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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



Poloniusz
18 Feb 2024  #1471

If we want Ukraine to prevail, we need every European country to step up.

Step up and do what?

The EU along with many other countries around the world has already sent billions of euros to Ukraine and provided military training to Ukrainians.

Additionally, tens of thousands of citizens from various countries have voluntarily joined Ukraine's Foreign Legion. So why haven't you?

Rather than expanding the war just to save Zelensky, Ukraine needs to get rid of that corrupt, degenerate, grifting buffoon and enter into serious negotiations with Russia to end it.

Novichok
18 Feb 2024  #1472

Rather than expanding the war just to save Zelensky, Ukraine needs to get rid of that corrupt, degenerate, grifting buffoon and enter into serious negotiations with Russia to end it.

Amen.

Joker
18 Feb 2024  #1473

Ukraine needs to get rid of that corrupt, degenerate, grifting buffoon

Finally, someone is making sense around here.

Novichok
18 Feb 2024  #1474

When the $60 billion aid package is exhausted, what next?

johnny reb
18 Feb 2024  #1475

Life is short.
Spending it arguing politics on the internet with strangers all day every day just doesn't seem very productive.

PolAmKrakow
18 Feb 2024  #1476

When Ukraine gets this 60 billion or so, that should be the end of US support. Give them the planes and weapons they need to make a breakthrough, and if they dont follow instructions, or dont break through, then its over for US support. Enough is enough. Z is not a leader, and everyone around him is stealling like never before. Want to buy a weapon in Kiev? No problem, a friend of mine, American living in Kiev, bought an out of the box AK with two full clips of ammo for $300 USD. Said its never been fired and still has the factory oil on it. Former US Army and trained, but still, he said it took him a half a day to get one. Ukraine, the only thing thats changed is that prices have gone up.

amiga500
18 Feb 2024  #1477

Want to buy a weapon in Kiev?

Like Sweden now du to the Balkan wars, after the Ukraine war is over, Poland will be flooded with illegal weapons. Also tens of thousands of Ukri men with military experience coming over the border to find their wife has a new polish boyfriend and of course massive gang warfare. I'm sure your mate could buy an RPG and more too.

Ironside
18 Feb 2024  #1478

could buy

It would be wise to have a nice stash here and there just in case Tusk turned fully totalitarian.

mafketis
18 Feb 2024  #1479

In 'russians are pathetic losers' news..... note how brave russians stand up to repression.... they bravely run away

twitter.com/raging545/status/1758928095208153546

PolAmKrakow
18 Feb 2024  #1480

@amiga500
He said he could get just about anything he would want within a day or two if he wanted it. And I agree, but there are probably thousands of weapons already here. Border is not very tight and men are sneaking across from Ukraine all the time. Funny you mention the Ukraine wife situation, we witnessed something like a woman being caught by her husband or BF just the other night in planty. Was funny till the police showed up.

jon357
18 Feb 2024  #1481

russians are pathetic losers

Interestingly, Navalny's body has turned up. Covered in bruises apparently.

mafketis
18 Feb 2024  #1482

It's been pointed out that during his snooze-fest interview with cucker, putain mentioned Poland about 30 times.

That's a lot for a non-ex-soviet country that's not a direct belligerent in the current war.... Noah Smith even thinks he's already laying out Poland as the next wayward colony to be subjugated....

noahpinion.blog/p/the-ukraine-war-is-ultimately-about

how much longer before the PRRs (pro-russia-republicans) start criticizing Poland?

Tacitus
18 Feb 2024  #1483

We'll be waiting a while for Serbia, Hungary and one or two others.

Yeah, but there are Spain, Portugal, Italy, Belgium, to name a few who could conceivably do more just to name a few ones that are realistic.

@Poloniusz

worl d has already sent billions of euros to Ukraine and provided military training to Ukrainians.

Which sounds like much, but war is very expensive. Yet it is massively cheaper to aid now Ukraine than deal with the consequences of a victorious Russia.

Russia needs to get rid of that corrupt, degenerate, grifting buffoon

Fixed that for you. Though of course Putin has also recently reminded that he is also murderous and vindictive.

jon357
18 Feb 2024  #1484

could conceivably

Could conceivably. Remember that there are a few European countries that are either neutral or actively support r*SSia.

@Tacitus
Could you put names in your quotes like every other poster? It's weird not to do so and makes it hard to k ow who you're replying to.

Why do you remove them?

Novichok
18 Feb 2024  #1485

Which sounds like much, but war is very expensive.

Then don't have one if you can't afford it. I don't have a private jet because the landing fees are too high.

Yet it is massively cheaper to aid now Ukraine than deal with the consequences of a victorious Russia.

Go ahead...Who is stopping you...You almost made it to Moscow way back so kicking Russian ass out of CDL should be a walk in the park for Germany.

Putin has also recently reminded that he is also murderous and vindictive.

He didn't murder anyone. Let me explain so slowly that even you will understand...

Why would Putin want him dead? How many people would have to be involved to carry out his order to assassinate a guy in a Siberian "gulag"?

Answer these questions and pierdolnij sie w glowe...

Hey, PF Russia-hating Poles, you are not the only idiots here. That should make you feel better...

Tacitus
18 Feb 2024  #1486

@jon357

Remember that there are a few European countries that are either neutral or actively support r*SSia.

Hence why I did not mention Ireland, Austria or Switzerland. But Italy, Spain, Portugal and Belgium are neither neutral nor in support of Russia. They are helping Ukraine, but not proportionally to their capabilities.

