Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 8

Did Lenin 'consult' about his revolution?

Maf is right; sovereignty is absolute. A country may change governments as their people wish.

Some countries will change governments for them. See Iraq.

America certainly does not abide by this, when the country in question has an American military base, a billion dollar American business, or is located somehow strategically.

Russians are large stakeholders in these countries. It's not unusual for us to be the number one investor, number one trade partner, and largest supplier of military kit.

If someone we feel comfortable with, is replaced with someone who hates our guts - we reserve the right to act. To protect our interests.

So what?

Ukraine is a sovereign state. They can choose their own government.

Great news about the fire in Rostov!

We can choose whether we want to recognize them or not.

We are within our rights to treat them as illegitimate.

From a Russian POV, the territory of Ukraine is one big legal vacuum. Their legitimate president resides in Rostov.

We had high hopes for Zelensky. He got elected on a ticket of ending the war. What a disappointment he has been.

Nobody obliges you to recognise ny given country or not.

And President Zelensky doubtless cares little about your hopes; his priority is repelling an illegal and unprovoked invasion of his country. Something he's shown himself to. be extremely good at.

Putin got elected on a ticket of "vote for me or you will be poisoned"

Who the hell are you Udmurtian losers to tell other countries who their president should be ?

And you won't be the largest supplier of military kit for anyone anymore anywhere - what you make has been proven to be uncompetitive rusty junk

I see old liver face Lavrov is popular at the OSCE summit with all decent people literally running for the exit rather than be photographed with a murderer

Well... at least we can "train" the electorates of those countries to learn to expect certain consequences when they elect governments antagonistic to Russia.

Just as we're not obliged to recognize them, we're not obliged to subsidize their energy and borrowing costs while they make preparations to enter the EU.

You like to hate Russia, you should also like to live in a cold apartment.

Like you losing a war you started.


Nice and warm here...

I don't live in an apartment

We don't need your gas - we will get it from Norway or the US but already I am using other energy sources

We are not scared of your nukes

I do quite like the amateur **** though so keep it coming

LOL but he does,and claims he can sell it too which he claims is worth 2.5 m,with falling apart windows in the pictures he posted lol.I tell ya ruskis are so much full of it.I have ruski friends and I see that in them


LOL Yeah! they can choke themselves with that and die a noble death lol


But they are from our nukes,lol see how they howl about them........all talk no action.

It's part of r*SSia's poor judgment and poor timing that they tried fuel blackmail at a time when the world is slowly moving away from fossil fuels and when the North Sea is being opened up to get the last reserves out while there are still countries in the West willing to buy it.

No. Ukraine is now an American wh*re. She fu*cks her own men for our MICC.

But what else you may expect from natives of Russian region that Lenin gave away to newly created artificial "ukrainian" state in beginning of past century? Yes, it was Russians, native on this land.

Decomposing in it nowadays.

It's a sovereign country, not part of another state.

No, it's a US welfare district. We pay for everything - including toilet paper.

girkin was born in moscow

russians, bad at geography with all the other things they're bad at....

pathetic little buggers....

Columbus was born in Genoa. What's next?

And the new world is not Italy! ... just the same as Eastern Ukraine is not russia!

As Vlad Vexler sayd (paraphrasing) dying empires always have problems figuring out the concept of "borders".... but maybe in a few generations, the people in whatever is left of russia will have that lightbulb moment.

We seen this. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Serbia, Iraq, etc, etc... Never had common borders with one dying empire.

No they are ethnic russians and ethnic Ukranians, whos grandparents fought for the red army in ww2, living in Ukraine, which makes them Ukrainian.

They didn't like the Maidan Coup, and let's call it for what it was, a coup. Yes Strelkov and others got involved and went across the border to forment an uprising, but that was not Putin's plan. In fact what happened in Eastern Ukraine in 2014 was a complete surprise to him. And Poroshenko and the far right volunteer battalions went a bit mad over there also. Ever heard of the Tornado Battalion? raping babies and stuff..

