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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Novichok
29 Jul 2023  #2131

But for us and Ukraine this need is not an element of global game, it's our raison d'etat.

...but for Russia NATO crawling up to its doorstep since 1990 is not.

A reminder...Russia didn't go West. West went East.

My friendly suggestion is that you read twice before you post to avoid supplying the enemy with arguments.

Korvinus
29 Jul 2023  #2132

A reminder...Russia didn't go West. West went East.

The best form of defense is a pre-emptive attack.

Novichok
29 Jul 2023  #2133

Bingo!!!!! With debaters like you, I can finally stop debating, my dear Polish genius...You are so good doing it for me.

That's exactly what Putin said to his guys on Feb 23, 2022.

Thanks, Kor...

PS. Clearly, you ignored my friendly advice to read before pressing POST.

mafketis
29 Jul 2023  #2134

ussia didn't go West. West went East.

A reminder.... West is more advanced socially, economically and culturally than East. It has problems but those can be fixed.... the rot in the East cannot, partly because it can't be discussed.

cms neuf
29 Jul 2023  #2135

Why would Ukraine own 20% of Udmurtia? They are not criminal colonialists and until Feb 22 were perfectly happy to leave the Udmurtians in peace to drink themselves senseless in their wooden shacks

mafketis
29 Jul 2023  #2136

Russia NATO crawling up to its doorstep

"NATO enlargement is no more or less provocative than a burglar alarm is to a thief"

atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-was-never-about-nato/

Korvinus
29 Jul 2023  #2137

Clearly, you ignored my friendly advice to read before pressing POST.

For a moment I thought I sensed a distant smell of a burning garbage dump, but it was just Novichok opening his malodorous mouth and trying to express some semi-coherent thought. Please, don't do it in the future. Spare yourself an embarrassment.

Before WW2 living standards in Poland were low, but higher than in places like Portugal or Greece.
After 44 years of 'communust progression' brought to us by Ruskies we found ourselves way behind Greece and Portugal. 34 years later of quick economic growth and we're merely catching up.

That's the true result of Russian rule over Poland - a civilizational abyss that grew between us and the West. Only now we're slowly crossing it.

We know history does not stop. That's why we invest the highest amount of GDP into defense of all European NATO members (maybe except Greece) and see to that both NATO and our relations with the US are strong.

We're trying to be as prepared for what future brings as possible.

Novichok
29 Jul 2023  #2138

Spare yourself an embarrassment.

The only person who embarrassed himself is you. Let me remind you how you did it...

The best form of defense is a pre-emptive attack.

Putin followed your advice. This makes you a war criminal.

Korvinus
29 Jul 2023  #2139

Putin followed your advice. This makes you a war criminal.

Boohoo, I'm so scared. That's the whole deal with Russia. They invade those they consider weak. They cannot attack Finland now due to its NATO membership. They won't attack the Baltic States or Poland. But they did attack Moldavia, Georgia and Ukraine.

Often they miscalculate like with Finland in 1939 or Ukraine in 2022, but the rule remains.

Korvinus
30 Jul 2023  #2140

The best form of defense is a pre-emptive attack

Attack is the secret of defense; defense is the planning of an attack.

Great minds work the same way.

Velund
30 Jul 2023  #2141

The best form of defense is a pre-emptive attack.

This is exactly what Putin did last year..... But the amount and square shape of the sh*t that fell out of the Poles at that somehow does not show enthusiasm and approval.

I don't think you should expect the Russians to be happy about further NATO expansion. Rather Iskanders with tactical nukes will be permanently aimed at Helsinki and Stockholm after the appearance of the first foreign military on their territory...

Paulina
30 Jul 2023  #2142

The best form of defense is a pre-emptive attack.

Joining an alliance isn't a pre-emptive attack o_O

But the amount and square shape of the sh*t that fell out of the Poles at that somehow does not show enthusiasm and approval.

Of course it doesn't and rightly so.

I don't think you should expect the Russians to be happy about further NATO expansion.

Poland and other countries aren't happy about all kinds of things that RuSSia is doing either, but we're not invading RuSSia because of that.

Velund
30 Jul 2023  #2143

but we're not invading RuSSia because of that.

Just preparing NATO bases on the borders and fund various kinds of traitors inside to support further invasion...;)

Paulina
30 Jul 2023  #2144

@Velund, considering that RuSSia invaded yet another of its neighbours, there are RuSSian military bases in Belarus, RuSSian soldiers who attacked Ukraine from Belarusian territory and now also Wagner Group, there are RuSSian missile attacks coming from Belarus and RuSSia announced that RuSSian tactical nuclear weapons will be stationed in Belarus - I really, really see no reason why NATO bases shouldn't be in countries neighbouring with RuSSia.

And have a read:

nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_111767.htm

to support further invasion...;)

What "further invasion"?? RuSSia is as likely to get invaded as the US lol 🤦 Those two countries are the least likely states on this planet to get invaded, closely followed by China probably.

cms neuf
30 Jul 2023  #2145

They are not traitors - just ordinary Udmurtians Who have become sick of the kleptocracy and just want to live normally and have a fair shake a life. They can see how the Baltics and even countries like Moldova and Ukraine have become nicer places to live than Putin's empire of thieves.

