Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

@jon357
If I wanted to use put downs I would say things about you personally. I try not to sink to your low level. Not GAF is just a fact for most here concerning your take.

For clarity sake, "holding off" is not "taking back", it is not a move toward reclamation of land. Holding off is not a plan for winning. It is a plan for losers.

@Novichok
Vlad did want it, he went for Kiev. But I would say that his objectives have now changed and he only wants C,D, and L. Would also disagree Vlad wont attack Poland. I think its unlikely now because he has lost so much, but ten years from now if he is still in power, its more probable than not.

Let us all remember, the lefties here want all opinions considered, unless of course they are different from theirs. Then you become the deplorable, and unsccessful. Because of course, all of the lefties are so widely successful as evidenced in all the rainbow hair Karens screaming into the abys at every movements march.

You do. Words and thought aren't your strong points though so it doesn't work.


Military strategists are saying otherwise; they're quite clear about the strategy that Ukraine are using and only praise their endurance and the way they've worn down the failed fascist invasion.

Sometimes I wonder if you have sympathies in r*SSia's direction. Hopefully not, however Ukraine is far more deserving of praise than we see here. They've done remarkably well, especially since there were those who thought they'd just roll over and surrender in the first week.

The USSR invaded "those places" for reasons even my cat understands. Nobody, including you, cannot understand why Poland invaded Iraq.
Even the chief warmongers, the US along with its British wh*ores, can't, so don't even try to post your usual crap.
Russia's objective is to prevent the snake from swallowing U - just as the US would never allow Cuba to host a Soviet base.

So your cat understands greed and venality. Fortunately my cat, unlike r*SSia sticks to his own territory.

And r*SSia will certainly lose.

List what they lost, L, and what they gained, G. Then subtract L from G and tell us if the difference is worth your life.

I am already assuming that it was worth 500,000 U casualties, 20% of U land, 90% of U resources in D and L, and 200 billion Western bucks.


r*SSia may. Russia - never...
Do you know how to spell aSSole? If you didn't, now you do.

Do you mean cat toilet?

@jon357
Really a$$ packer? Notice the difference between disagreement with your opinions and a personal comment now? Your words and thoughts are socialist. Not exactly coming from a successful footing intellectually or in practice.

@Novichok
How TF have you put up with this level of Karens all these years?

It's actually very therapeutic. I am a very nice and loving person with anger issues I can't fix at home. Gun ranges and PF are where seek relief.

Once I sign off, I feel like I left a restroom after a spectacular number 2.

russia kills French humanitarian workers.....

kyivindependent.com/authorities-ban-foreign-humanitarian-workers-from-parts-of-kherson-oblast/


russia has already lost... it's like a rattlesnake whose heads been chopped off still snapping (and dangerous because of that) but invading Ukraine was supposed to make a positive impression on the world (if you read russian putain supporters back in early 2022). It was to be the debut of mulipolarity and a vigorous russia willing to throw its weight around...

hasn't quite worked out that way....

Ukraine has lost wide swaths of territory in Avdeevka. Critical ground lines of communication are at risk of being severed. Avdeevka has all the makings of a Debaltseve, Mariupol, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar...

On the one hand, this means we have more impotent Ukrainian attacks on random Russian targets to look forward to. Zelensky always acts up, when he feels cornered by current developments. On the other hand, this sudden retreat is very interesting - because it's happening faster than even optimist Russian analysts could have predicted.

The Ukrainian nationalist commentariat is enraged at Zelensky. Yuri Butusov, is recording daily videos blaming the high command for failing to rotate adequate reserves into Avdeevka. The artillery advantage for Russia has crossed over the 5:1 mark.

What lesson can we draw from all this, children?

I think the lesson is that Russia's chosen strategy of attacking along the entire frontline, with little pricks and jabs, but without any large territorial goals in mind - is starting to pay off. Just like bankruptcy, a collapse of the frontline can happen gradually at first, and then suddenly.

Several important factors are lining up, and for those of you who are military history buffs - you'll immediately recognize the parallels:

1) Exhaustion of manpower reserves
2) Depletion of munition stocks
3) Collapse in civilian morale
4) Intractable economic issues
5) Internal political infighting

I'm reading a lot of American analysts, that argue that since last Spring - Russia has actually fought according to traditional Soviet doctrine - and this is when positive results first started being produced.

Fighting, American-style with independent brigades was what sunk us initially. The Russian way of war is a lumbering, grinding, slog of relentless mass.

What results have been produced ?

Maybe 1 percent of Ukraine gained in the last 18 months

And for what ? The loss of resources and prestige will take decades to correct

Don't worry about Russia, little Polish boy. You have no skin in this conflict. In fact, thanks to Russia, you got a million U Polish future citizens to replace those who went West for better jobs. So be nice and send a thank you note to my dear friend, Vlad, the LGBT slayer...

That was while Ukraine had an ongoing, and relatively adequate, rolling wave of mobilization; was awash in Western donor funds, and had an excess of supplied artillery shells (to such an extent, that they briefly enjoyed an advantage).

