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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



Ironside
17 Feb 2024  #1441

are an expert after spending 30

I know when I see trash that it is still trash and you haven't changed that much after 30 years but now it is time to go where you belong a bin!

Tacitus
17 Feb 2024  #1442

@Ironside

Which Poland did

When? Poland delivered old Soviet equipment to Ukraine and then requested reimbursement from the European Peace funds. That is not what making sacrifices means.

Poland needs to step up and deliver new equipment worth 2 bn each year to Ukraine without incentive from Bruessels. That is what leadership means.

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1443

they just give him some time and tolerate a lot

Telling our German members such basic things about politics in any country is like telling an adult person that the earth revolves around the sun. Can`t you do any better? Stop treating them like idiots.

When? Poland delivered old Soviet equipment to Ukraine and then requested reimbursement from the European Peace funds

And quite correctly coz nearly 300 tanks, a few dozen artillery pieces and a lot of other armament were a substantial part of our land forces. If Russia struck right after we had sent them to Ukraine, we would have had a problem.

Ironside
17 Feb 2024  #1444

While

Stop talking to me and stop trying to tell me what to do you old commie moron. Who the hell do you think you are? You all post-commie boomers are such a brazen lot and rude like hell.

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Which ones?

Those are details nothing drastic.
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Tacitus
17 Feb 2024  #1445

If Russia had managed to overrun Ukraine despite the latter receiving those weapons, then they would have hardly made a difference in the first place. Poland would have needed to modernize its' armed forces anyway and sending them to Ukraine where they were used to fight Russians instead of the junkyard was more effective.

Poland did its' part in the first year and then increasingly dropped out. This war will probably drag on for many more years and we need everyone to contribute accordingly. Especially when it is so cost-effective.

And don't get me started on showing leadership.

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1446

He is less popular than you think

hahaha

Tacitus and BB, see the latest surveys from main polling agencies and see how Iron is lying. Tusk`s party has been gaining more support steadily since the elections and eventually has overtaken PIS.

tvn24.pl/polska/wybory-2024-najnowsze-sondaze-partyjne-cbos-united-surveys-opinia24-ibris-zestawienie-sondazy-st7719766


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Ironside
17 Feb 2024  #1447

And don't get me started on showing leadership.

Well, well look into the mirror who is talking?
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latest surveys from main polling agencies

sure, all those polls are so accurate and who is paying for them? lol! Are you trying to gaslight people or do you really believe it?

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1448

Stop talking to me and stop trying to tell me what to do

I won`t stop, I will point to and denounce all your lies about Poland, Poles and Polesses. If I didn`t allow Atch to lie, do you think I will make an exception for you, stinking liar?

do you really believe it?

And you never believe the surveys and always hope your nazio Konfederacja will gain 50% support but it never does and always gets 7% like the survey predict. Amassing, isn`t it????? hahahahaha

Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2024  #1449

Tacitus and BB, see the latest surveys from main polling agencies ....

The first two are quite close, aren't they.....and both are gaining....

Tacitus
17 Feb 2024  #1450

@pawian

Tacitus and BB, see the latest surveys from main polling agencies and see how Iron is lying

I know, which is why I mentioned Tusk high approval rating.

Konfederacja will gain 50% support but it never does and always gets 7% li

Good point. I remember how some people claimed that they would far more votes.

Well, well look into the mirror who is talking?

Germany started slow, but is now showing real leadership on Ukraine. Approving more and more aid, signing a security agreement with Ukraine, paving their way into the EU membership program, encouraging German defense companies to invest into Ukraine by guaranteeing their investment. Rheinmetall just announced that they will build another factory in Ukraine.

google.com/amp/s/barrons.com/amp/news/germany-s-rheinmetall-to-produce-munitions-in-ukraine-b986b5ff

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1451

Germany started slow,

Goddess bless Germany and all Germans and Germanesses.

Ironside
17 Feb 2024  #1452

all Germans

don't forget to rim them, you old clown!

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1453

Go to Strzelec with such requests!!!

Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2024  #1454

don't forget to rim them, you old clown!

....ssshhhh....let him....that is a day for the history books!!! :)

Mr Grunwald
17 Feb 2024  #1455

very few common interests

While those few are a very big deal to both Poles, Germans, Germany and Poland.

Poland came to fruitation due to expansion of HRE, a United western Slavic country. Germany as a modern state came out as a necessaty due to internal power struggle within HRE and invasions by Sweden and France.

