Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

Let me predict...

TC will field a bunch of softball pre-approved questions.

vvp answers will be tailored to sound fairly rational on the surface and appeal to west-hating westerners and republicans (big overlap) and will bear no relation to the genocidal ranting of state-approved russian media or anything russia has done to this point

repbulicans and some russian paid shills will ooh and ah about how rational putain sounds and russians will be able to kill more Ukrainian civilians for no real military gain and russian state media will continue its insane genocidal rantings about the need to exterminate Ukrainians who don't agree that they're really russian.


It's a diagnostic to see if people know what they're talking about. If they can't figure it out then they're likely uninformed and their opinion is of no value....

Don't spoil it.....

But Russia bought Estland, Curland and Livonia... ;) For real money, paid in full... And that is not prevented Germany from supplying local separatists with instructors and arms to separate it during trouble time in Russia. ;)

Why property rights of US must be sacred then? ;)

theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/feb/03/hbo-hit-tv-series-the-white-lotus-drops-actor-milos-bikovic-over-russia-ties

theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jan/25/ukraine-hits-out-at-hbo-for-casting-pro-russia-actor-milos-bikovic-in-new-season-of-white-lotus

And then those from the Ukrainian government wonder why do we hate them and wish them the very worst.

And you Russians and Russia lovers don't wonder why we hate you?And wish you the worst, which already seems to be happening......

Putin doesn't need Tucker to sound rational. He was rational years ago when he said that he wanted a neutral Ukraine and Crimea to decide its future.

Irrational was sending 100,000 American men to their deaths so that both Korea and Vietnam would have two corrupt parties, open borders, and an unpayable debt - just like the US, that model of rationallity and sustainability.

Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

None are part of r*SSia, all
Have self determination as sovereign states and none with for links with r*SSia.

As we've seen in Ukraine, you don't get what you want.


'Property rights' is a weird way to express it; the inhabitanta are nobody's 'property'.

When did Ukraine invade Korea and Vietnam ?

Never - because they mind their own business

You have to be tolerant.... poor old dear, he does get the wrong end of the stick so often.... at least he didn't poop himself this time......

'The White Lotus' Cuts Miloš Biković From Season 3 After Ukraine Called Out His Ties to Putin, Biković Says Firing Sets a 'Disturbing Precedent'

google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2024/tv/news/the-white-lotus-cuts-milos-bikovic-ukraine-putin-1235896011/amp/

twitter.com/MFA_Ukraine/status/1750209346666160293

the word you want is 'culls'...... you're welcome.

No need for putain loves in decent countries.

In other news not talked about by Karens and coxuckers, Ukraine has requested Canada donate 83K missiles scheduled for decommissioning. Canada is looking into whether or not these missiles can be used and safely transported before makeing a decision.

A Tucker Carlson interview with Putin, would embolden all Repubicans and independents to end support of Ukraine. Democrats would even pay attention simply out of their loving to hate TC. I dont think Putin is afraid to answer any question from anyone. He is nearly always very composed and makes sense in his opinions whether you agree with his positions or not. While he has a thug operational style, he is at least a real leader, and he is leading whether we like what he is doing or not.

We are proud of him, he stood his ground like Novak Djokovic.



nypost.com/2024/02/02/entertainment/hbo-severs-ties-with-pro-russian-white-lotus-actor-milos-bikovic-role-will-be-recast/

Ukrainians will become the most hated people, they will have problems all over the world wherever they appear, because of what their government is doing. They openly spread their hatred towards everyone, they don't choose. They have no reason, they have nothing. Pure hatred. I wish them all the worst.

All that plus he is an awesome ice hockey player

You do realize that when he is interviewed he chooses the questions himself ?

Do you understand that an Udmurtian interviewer who embarrass him would possibly be murdered ?

I used to like him when he was talking about the discontents of neoliberalism like vulture capitalism.... he was great on that and absolutely on target. But then like many without sound first principles he decided a strongman would solve his problems for him and he started sniffing the rear ends of thuggish dictators and would-be dictators like orban and putain and I'm over him.

biden has oatmeal in his head and trump built no wall. Tragic that a superpower like the US can't find any viable candidates who aren't ancient relics with no new or useful ideas or ability to put policy into practice. Idolizing another fossil (kgb thug) is not an answer to that.

Hopefully he'll have an accident with a blade.

Of course he's good at wrestling with bears and rising horses while topless.

And so good at good that he scored a hole in one at his first game.

One day he'll build a golden statue of himself.

In three of four responses to my post, we have nothing of substance. More of the same emotional bull$hit. And then people wonder why others are not convinced by their arguments. More personal attacks, and wasted time.

@mafketis
If not for capitalism Ukraine would have fallen two years ago. If not for capitalism, Poland would still be a Russian vassal state. You dont have to like the downside of capitalism which comes with a lot of low wage jobs, but you need to respect all it has done for the world. Your take on Biden and general opinion on Trump are well received. The US has a viable candidate in Kennedy, but he will not be good for Ukraine either.

