Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 8

youtube.com/watch?v=YOLOWQ0M9sQ

Fun thing, "elves factory" operated not only in Russian, but also in 12 major EU languages, flooding social networks with millions of "comments" daily, spreading US DoS narratives. For example, in 2019 there was huge campaign against NS2 pipeline, and the same structure worked on it. Initially model was tested on brainwashing Russian-speaking Lithuanians, then upscaled after receiving funding.

PS (for those who able to understand):

Мы любить Россию не просили,
Ваша нелюбовь к нам - не беда.
Если Вам не нравится Россия,
Есть дорога "на хуй", господа!

BS. Of course you crave love, respect and admiration from all civilised nations of the world coz you are inflicted with hundreds of inferiority complexes. You can`t get it through positive attitude and actions coz they are out of your reach, so in revenge you behave like a sadistic cannibal recently pardoned by Putin.

Polak is the last in line for the right to say something about inferiority complexes. ;) Since you were humiliated in the 17th century, you carry a grudge against the whole world, but you are afraid to admit it even to yourself. ;)

No, we are first in line to comment on Russians coz we know them so well. Ha!!!!
Long ago a Polish reporter travelled through Russia and mixed with locals, drinking vodka with them. Each time, after a dozen or more shots, the eternal question from a drunk Russian mate was: Do you respect me?


Learn your history. 17th was still not so bad for Poland. :):):)


Even the US and Japan??? hahahaha buhahahaha

A superpower with Stage 4 cancer is a superpower only for so long and only in its sick mind.
I am beginning to like Polish metaphors.

I asked Google to translate...With my help, this is the end product:

We didn't ask to love Russia,
Your dislike for us is not a problem.
If you don't like Russia,
Go fu*ck yourself, gentlemen!

FFS Velund, why are you posting on an English language forum in an incomprehensible ancient alphabet?

...becaue he knows it takes seconds to translate it?

Why the fvck should we have to?
He is a primative Russian with no free brain.

To practice, you'll have to do it more often and more frequently in the years to come.

And I really didn't want to ruin the rhyme by translating it to the primitive language of the islanders. ;)

Rich, it is better to leave them alone in their poetic artificial reality. Arguing with Polak is like shearing a pig.

"And so his hyghnes shall haue theroff, but as hadd the man that sherid is hogg, muche crye and litil woll."
Sir John Fortescue, Governance of England, ch. X.

It appears Congress is at a stalemate and Ukraine wont be getting our tax dollars this time.

Will the EU step up to the plate and help them or will they do the usual little as possible....

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Hey, Z, I have an idea...There is money in "Monopoly"!

Or just print them C-notes...They are fake anyway...Nothing behind them...Just "good faith and credit" of spending addicts...

You got a printer somewhere, don't you?

Sometimes reality is faster than fiction...


spiegel.de/ausland/wladimir-putin-droht-lettland-tirade-gegen-nato-land-a-08ee39f3-4741-4727-ada0-e0c352bff88a

Vladimir Putin has accused Latvia of "swinish" treatment of the Russian minority. The relationship with the NATO and EU states will be shaped accordingly: "I don't think that luck will come to them." ....

There is only one way out, deporting said minorities...otherwise no russian neighbour with Russians in its borders will be safe, ever!

Russia will be thrilled.
I am assuming that those Russians in Latvia are not refugees from Somalia.
Just five years ago, that sentence would be idiotic...Not today...Anybody can now self-identify whatever he or she wants...so I worry about Russia...

Liking or disliking a country is largely irrelevant in times of war, Veli. If you constitute a genuine threat to a country's safety and well-being, then obviously you're not going to be popular among its population.

Before the war the attitude of Poles towards Russians was generally one of mild sympathy (remember the videos I posted?) or indifference at worst. It was rather Russians who were still bearing a grudge for the fall of the Soviet Union and the eastern block in general than Poles for the years of political/military domination over our country.

So, if the attitude towards Russia changed in the last two years, you can hardly blame Poles for that. Besides, who gives a flying f*ck about likes or dislikes? What is it? Facebook? ;)

Thing is Putin would never think of using Somalians as a reason to threaten a neighbour country....

He should stop doing that! In the worst case scenario the russian minorities will experience what the Germans did (my own family btw), during the "Vertreibung" after WWII...it's not nice!

I did notice that PF Poles are not outraged about annexing part of Germany. I guess holy indignation is a perishable commodity.
And selective...See Crimea.

.....well....that is only human, I guess....

You are right, BB. I just expect a more balanced approach and less venom from the people who did it themselves.

Poles did no such thing. The Soviet Union stole a large chunk of our territory and gave us some of the territory they took from Germany in return. We didn't ask for the "exchange" (which still left us losing territory the size of Czechia).


Again. Poles didn't "annex" anything. The borders were decided by the SU.

Besides, your comparison is extremely weak. Unless you want to claim that the actions of Ukraine towards Russia, and their consequences, were comparable to actions of the Third Reich against Poland and their consequences. Where's your iron logic, Novi?