I think it is in both Poland's and Germany's interest keep their backs safe so as to focus on other neighbours elsewhere. I think it worked very well for German population and Polish population in the crownlands throughout centuries before ideological conflicts took a very stern root with peoples and rulers minds

mafketis
17 Feb 2024  #1456

Meanwhile.... where is Navalny's body?

Apparently his mother went to claim it and it's not in the only morgue around....

And the kremlin has changed the cause of death....

Supposedly the body was sent for more research (by the people who killed him)

russia, russia, russia.... why are you such a loser country?

mafketis
17 Feb 2024  #1457

In St Pete, an orthodox priest wants to hold a memorial service for Navalny...... you guessed it. He's been arrested....

twitter.com/novayagazeta_en/status/1758805550429507981

Tell us again how putain's russia is about traditional Christian values?

Feniks
17 Feb 2024  #1458

Apparently his mother went to claim it and it's not in the only morgue around....

Bit of a give away that he didn't die a natural death.......

And the kremlin has changed the cause of death....

To ' sudden death syndrome' apparently. An affliction suffered by many of Putin's critics.......

Ironside
17 Feb 2024  #1459

Germany started slow,

I think arguing over facts with you is pointless because you only see what you wnat to see and ignore all the rest. I'm only saying good luck with your miliatry help for Ukraine.

Do you think you can guarantee their safety and do it without Poland? Looks like you think that Poland is only a doormat that lies between Germany and Ukraine.

Don't come running here and shouting foul when you find different.
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Germany as a modern state came out as a necessity due to an internal power struggle within HRE and invasions by Sweden and France.

The Polish Crown indulgence to their Prussian province I would say!
The general rule of cooperation would be simple if there is a conflict of interest when it comes to a firm, they either left to a fair free market competition or the lines redrawn on both sides, tit for tat, with no interference in Poland developing its infrastructure, nor interference into internal Polish affairs and Poland can promise the same.

It is not that complicated after all. However, when money, greed, and prejudice are at play is not that easy to implement.

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1460

only see what you wnat to see and ignore all the rest.

That`s exactly your problem. You are heavily troubled with your silly nationalism and refuse to see and accept anything outside it. If Russians promised to you that Polish nationalists like you would be allowed to rule Poland after a successful invasion, you would happily grab the opportunity to get rid of all people and ideas you hate.

Novichok
17 Feb 2024  #1461

OK, boys, let's cut the bs...
Ten years from now, who will have CDL? R or U?
My vote is for Russia. So it's 1 to 0.
Anybody else?

pawian
17 Feb 2024  #1462

OK, boys, let's cut the bs..

Says the major bulshyyter of the forum. hahahaha

jon357
17 Feb 2024  #1463

where is Navalny's body?

Burnt quickly due to novichok probably...

mafketis
17 Feb 2024  #1464

who will have CDL? R or U?

What about 3 and X? If you can't answer that then nothing else you write should be taken seriously.....

mafketis
17 Feb 2024  #1465

Miichael Johnson who bears a very large load of responsibility for not passing the Ukraine aid bill..... accepted campaign donations from a company mostly owned (88%) by russians, including one convicted for acting as a foreign agent.....

twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1758945238045868213

never was about the border.....

Alien
17 Feb 2024  #1466

Miichael Johnson

Michael Jackson?

mafketis
17 Feb 2024  #1467

Kannst du nicht lesen oder sollte das witzig sein?

Alien
17 Feb 2024  #1468

sollte das witzig sein?

this must be assessed by others.

Tacitus
17 Feb 2024  #1469

@Ironside

Do you think you can guarantee their safety and do it without Poland

If I believed that, I would not request more support from Poland. If we want Ukraine to prevail, we need every European country to step up.

that Poland is only a doormat that lies between Germany and Ukraine

If I thought so little of Poland, I would not bother to write on this Forum. I have great sympathy for Poland and I am eager to see it live up to its' potential. Which admittedly made the last 8 of self-sabotage via PiS all the more frustrating, but it looks like that there may be hope yet.

jon357
17 Feb 2024  #1470

never was about the border.....

Of course not.

The thing about Johnson is news to me and is a sad thing, however what they're actually up to on that side of the house (and who's behind it) is fairly obvious.

we need every European country to step up.

We'll be waiting a while for Serbia, Hungary and one or two others.


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