Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

Political scientists in Poland refer to that as the "berlusconizacja" of politics.

About ruSSia, we sometimes forget that Stalin's main source of income throughout his life was journalism. If there was an unsigned article in Pravda, it was very often his.

I'd say these two play a very major role. If they didn't, all the authoritarian and totalitarian regimes wouldn't be doing just that - taking over the media, shutting down independent media and arresting, murdering and discouraging political opponents.


In Poland these days we usually call it "putinizacja" or "orbanizacja".

No need to come up with fancy names for something that has a name. They are not dictators - they are populists.

Like Trump, like Bolsonaro, like Duterte.

Now, if you will - Paulina - define for me why populism is negative.

?


They are not dictators - yet - but they're also not just populists. They're populists heading for authoritarian rule. With Putin being much ahead of Orban, obviously.


Because it's full of (bull)sh1t.

That probably fits just as nicely. I first came across the phrase when translating a political science book about 5 years ago.

It had some chilling warnings about both media ownership by politicians and their backers as well as increasing power in the hands of spin doctors who are also technocrats. AI will probably make this even worse

.


I'll step in to point out that the three populists you mentioned are wholly negative. Better to have boring but not viciously murderous.

Wonderful. I will take your manuscript, and share it with other policymakers.

Putin is "heading for authoritarian rule" ? LOL - let us know when he gets there

As Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, says - "Putin was given to us by God Almighty."

Putin, as God's emissary on Earth, has a job to clean the land of all nature of heresy.

Dictatorship is not necessary when you work with the Mandate of God.

He is not just the chosen one - he is also pretty handy at ice hockey, wrestling, flying a jet and deep sea diving

Though these days he likes to relax at his home - a protected bunker far away from his subjects

Do Russians always have to copy from us? "It is our duty to thank God for the gift of ruling party chairman Jarosław Kaczyński and his late brother, former President Lech Kaczyński", declared Archbishop Marek Jędraszewski at a mass marking the 72nd anniversary of the twins' birth.


Again, the same question as above.

We have to organize a summit between these two Holy Men, asap.

I'd rather Putin is in the company of Lech K.

ASAP

Too soon, bro, too soon...

Listen, I personally think that RuSSia these days has become in practice an authoritarian state. I defenitely wouldn't call it a democracy. But I'm not a political scientist and I don't know what RuSSia is being called these days.

Btw, this is the ingenuity of "putinisation". Not taking over the power in the country by violent military coup (or sth like that) and setting up an authoritarian rule right away, but taking small, gradual steps over an extended period of time. The boiling frog syndrome.


It would be so awesome if they killed each other lol

Russia will become a "democracy" when there are too many groups of rich people, for them to be able to form consensus between each other.

Russia, if I give my honest opinion, is neither a democracy nor a dictatorship. It's a corporation, with a strong CEO. It has various important shareholders, and then a multitude of "retail" shareholders. It has been so for a thousand years. When we become a democracy in the Western sense is when this group gets wider and diversified enough, that blocs within it begin forming and ossifying.

I agree that RuSSia is neither a democracy nor a dictatorship. But it isn't a "corporation" either - RuSSia is a country, not a company. You want to give it a nice name, but the reality isn't so nice. There is a name for a country like RuSSia and it's "personalist autocracy".

So many words when one is enough: Орда.

There's one problem though: Рю́риковичи kept the orda going for 400 years, Romanovs 300; Bolsheviks could continue the Orda for only 70 years, and Putin reached the tipping point in 25 years only. Something is going wrong with your Ordas - they degenerate and grow ever weaker with time. In times like these, an outside foreign elite is needed. Do I have to tell you with which country you should make a deal?

No, wait a minute...


... you already know the answer to this question. ;)

Vlad Vexler said a couple years ago that it's all about pretense.... part of the time it pretends to be a democracy and part of the time it pretends to be a totalitarian dictatorship (but does a bad job at both)


aka serfs

aka 'the masses'

Do you guys think that Trump can mediate a peace deal between RU and UA?

Because listening to RU propaganda, becomes clear that for RU, Eastern Europe should't be independent, they are willing to at most tolerate them as puppet states like Belarus, but don't see them as independent. For them, at most Ukraine should be like Puerto Rico is to USA.

Ukraine in other hands sees Russia as a bunch of guys that only brought misery, Tyranny, genocides and etc,

How you can make a peace deal among the two?

Trump couldn't mediate his way out of a paper bag.

Where does it say that it's the USA that has to dominate the entire world forever? Is it written in some holy book somewhere? Carved in stone tablets?


Independence is a vague and negotiable term. Are all EU states fully independent right now? Will they be more or less independent when the plans for future closer integration are realised?

Poland had to leave Warsaw Pact because of...

https://polishforums.com/history/pol-shorpy-photo-88175/15/#msg1951217

... but times are changing, the situation is dynamic, the USA are drowned in internal bickering and the EU is just keeping up appearances.

I know russian media is painting him as someone who'll secure Ukraine for them.... but I'm not sure. He sold Ukraine weapons after years of refusals by Obama and russia pretty well stayed in line during his tenure.

But anyone who thinks Trump will actually deliver on his promises needs to look at where there's no wall on the US/Mexico border.

To jon and Paulina:

Stop being a-holes and spell Russia correctly. You made your point and it's time to drop this childish crap.

We got it. Really...It's old.

Of course it's a dictatorship - two days before the invasion Putin wheeled out the rest of the government and asked them what they thought about anillegal invasion of their neighbor. Not one of these pathetic vegetables gave a peep.

Opponents have been poisoned, pushed out of windows, sent to Siberia and blasted out of the sky along with innocent air hostesses.

No wonder Ukraine wants to be free of these murderers

From nbcnews.com:

U.S. strikes more than 85 targets in Iraq and Syria in initial barrage of retaliatory attacks

The US has just declared war on Iraq and Syria but that's OK because the US is a democracy and that's why President Biden does not need US Congress to be involved.

That's how Western democracies work as opposed to dictatorships like Russia.

Quoting...

Western countries refusing to cooperate with probe into Ukrainian POW plane crash - Kremlin
States are afraid of "finding that they themselves are the answer" by taking part in an international investigation, Dmitry Peskov has said

Now...Why would these scumbags refuse to cooperate...Hmm...

It's actually so simple!!! The bastards don't like the truth - just as they didn't want to know the truth in Crimea. That's why they didn't publish any polls before or after the 2014 referendum.

Is there another application that extend your lifetime to watch all this stuff? ;) ;)

Kanja... Can you tell them how "peace deal" sounds ro Russian ear, and what is mean? ;)

Simple. Russia out of CDL. Ukraine in NATO ...hahahahahaha...

@Novichok

Much simpler... Plus one translation variant that Deepl is not offered - "told a lie"... ;)

• 
  Screenshot2024020.png
  

French military agrees with Russia on downed plane - AP
France has determined that Ukraine used a US-made Patriot missile to kill 65 of its own POWs

The French military has concluded that Ukrainian forces used an American-supplied Patriot air defense system to shoot down a Russian plane carrying prisoners of war, an official told the Associated Press on Friday. Russian investigators have reached the same verdict.

Eat sh*it, Russia-hating PF a-holes...