@Novichok

He didn't murder anyone

Not with his own hands sure. But there can be no doubts that he has personally ordered the deaths of hundreds of opponents at this point. Navalny is just the newest victim. Russia's most prominent political prisoner was certainly not murdered at the initiative of a local prison warden.

mafketis
18 Feb 2024  #1487

Why would Putin want him dead?

Lots o' reasons....

one less person willing to criticize him in public

millions more now more scared to speak in public

election coming up, need to impress upon the serfs the need to not act up in public

he gets off on it (sick I know but it is putain we're talking about)

humiliate cucker (who's talking the fall for the failed interview)

I'm sure there are others

jon357
18 Feb 2024  #1488

Ireland, Austria or Switzerland

Or Serbia, Macedonia, Norway, Turkey or Albania. Switzerland is an odd one; the large amount of r*SSian loot salted away there has a role.

@Tacitus
You didn't answer about the names you remove from quotes.

Poloniusz
18 Feb 2024  #1489

Then don't have one if you can't afford it.

Exactly. This Tacitus character refused to answer my earlier question as to why he never joined Ukraine's very own Foreign Legion for warmongers like himself.

The reality is that warmongers like Tacitus are always willing to fight a war to the very last drop of someone else's blood and the very last coin in someone else's pocket.

Tacitus
18 Feb 2024  #1490

@jon357

You didn't answer about the names you remove from quotes.

I don't remove anything, the name is not in my quotes from the beginning.

@Poloniusz

The reality is that warmongers like Tacitus are always willing to fight a war to the very last drop

The only warmonger is Putin. If it was up to the Ukrainians and any decent member of this forum there would be no war. This war only happened because Putin wanted it and it only continues because he wants it to. He could stop it at no real cost to himself and his country (in fact Russia would greatly benefit from this) while the Ukrainians do not have that luxury.

jon357
18 Feb 2024  #1491

anything, the name is not in my quotes

Why not?

And if there's a fault, why not add them manually?

The only warmonger is Putin

This is true.

fact Russia would greatly benefit from this

The longer it goes in, the more damage in Ukraine, the more Ukrainian lives lost, the higher their already astronomical reparations will be.

It will be a long time before they can export anything to the west again, and of course the longer it goes on, the more alternative sources of energy will be in use.

Bobko
18 Feb 2024  #1492

The longer it goes in, the more damage in Ukraine, the more Ukrainian lives lost, the higher their already astronomical reparations will be.

Mhmm.

It will be a long time before they can export anything to the west again

How do you square this statement, with the one above? Hmm?

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As I understand it, this is your thought process:

1) Ukraine must be rebuilt by Russia.
2) Russia must not be allowed to earn anything.

It feels like some kind of Catch-22, no?

If your prescriptions are followed, seems then that both Russia and Ukraine will be f*cked. Oh well, this has been my read of your intentions since the start of the conflict anyway.

jon357
18 Feb 2024  #1493

It feels like some kind of Catch-22, no?

Yes.

It will take a very long time for you to repair the damage you've done, and even longer to regain a standard of living equal to Romania in the 1990s.

At least people there are used to living in huts with no running water already.

Poloniusz
18 Feb 2024  #1494

while the Ukrainians do not have that luxury.

Oh but they do! Literally!

Ukraine says corrupt officials stole $40 million meant to buy arms for the war with Russia

apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-corruption-476d673cc64a4b005c7ee8ed5f5d5361

Zelensky's Corruption Problem

"In the past, it was unclear how this corruption affected people's lives in Ukraine-now it's very clear that corruption inhibits Ukrainians' ability to defend themselves,"..."Because the country's economy has changed, now the corruption is inherently linked to the war effort."

newsweek.com/ukraine-zelensky-corruption-problem-1863644


  • zelenskyyneedshis.jpg

Bobko
18 Feb 2024  #1495

It will take a very long time for you to repair the damage you've done

So then, you really could not care less about Ukrainians?

A prosperous and free Russia, is Ukraine's shortest path to the same. Not the other way around, as we have been told for close to 30 years.

Bratwurst Boy
18 Feb 2024  #1496

Zelensky's Corruption Problem

So....and a russian victory would better that how?

Novichok
18 Feb 2024  #1497

The reality is that warmongers like Tacitus are always willing to fight a war to the very last drop of someone else's blood

These azholes are too scared to say whose blood they want to spill and whose money they want to spend... It's always American blood and American money. Because it's good for us...

Fvck you, Euro weasels...As Trump said, Russia, go get them!

Yes, I am pis*ed off and I can't stand you, morons, with your arrogance and fake concerns...

Bratwurst Boy
18 Feb 2024  #1498

....there is no amercian "blood" involved....and I doubt there will be!

And I don't think Trump is so russian-friendly, after all would a president Trump be good news for Israel who wouldn't demand from Netanjahu to be more "careful" about Gaza, another point where Trump and Putin would clash.

I foresee generally no comradeship between Trump and Putin....Trump isn't a Biden or some euro Weasel, he will show Putin he has balls!

PolAmKrakow
18 Feb 2024  #1499

Anyone promoting the continuation of this war from either side is a warmonger. Anyone not advocating for a peaceful resolution, and negotiations, is advocating for the continued loss of life.

Bratwurst Boy
18 Feb 2024  #1500

....oh everybody and his grandmom is advocating for a peaceful resolution, it's Putin who still has his troops inside Ukraine...somehow he plays deaf and doesn't want to listen....I dunno why! *shrugs*


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