did these Russians get whiff of Stalinist crimes? Midnight vigils at the radio listening to Radio Free Europe? Wikipedia entries smuggled into the country on flash drives? The helpful volunteers of USAID and the British Council slipping people little notes with scribbled messages?

Oh wait... maybe it's the fact that in almost every Russian family someone was lost to the famines, purges, or overzealous prosecution of petty crimes.

@Novichok: You need to start going to Church and to start absorbing Pope Francis's message on this, he says that migrants enrich and nourish society and help it to grow and that we need to assimilate, educate and integrate. So just accept it and get with the program ffs.

And if Russia is still Russia in 10 years I'll be surprised.

Mostly because Russia commited multiple atrocities in Ukraine including Butcha, which made it impossible for the Ukrainians to negotiate with them.


Russia's is significantly worse and that was before the invasion of Ukraine.


Our presidents usually dont end up owning palaces worth hundreds of millions while many citizen's so not even have indoor-plumbing.