Novichok
30 Jul 2023  #2146

This is exactly what Putin did last year....

That was the post of the year:

The best form of defense is a pre-emptive attack.

We agree, Mr. K.

Paulina
30 Jul 2023  #2147

That was the post of the year

No, it wasn't lol

We agree, Mr. K.

Would you also agree if a pre-emptive attack was directed against RuSSia and not the other way around? :)))

Korvinus
30 Jul 2023  #2148

This is exactly what Putin did last year.....

He's the Hitler that was stopped in Chechslovakia and had never had the chance to invade Poland.

Crnogorac3
30 Jul 2023  #2149

MICHAEL FLYNN EXPLAINS UKRAINE IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S A HUB FOR HUMAN/CHILD/WEAPONS TRAFFICK

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/i1XXPLWm3rTM/

For Nuland

For Kagan

For Strong Women

For Man-on-Man Anal

For Child Trannies

For mass Non-White immigration

For Jewish Central Banks

For Greta and Climate Change

For the (((Rules-Based-Order Of Global Democracy)))

Slava Ukrajina!

Paulina
31 Jul 2023  #2150

MICHAEL FLYNN

lol
This is RuSSia Today's expert, among other fishy things about him - hardly a credible source lol 🤦

UKRAINE IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S A HUB FOR HUMAN/CHILD/WEAPONS TRAFFICK

You mean for RuSSia?

pawian
31 Jul 2023  #2151

the rot in the East cannot, partly because it can't be discussed.

This rot will result in Russia`s collapse, like the USSR.
Russians have to change their political system completely, but more importantly, social one, too, if they want to matter in the world. Today they are like slaves - their rulers can do anything with them and they don`t complain. They are bathing in the cesspool, pretending it is jacuzzi. How long will they keep this pretense when other countries are speeding ahead and Russians are staying more and more behind????

Crnogorac3
31 Jul 2023  #2152

A woman on vacation in Turkey had a cap with Putin on it.
The Ukrainians attacked her.
The woman is the world champion in combat sambo. 😁

twitter.com/TheHumanFund5/status/1684568491851120641

She laid them out. 😁

This really made my day.

mafketis
31 Jul 2023  #2153

Tourist bus on its way to Crimea is overcome with feelings of shame at being full of russian tourists and self-imolates.....

hero bus! your sacrifice will be remembered!

twitter.com/EPICGOPFAIL/status/1685712025496719361

mafketis
31 Jul 2023  #2154

This really made my day.

I'm sure this will too....

twitter.com/IrynaVoichuk/status/1685959311439110144

russians shelled a residential building killing civilians including a child.... that must make you delirious with joy..... russonazis love killing Ukrainian civilians (after all, soldiers fire back).

PolAmKrakow
31 Jul 2023  #2155

@Crnogorac3
Looks like a Russian man with fake tata's and a beer belly. Must be an LGBTQ recruiting video. Come chop your c0ck off and fight real Ukraine women on vacation. This is the Russian way. Happy gulag biatches!

cms neuf
31 Jul 2023  #2156

People should boycott Turkey for their holidays unless they want to spend it with Udmurtian beer bellied slags like this one - Brits will be reminded of Biffa Bacon's mum LOL

On a serious note tourists should shun Turkey until it falls into line on Sweden joining NATO and joins all sanctions against the Udmurtians

Ironside
31 Jul 2023  #2157

People should boycott Turkey for their holidays

Why? Why should they? Turkey is making money and good for them...we should do the same.

On a serious note tourists should shun Turkey until it falls into line on Sweden joining NATO

You are not serious, you are PISss serious, normal serious people do not say things like that.
We should stop Sweden joining NATO untill their people in the EU back off from that plan of forcible relocation of illigal migrants.

By the way remeber those 200 Rosomcks? Sold to Ukraine? HA ha, PiS morons handed it over for free....!!!!
How about that? No wonder other countries take Poland for a joke and a dormat. Yes, boys, DAvos globalists and inept loosers.

pawian
31 Jul 2023  #2158

People should boycott Turkey for their holidays

Russians are everywhere in popular European resorts. You would have to boycott hundreds of places.

Turkey is making money and good for them...we should do the same.

Invite Russians? You are reasoning like Kania now. Amasing.

PiS morons handed it over for free....!!!!

Very good. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Ha!

Hey, fascist, you want to invite Russians to Poland but frown at sending Polish stuff to Ukraine for free. What are you? Another fekking putinist???

Cargo pants
31 Jul 2023  #2159

Russians are everywhere in popular European resorts

Before the war you could see so many russian cars in Poland esp tri city area and for the last year I havent even noticed one russian car but still plenty of Belarussian cars.

Bobko
31 Jul 2023  #2160

Russians are everywhere in popular European resorts.

Many people have 2, 3, and 5 year SCHENGEN visas. So you will still see many Russians for a little while, but after that the numbers will probably fall like a rock.

The usual Finnish, Latvian, and Czech visas people used to get like candy have become harder to get. My own European visa is set to expire, and I'm a little worried about which country I should apply with to have the best chances of getting another multi-year. My friends have been telling me they are getting visas, which essentially match just the dates of their travel.


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