@Torq
The beginning of the end of America? Interesting take. Since WW2, the USA has not committed the full strength of its forces to any war. Not once. Yes, they went pretty hard in Iraq in 2003, but not once was there the defining moment of a half million men or more going into any country. Imagine now if the US really wanted to go to war anywhere and sent everything it had. In a non nuclear war, who TF is going to beat 1.5 million men and women and a fully activated war time economy in the US? Saying the end of the US as a super power or anything of the kind is simply not looking at the facts of the US military and MIC.

Ukraine is in deep $hit now, not because of the US, but because of its own deception of the US and Europe regarding certain success's and for this failed counter offensive. It has failed and there is no sugar coating it. They will run out of money before the end of December and now Z is addressing congress today to come clean about things in a security meeting. Further aid to Ukraine is completely tied to the US border, and Bidens latest request has over 14 billion for the border, yet congress is denying that request. What will happen is that billions in cash that support Ukraine military, and billions in humanitarian aid will not happen and only a weapons package will be sent to Ukraine before the end of the year. The American people are beginning to be heard by even the democratic idiots spending money like crazy.

If they withdraw from Europe, as Novi would like them to, then yes. Definitely.


You are talking about the present situation and the US still dominating the world in military and economic terms. If Russia owns Ukraine and America withdraws from Europe with their tail between their legs, like they withdrew from Afghanistan for example - Novi's wet dream - then a chain of inevitable events will start unfolding, with China and Russia rising in power, dollar ceasing to be the most important international reserve currency, American economy sinking, no longer able to sustain anything even remotely close to their current level of military might etc. One doesn't have to be a clairvoyant to predict this.

In any case, Europe has to be prepared for such scenario and start to seriously beefing up our armies (especially nuclear forces). If the EU emerges out of it all as a more united block, self-sufficient in every respect, then maybe it's all for the better.

@Torq
The US wont withdraw from Europe. Poland, Germany and others want and will keep US soldiers within their borders. The US withdrawing from NATO only means no Article 5 commitment. It puts the US back in a position of making choices about what wars it gets involved with. While some people think the US is sinking, and I agree under Obama is was bad, Trump (my dislike for him is well known) had the country in a much better position, and Biden has turned the swamp into a sewer. The withdraw from Afghanistan was a Trump negotiation with the Taliban, and its execution was a disaster logistically by the military, no question. The demise of the US is being completely over blown. Imagine what happens if the US is attacked in any way again, and personally, I think its coming. Just imagine the response. It will make the 9/11 response look small by comparison. The US economy will be fine, inflation is slowing quickly. Russia is not going to rise in power, unless the EU lifts sanctions and starts kissing little Vlads a$$ again. China is s shrinking population and shrinking economy.

We agree though, Europe needs to be prepared to beef up its military. If the US leaves NATO, every EU country should have at least a nuke or two. But the EU has to evolve politically. The current version of it is not beneficial for everyone. Forcing laws on countries and forcing immigration policy simply divides the block. It should be a commecial block, and not a political one. Certain taxes funding military investment instead of some bull$hit Greta Thunburg expert climate causes.

Are you quite sure? Some people would seem to think that Trump will move towards some sort of "splendid isolation" if he wins the elections.


Or a hundred.


It's already happening. The process of closer intergration has started and whilst there is some opposition towards it, there are more people who support the changes.

just to be clear, the "swinish" treatment is

-no longer worshiping the USSR (and dismantling soviet monuments to itself)

-telling russians that they have to learn Latvian, they aren't expected to use it all the time, but they are expected to be able to use it as the common language of the country

that's it.... what's "swinish" about that ?

That is ending soon!

The more anti-immigration govs are going to be elected in EU-countries the more the EU itself will adapt it's laws...the EU is nothing alien from outer space after all! :)

It is worth noting that not anyone who speaks Russian is automatically loyal to Russia. Putin expected that the Russian-speaking Ukrainians particulary around Kharkiv would welcome his invading troops, yet they resisted fiercely.

Even Putin understands what Latvia is doing....

spiegel.de/ausland/wladimir-putin-droht-lettland-tirade-gegen-nato-land-a-08ee39f3-4741-4727-ada0-e0c352bff88a

....but I found the last bit of that text more interesting (translated by google):

....Putin expressed his understanding that every country requires its residents to have a basic knowledge of culture and language. But the status of non-citizens is a legal aberration, he said. Moscow will shape its relationship accordingly with states that discriminate against Russians. It could also help Russians abroad return to their historic homeland."If they don't want to leave but are expelled, then we can't change that, but we have to create appropriate conditions for these people," Putin was quoted as saying by Tass......

....I could guess he is also thinking about fresh flesh for his army?

@Torq
Americans don't want to abandon Europe. Trump hasn't said he wants all troops out of Europe either. Americans and Trump don't want to be forced into more wars. Its a simple concept. It doesnt mean the US would not chose to come to Europes aid. Why would the US come to the aid of Maldova or Ukraine with boots on the ground? Aiding Poland Germany, France and other countries that have strong ties to the US would likely still happen. It just doesnt make sense to start WW3 over Latvia or any other country that has a huge Russian culture, or where a strong minority is Russian. And Russia really is the only threat to Eruope.