Now Ukraine, for all the reasons I described above, is in an entirely different condition.

The rate of Russian advance can be sped up exponentially.

This is exactly what people like David Cameron and Antony Blinken are warning people about.

That's precisely what they are, and of course you're perhaps the worst example of a poor intellectual base, good choices or a successful life.

Ukraine however is doing absolutely the right thing and has the very best advisors.

Food for thought...

If in a negotiated peace, Russia keeps C,D and L. Maybe they become demilitarized or something along those lines, but still under Russian control. Then all the money for reconstruction of those area's would be coming from Russia. How does the west justify keeping more money of Russia's and giving it to Ukraine without Ukraine having to rebuild those areas? Thats a real problem for the MIC and the west in general. The west really cant keep that money which would be excessive to repair the remaining parts of Ukraine not controlled by Russia.

Does anyone really think in that scenario, which looks more likely, that sanctions on Russia would continue long term? Do enough PF leftist posters have the strength to admit that this scenario would be a complete defeat of the west? All lead by Joe Biden failing to give Ukraine what it needed at the very beginning of the war. Men and machines win wars, and Russia has more of both than Ukraine because of Joe Bidens failures, and Z's absolute $hit leadership.

@jon
Lets compare financial statements coxucker.

Well... if Russian-controlled Ukraine is imagined to become some kind of North Korea or Cuba, whereas glorious NATO and EU-aligned Ukraine becomes some 21st century Luxembourg - then the West needs all the possible money it can steal from Russia.

Those $300 billion dollars, would go towards setting up educational programs, which teach love for Critical Race Theory, Gender Equality, and Comparative Colonial Studies. They would go towards, funding agricultural subsidies for humanely grown cucumbers, and funding labor re-education programs which train yesterday's miners and metallurgists to become barbers and baristas.

Hey, Englishman, I am not PAK's lawyer but it annoys me when azholes like you get personal.
Did you notice what he said? He wrote: Your words and thoughts are socialist.
He didn't say what you are. That pleasure is mine.

Hey, jon, can you define a woman?

Quoting Bobko:

Those $300 billion dollars would go towards setting up educational programs, which teach love for Critical Race Theory, Gender Equality, and Comparative Colonial Studies. They would go towards funding agricultural subsidies for humanely grown cucumbers, and funding labor re-education programs which train yesterday's miners and metallurgists to become barbers and baristas.

In other words, leftist utopia like the one in Biden's America...

Here is a more realistic negotiated settlement

Udmurtia vacates all stolen territory
Udmurtia pays reparations
Udmurtia sends its war criminals to The Hague
Ukraine can join whatever organization it feels like

Once that is done then sanctions can be dropped and we might even let them play football again

Russia didn't steal anything. The only thieves are in DC and London. They even steal private boats.


No. Only those the Kremlin approves. Just as Cuba was not allowed to form a military alliance with the USSR and Vietnam to be communist.

And Iraq was not allowed to have nukes but India and Pakistan were OK.

Are all Poles ignorant azholes?

To be honest I would think that would be enough for Ukraine to regain Krym.

That would be a good indication of winning the war, all the rest of that territory, currently held by Russia is not that vital although there are some rare metal deposits I think.

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I think you have no clue about leadership saying those words. I'm not fond of Z but I doubt they could have found a better leader on short notice.

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If he is the same person I think he is, then he is a cretin, a perfect example of a political idiot with a very small following.

Seemingly fools like him have enormous egos.

@cms neuf
Unfortunately not realistic, and not going to happen.

@Ironside
Crimea should be the only focus when more weapons arrive. All or nothing approach. Mass mobilization and massive missile attacks. The bridge must be destroyed. Only then can Ukraine claim a real victory. I know a great deal about leadership. Leaders do not beg. They ask, and they lead. Leaders stand tall and strong and let their appointed experts do their jobs. Leaders act and look like other leaders in public. Z does not follow orders or listen to his experts or the other experts. His green t-shirt routine is old and not presidential. He has nothing new to say to motivate other leaders to help him. He didnt listen to the US when he was warned months in advance that Russia would invade. This man is out of his depth. He will not win continuing this way.

U will regain Krym the day after Russia regains Alaska.

Would that be the day after you grow a brain?

I doubt they'd want it since they have all of Siberia and of course sold Alaska.


You'd lose.

Let's compare criminal records and number of years in prison. That's an area you'd win since mine is zero.

Is it really your desire to join the Insult of the Month Moron Club?
Compared with your childish post, mine is off-the-chart brilliant. Pure genius, actually,...Nostradamus grade...

Another charlatan...

Interesting to read about that dodgy guy who used to be in TV where you are turning up in Moscow.

Yes, we are all holding our breath to hear what our Dear Leader tells Tucker Carlson.

Credit where credit is due - Putin is quite adept at destroying Western journalists.

The last one I remember was Megyn Kelly.

What about 3 and X? Everybody forgets about 3 and X.....

How do you differentiate between the various Xs, or Ks if we are dealing in English?