Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

russia still acting russian and still depending on suicidal meat assaults

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even russian telegram channels are saying the same thing...

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no country on earth throws away the lives of its people quite like russia.... but hey! great power! empire! tsar! oligarchs!

I guess for russians the idea that they're dying for the tsar's prestige makes everything worth it?

At least Russia "throws away" Russians for Russia. The US did it with Koreans, Vietnamese,...you know the rest ... for MIC profits.
And for the other guys' "democracy" as a good-sounding lie.


Other than Russia, what is that "empire"? Is China an empire?
Do you even know what "empire" is or are you pulling stuff out of your rear end just to say something?

Quoting:

Russia will prevent Ukraine joining NATO - Medvedev
Moscow will stop "the threat" of Ukraine joining the bloc "one way or another," ex-Russian president warns

I would trust Russia just as I would trust the US saying the same thing about Mexico joining the Warsaw Pact then or Cuba getting Russian nukes now - 100 feet from Gitmo.

I don't think we would be getting lectures from PF military experts about how Cuba is an independent and sovereign country that is free to allow nukes on its territory if it wishes.

Only moronic, maf-class crap...

Well they tried one way - invading them with WW1 rifles and no GPS

Whats the other way going to be ? Waving your 80 year old missiles around ?

Poland is too and is going to sooner or later.
Quote:
According to Marcin Ociepa, the Russian Federation's declaration and its efforts to move nuclear weapons into Belarus provide a context that prompts Poland's adversaries to signal that it may also seek such weapons.

Face it Richie, as bad as you want to control the narrative in this thread, you and your buddy Putin are losing badly.

Hilarious to see Putin kowtowing and thanking China and India for their support during the Banan Republic coup when in fact neither of them lifted a finger and waited to see which way the wind is blowing.

Good to see bald crook Putin revelling in his Mussolini role - a desperate sycophant to third world nations LOL

I am surprised he didnt thank N Korea.
Those countries are very opportunists.

...against NTAO's best and Russia owns 20% of what used to be Ukraine anyway...That should be embarrassing to NATO.
Try harder next time.

In the post above, I forgot to mention 90% of Ukraine's natural resources.
The rest of U is just farmland that should be given to Poland - just as the Eastern part of Germany was after WW2.

See: Wojna chłopska: co jest przyczyną konfliktu między ukraińskimi i polskimi rolnikami?

Your drunk troops are fighting the army of Ukraine - A medium sized nation that has never been part of NATO and at the start of the war didn't have much modern equipment.

They did have two advantages. A modicum of organization and the fact that they didn't get plastered by 8:30 AM every day

Of course since then they have got more weapons because everyone wants to see how their latest inventions work in a real time situation. Udmurtia is getting plenty of weapon supplied by your feeble Third World friends. in fact I just read today that Uganda is sending some airplanes to help your dipsomaniac Air Force

Ukraine is fortunate in that it can get its weapons from the rich and advanced democracy.

From a number of them. And Ukrainians know what they're fighting for... russians mostly have no idea....

The biggest crimp in Ukraine's actions has been concern for civilians (while russia actively targets them because..... russia).

Three, dear Polish boy. Three.
The third was and still is that Putin individually and Russians collectively find killing their Ukrainian brothers so repulsive that they are doing their very best not to do it.

Just look at the ratio of dead civilians per ton of explosives in Ukraine vs the same ratio of dead civilians in Iraq and you will see how "incompetent" Russia is in the civilian deaths department.

These dumb a-holes can't even kill as well as the US military. Maybe this is why Russia didn't attack America so far...

They were told they are fighting for "Ukraine's survival" - whatever this means. Just as the US military was told that they were fighting for America's survival in Iraq and other faraway places.

Did you know that the government's first objective is to learn how to lie to its citizens? Once a lie becomes the gospel of the day, the rest is easy...To make lies sound better, they spice them up with "our freedom and democracy". That gets the masses going...

@Novichok, the podcast I listen to 'Battleground: Ukraine' made an interesting point, they said that behind the censorship screen of Western media, Youtube is still available in Russia, they were surprised to hear this, but it makes perfect sense. The Russians have weaponised Youtube, filling it with anti-Western junk information.

This is the information you have been consuming and it is very strong stuff, I got taken in myself by it a couple of years ago. You said you managed to withstand the Soviet propaganda when you were in Poland, but they have managed to get you through this way.

'Did you know that the government's first objective is to learn how to lie to its citizens?'

In Russia maybe!! Turn off Youtube ffs!

Name three.


I know how propaganda looks. In my entire life in Poland until I left at the age of 24, not once did I see "Soviet propaganda" in my high school or na Polibudzie. Not even once.

Never saw a Soviet soldier, either. Nobody told me that religion was evil and I was free to go to church every Sunday.

It's like asking me to point out which part of the sea is wet. It's so ingrained, they have managed to get the ball rolling and now it is self-perpetuating. But the crucial thing to ask, is why do Russians allow access to Youtube? It's because it has proved to have been a very effective weapon and the benefits outweigh the risks.

Look at Bucha.... they're fighting to prevent the whole country from turning into Bucha.....

What are mobiks who aren't even being paid fighting for?

BS.

I can post three links to YouTube videos I watched. Do you want me to?
In fact, I already did it many times. Your turn.

I'm pretty sure those three videos would be perfect examples of what I'm talking about.

So how does the russian government lie to its citizens?

Give me the links to Russian propaganda on YouTube.

[quote]They were told they are fighting for "Ukraine's survival" - whatever this means. Just as the US military was told that they were fighting for America's survival in Iraq and other faraway places.

Basically all the videos you watched/articles you read that caused you to draw this completely f'd up comparison.

Name three Youtube videos you watched and concluded that they are "Russian propaganda".

I won't watch this, cause I've seen more than enough of SR to last a life time.... but here is russian propaganda disguised as a NAmerican political talk show....

youtube.com/watch?v=V428aCXDGks

How about you post one of your non-propaganda videos backing your point of view and I'll critique it.

Ho knows ho a ho!


read the thread that explains that the RF is a leftover, crappy, failing empire?

Which point of view? I have 1752 points of view.


That's not how it works among people with an IQ greater than 60.
YOU made the claims that YT has Russian propaganda. YOU deliver on this claim or STFU.


Show me one.

The point of view that Putin is just a poor innocent little freedom fighter standing up for Christian values. I'm not a theologian but teaming up with a jihadist and going on the rampage in a neighbouring country? I suspect that Pope Francis's approach is more in keeping with Christian values, uncomfortable though it is.

For him "christian values" means persecution of homosexuals and little else. Remarkably it resonates with a large number of right wing nutjobs in the US and Europe despite the fact that his regime is built on theft, violence and petty vengeance.

If you think Putin is some keeper of christian conservative values - you are very mistaken. He's an atheist and uses conservative values rhetoric as long as it suits him. I understand I'm not gonna convince you. But mark my words, something tells me you are in for a surprise.

He and his political allies in Russia did not speak out against the covid psyop or against the vaxx passes being introduced in some parts of Russia.