Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

@Novichok
OK Rich, some of your points are valid, but most of them are not.

1,Russia liberated Poland? Are you a comedian?They continued to rule Poland for nearly fifty years, I don't call that "Liberation".
2.Russian patriotism is unmatched?Russian stupidity would be a better match.
Polish patriotism is much stronger than the supposed Russian one.
4,Did Russia really win the space race?Who landed on the moon?
5,Russia won WW2? Really? I think that was a combination of allied forces with lots of American help......
6. Russia hates NATO? And this is somehow a good thing?
7.Russia is not the aggressor in Ukraine? Are you nuts?Who invaded who?

In narcissism maybe. russians are socialized to think they're the greatest people in history.... when they look at the rest of the world that idea crumbles and the failure of the rest of the world to recognize their crappy culture as superior drives them into blind fury and narcissistic rage.

When it boils to the surface they go on a spree of killing people... usually Ukrainians.

sick loser culture (all the worse because they have no idea what losers they really are).

That sums up Russians for me.

russian "culture"

20 months of russian captivity....

twitter.com/AlexBondODUA/status/1756067268251795789

russia = world's worst "culture"

How did "the West" break the Minsk accords ?

I thought it was Putler who declared them dead, after Udmurtian backed drunk rebels had broken them more than 4000 times

Poor Margarita "total information control" Simonyan (head of Novi's fave RT)

She's wanted Tucker to interview putain for _years_ and now.... she's disappointed with the results....

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1756068542263296271

In other news... word is russia is going to outlaw colored pen/pencil sets that could be used to create..... rainbows.....

added: the Kremlin has censored Tucker on its website....

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1756051693358191055

News flash...

Biden denied Russian President Putin's position on the historical background to the conflict.

Biden met with at least Bohdan Khmelnitsky, Yaroslav the Wise, and Adolf Hitler last week, and they personally assured him that there was nothing of the sort!

And I met Stalin who assured me that he also wanted to give Crimea to Ukraine.

The Auschwitz inmates did. Quoting:

Soviet Forces Liberate Auschwitz | Holocaust Encyclopedia
Holocaust Encyclopedia
encyclopedia.ushmm.org > timeline-event > sov...
January 27, 1945. On this date, the Soviet army liberated approximately 7000 prisoners in Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Monowitz.

Since you lied responding to Item 1, I will ignore the rest.

No, I will not be debating the meaning of "liberation."

- How do you know if a Brit has stopped lying?
- By the foul odor and the distinctive stains on his skin.

Hey. have any of you armchair generals watched Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin yet?



Do you get any current news in Europe??

How about Bidens dementia meltdown yesterday, did you see that?

We haven't - it is banned over here in Europe for telling the truth

When we google it we just get pictures of a meadow with birds and flowers.

Try this link

nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-national-address-special-counsel-report-rcna138031

No. It is jammed on all frequencies by a transmitter in Wardenclyffe.

In Europe we spent all yesterday worshipping an effigy of Giorgia Meloni and queuing for hours to buy a Walls pork sausage.

when the german/EU liberal elite media politico.eu start sourcing analysts from the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft., you know it's time for negotiations and a deal.

politico.eu/article/western-europe-cant-ignore-its-eastern-allies-ukraine-poland-baltics/

"However, Ukraine's 2023 offensive has now clearly failed, with the fight locked in a stalemate at best and heading toward Russian victory at worst. As such, Western European countries and the U.S. seem to have tacitly accepted the eventual need for negotiations and some form of territorial compromise. And as hopes of Ukrainian victory fade even further, pressure for a negotiated peace is bound to increase."

Also Politico not happy about Oleksandr Syrsky. " "Syrskyi will kill us all," said one soldier, who like others in this story spoke on condition of being granted anonymity.

The 58-year-old Syrskyi, who until Thursday was the commander of Ukraine's ground forces, has a reputation as a hard-driving Soviet-style general who puts his men in danger to reach his military goals, said a person with knowledge of Syrskyi's operating style."


she is kinda hot and cool

That belongs to a German company. In Germany there's more sympathy to r*SSia than in many other places to do with their oil and investments.

The article is a an Opinion piece by a commentator; such things refer to articles from diverse sources and refer to different points of view, including foreign ones like the 'Quincy Institute'.

This is what the EU elite read, which even PiS and it's followers reference.


the fact that it got into politico is very significant, and represents a sea change, akin to a EU and/or Euro sceptic getting an opinion featured.

I'd say that they read a lot of publications,

Interesting that the article is very German-centric and dismissive of concerns from countries that border r*SSia. Interesting though not surprising given the source.

Of course, but let's not forget the EU is pretty much Germany, ie the Fourth Reich.

This is sadly true however the EU is slowly collapsing. German media have talked about Poland electing a government they perceive as favourable in the same sort of language that Hitler and Bormann talked about their "wunderwaffe" changing the course of the war while the shells rained down on the reichschancellary building and their 'high command' were all drinking looted alcohol and shagging each other in the upper level of the bunker.

I'd not read too much into that article, except that there are voices in Germany who would appease r*SSia for commercial advantage and that Scholz and Micron would dangle a mouldy carrot in front of Tusk to attempt to keep Poland quiet and plunder their capital, their labour, their skills, their resources and their sovereignty.