I did not mention capitalism as such, I mentioned 'vulture capitalism' a subset of neoliberalism (not the same as 'capitalism' as such).

as I said, I liked Carlson when he was exposing vultures like Paul Singer

youtube.com/watch?v=UatnTSwEUoc


I'm fine with capitalism in its classic incarnation (private ownership of the means of production) it's one of the greatest advancements of human history and easily outcompetes every other socio-economic system.

I'm not fine with neoliberalism (the dominant political paradigm of the last 40 years which has worn out its welcome).

It's neoliberalism that gives rise to:

vulture capitalism (a legal form of mafia bust out) or \
opioid capitalism (see the Sackler family or fentanyl zombies) or
surveillance capitalism (see takedowns by Suzanna Zuboff) or
medical biocapitalism (is it any wonder that Paul Singer funds a lot of lgbt groups that have turned irreversible invasive elective medical procedures into big business?)

these are all abominations and equating them with 'capitalism' with no qualifications is wrong.

Again... a sugar daddy dictator is not the answer to anything.

You don't need to have capitalism as a pure system any more than communism as a pure system.

The most successful societies have a mix of both.


Unfortunately water finds its own level. Communism becomes totalitarian and capitalism becomes greedy.


I'd say that social ownership, cooperative capitalism and systems with strong workers' rights )and workers owning a stake in their business) is a greater advancement than greed.

@mafketis
You and I are on the same page for the most part. Capitalism for me is small business, not corporate capitalism that never pays its share. That said, socialism has no place in a capitalist world. No one should receive a free ride or subsidized ride because they will not work hard, or will not get an education. Those that chose to not work, or not work hard, should not be rewarded for the choice like they are in California. Only those that have mental or physical conditions that limit their abilities to rise above their station should receive aid, or those that are old and need help. That is what real capitalists want, and it used to be what the United States had.

If Tucker interviewed Putin as is now being reported, and Putin comes across as being open to peace talks or in some way willing to compromise, Biden has zero to combat against him. How does sleepy Joe tell United states citizens and tax payers that Putin doesnt want peace when he says he does to Tucker? Not only will funding for Ukraine be dead, but so will Bidens campaign.

That's not Socialism though, is it...

What you describe is more a failing of capitalism.


That of course is Socialism; a key part of Socialism is when society provides a safety net for those unable to work.

Of course he will.... truth means nothing to him and he knows what buttons to push to get gullible westerners on his side (including a large part of the German political establishment.... but that's a side issue).

republicans will breathlessly believe whatever he says in an interview with someone who is no threat to him than to what can be discovered on russian state media on a daily basis...

those who believe what putin says over what the russian government does are idiots... unfortunately a very large percentage of top republicans and democrats are funcitonal idiots....

Ukraine sent 100,000 Americans to their death in Korea and Vietnam one day after Poles stopped acting like azholes. Never.


In that sense, the US is a socialist country since Americans own corporate shares through their pension plans. Happy now?

no one cares what you think old man....

They're slowly on the way however that is certainly part of it, as is the state pension.


Indeed. It's like a vinyl record with a scratch.

@jon357
Your idea of socialism and what todays American youth think socialism is are two different things. And your opinion in or on the US doesnt count.

@mafketis
I really dont think you understand why Republicans want to be out of Ukraine or why the majority of Americans want to be out of Ukraine. The EU double standard of saying the US "can afford it", or any statement saying the US has an obligation is bull$hit. The US needs to spend money at home, period. Just like the EU and its member countries spend money at home first. It is what every country should do. And the US does not have any obligation to spend endlessly when Z will never negotiate. On the contrary, the US should force Z to negotiate by giving a time limit and expense limit. Which ever is reached first, means the end.

I noticed how PF azholes never worry about limits when spending American money.

Hey, Euros, we owe you sh*it.

When have republicans worried about that in the last four decades? When a party that facilitated mass immigration for decades and was behind a mass amnesty of illegal aliens and who worked tirelessly against a wall suddently does an about face.... I want to know more. I don't accept the new party line at face value. Why should I?

When was the republican desire for cheap labor (without much in the way of rights) overcome by civic duty? Just one or two describing their change of heart is what I want.

Without that I don't believe them (and you shouldn't).

But by the same logic your opinion on Europe doesn't matter ?

We know you don't owe us anything and we are fine with it. Let us all build our own nukes and you can sit back with a Schlitz and a Percocet and watch the baseball

nothing he writes matters

And opinions on economics and social welfare in the US don't count in Europe.

We have a variety of views and social/economic models in Europe; all but the oddest fringe views differ from your opinion which in turn differs from that of millions in your own country. And your own system has hardly served you well enough personally.

Ukraine will prevail, not because of some odd libertarian aynrandy 'philosophy' thousands of miles away, not because of extreme YouTubers like that Carlson person flirting with vicious dictators and not because r*SSia is in any way invincible. It will prevail because of its people's commitment, its effect rice leadership and because of the support of its neighbours.