At least in Ukriane you go to court and jail for that stuff..
Unlike the third world savage country called ruski-land where they give you a medal instead.

Now the US is pushing back delivery of Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs. These GLSDB were supposed to be delivered this year with a range of 160 km and can be used on the HIMRS systems. These were being touted as game changers for Ukraine due to their accuracy and long range. Meanwhile Z is asking for more help preparing for winter war conditions and fortifying their positions. Z now also admits that the counter offensive this summer did not achieve the desired results.

Hungary now says it will block Ukraine from becoming a member of the EU. This just as the EU prepares to announce how it will tap into frozen Russian assets in order to fund Ukraine. And now in my opinion the EU is getting very stupid. It is one thing to impose sanctions and freeze funds, yet it is quite another to take funds that are not legally yours. The EU is walking a very dangerous line with Russia now if this happens, and frankly, I would not be surprised to see little Vlad lash out in a way as to take out a city in the EU somewhere just to show he is not going to take what is essentially theft. Two wrongs never make a right.

I've known a few people from the region, who despite speaking russian never considered themselves russian but always thought of themselves as Ukrainians.

The idea that speaking russian makes a Ukrainian russian was an old soviet one that had its greatest success with peasant moving to cities.
The grandparents spoke Ukrainian and their kids moved to cities and spoke russian and imagined they were 'russian' (you get a similar dynamic in Latin America with native americans moving to cities, switching to Spanish and creating fantasies about blonde grandmothers from Spain).

What you did have (emphasis on the past tense) was greater sympathy for russia in the eastern part of the country. But as Galeev described (verified by Ukrainians) that's dead and gone.


No, it was a small protest that turned into a large protest and the president fled the country rather than face the consequences of his corruption and misrule. And there have been three free and fair elections since (not the usual scenario for a coup).


This is true. Many, russian and normal alike, don't realize that putain is not a leader but a follower. He's not a dictator preventing russians from being free and happy, the russian public wants neither of those things. He has to give the public (many of which are boiling cauldrons of resentment) power fantasies and they live vicariously through his repression, imagining the purges and invasions they would like to carry out (see the russians here).

@PolAmKrakow


If little Vlad did not "take out a city" after the West started sending weapons to Ukraine, he wont start WWIII because of money that is already gone anyway.

Here's the official update from yesterday. Some other good news too; 1280 orcs deorced yesterday. 13 tanks and 32 apvs.

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Bobko and Velund might be able to add to this opinion but I think Alosza Awdiejew is a great russian actor. youtube.com/watch?v=cVwY8PDVTp4

Great shot of that railway/tram bridge in Warsaw too.

The US government doesn't want Ukraine to win (or rather doesn't want russia to lose too badly) and is full of mixed messages. Just exactly how they expected the Ukrainians to mount an offensive without any kind of air cover is a mystery (and military malpractice).

The US clearly wants a stalemate and I'm sure Ukrainians realize that (a Ukrainian I know says they came to that conclusion a couple of months ago) so hopes of creating a strong US ally in Ukraine are not... great.

@Tacitus
I disagree. Freezing assets is one thing, meaning they can be unfrozen at some point. But taking assets is no different than Russia taking parts of Ukraine. If anything, little Vlad will now feel more justification for invading and continuing to press the issues. WW3 is not going to break out if Belgium has a city bombed or Romania. And Belgium would be the ideal target considering its importance to the EU. Anyone thinking the US would go to war over Belgium needs to put the crack pipe down.

Reports coming out now that the Abrams tanks are now entering the fight. These could make a difference. The shooting range for them is twice as far as any Russian tank, and the shells can actually got through two Russian taanks if they are side by side. That kind of power is amazing. Still no new planes. But speaking about planes a Russian 737 made by Boeing had to crash land the other day due to parts beginning to wear out. Planes could soon just start falling from the sky in Russia. Russia is one of only five countries that are red flagged for aviation. The other four are the regular plane crash news makers.