Game over. We tried. We failed. Time for negotiations with the terrorist state of russia. Not that much different from Saudi eh?


This war is ruining the European economy to the benefit of USA, India, China, also Phuket. Time for it to end.

If Britain had said that in 1940 when things were at their bleakest, Europe would be speaking German as a first language rather than English as a second, Poland and Poles would not exist and everybody would have to say 'Heil Scholz' and wait patiently for the light to turn green before they crossed the road.


In the U.K. and Ireland, the economies are growing. Poland is expected to outperform certain other countries, we should distance our continent from the exploitative economies in America and China and of course India is on the rise anyway.

@jon
the comparison is valid and invalid at the same time. I will have to compose my thoughts b4 i reply. But this is a war about historical border lands ie the definition of slavic ukraine whole different story than the Battle of Britain.


i am sure you are aware how inflation f$cs the working class.

Indeed, and that's for the trade unions to grow some balls. And of course it hurts the bourgeoisie more.


Basically irredentism, the curse of Eastern Europe.

We didn't let Germany have 'lebensraum'. Why would we let r*SSia have it (and Germany get it economically by buying everything worth having in Poland)?

Damn, that's exactly what I do.🤔

@cms neuf
Since you are the only person brave enough to ask about the Minsk Accords, here is what the West did through Ukraine.

While neither side stuck to the cease fire agreements completely. Both de-escalted military actions. I personally was in Donetsk after these agreements were made the first and second time. From time to time fighting or shooting broke out, but not full scale action.

Luhansk and Donetsk were to be "special" self ruling, with their own elections, but still part of Ukraine. Ukraine would still manage the national border with Russia. The local elections agreed to never took place and instead only National elections took place. This violated the self management or self rule portions of the Minsk Accords. Ukraine has admitted this.

Social and economic reintegration of Luhansk and Donetsk did not take place as Ukraine blocked all of those items in order to bring a collapse of the economy in those regions. Ukraine isolated the entire Donbas region and litterally financially starved the people in those regions. This violated the Minsk agreements and further deteriorated the lifes of people in those regions. Ukraine has admitted this.

Merkel came out and said, the west never intended to honor the Minsk agreements and they were only meant to buy time for Ukraine. Ukraine has admitted this as well and Z has said publicly that Minsk 2 would have been "impossible" to implement. This from the man who ran for office on the premis he would make peace with Russia. Obviously, both sides violated these agreements. The difference being that Ukraine never intended to honor them, and by that admission, can we really blame Russia for saying fvck it, now these two republics that Ukraine agreed would have self rule in Minsk 2, can become part of Russia. Really thats what happened, without all the politcal back and forth. Not that Russia is justified in this war, they are not. Ukraine and the west brought this on Ukraine. The west lied to make a deal that would not be honored, and the west is responsible for pushing a Dictator to a point they knew he would go in my opinion.

Ukraine now, needs to make a deal. Even if the new aid bill gets done in the US, they have less than ten months to make something happen. This new military leader is a Soviet trained general. A huge mistake on Z's part. It is time to negotiate, because once Russia starts shooting US made planes out of the sky, and they will, Z will have no leg to stand on trying to argue there is a path to victory.

You are talking about Ukraine violating the agreement- might be true but so did Udmurtia, many times.

What did "the West" do to violate the agreements ? So far you have something "Merkel said"

@cms neuf
Wow, really? You are so emotionally locked into wanting Russia to be defeated you wont even look at the facts that Ukraine has admitted to. When you make an agreement knowing you wont keep it, which the west did along with Ukraine, and then you make a second agreement knowing Ukraine has said it would be impossible to implement, you are nothing more than lying POS. All this is public information. All factual, and all admitted to.

Then you have Johnson showing up 2 months into the war, telling Ukraine not to sign off on the peace treaty being worked on and that continuing to fight will be better. Fact.

Russians are lying POS. Yes, we know, and agree. The West are also lying POS when it comes to Ukraine, and Ukraine is lying POS when it comes to the Minsk accords. Frankly, when you break a deal and it comes back to bite you in the a$$, you deserve it. The problem here is the West and Ukraine put innocent Ukraine civilians in the line of fire, and they didnt GAF. But hey, why not just call the Russians names and say what scum they are without actually looking at how everyone involved is responsible. Thats the easy way to watch the war.

Well, Putin's message to Germany is different m, he talks about American imperialism and a need to get rid of American presence in Europe as well as hinting that is time for Germany to regain independence and expel American forces from German soil.

I'm sure he hasn't told Tucker that.

By the way, there is no need to chirp about the Minsk agreement, The root of that war is in the 90', when the US made Ukraine give up its nukes and promised to keep it independent, Now, you can all stop whining.

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There is something wrong with me, I wouldn't ever expect that. I agree with every word you posted here in your last three posts about Poland. The EU, Germany, and Europe. wow, Is it me or someone else is posting using jon account>?

it was called federalisation of Ukraine, something you yanks might be familiar with. Minsk 2 was a process, the only problem was the parties disagreed which part went firstt Of course Poroshenko and his ne00-nazi mates had their say, on the the streets, and in the war.