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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



mafketis
22 Feb 2024  #1801

ussia is advancing along the whole fron line of contact

It's advances are due to the US starving Ukraine of ammunition by Michael "I take russian money" Johnson.

Time for everyone to get realistic.

So tell ukraine to surrender and turn the whole country into Bucha....

I dont believe Russia will attack anyone else in the next 8 to 10 years.

Despite the fact that they're ramping up weapon production and regularly announce their intentions to take back the Baltics... would you trust the republicans to agree to defend the Baltics?

History has a word for those who trust russia's good intentions..... losers.

cms neuf
22 Feb 2024  #1802

I do need to get updated - because when I Google "Udmurtian advances" I get a few weird sources and pictures of Shoigu brown- nosing Putler

Since Adviika, what advances have been made ?

Alien
22 Feb 2024  #1803

Since Adviika, what advances have been made ?

I am reporting that 3 drunk Russian soldiers took a pi#s and fell into the air on a mine. Pieces of these soldiers landed in the Ukrainian trenches. There have been made no further advances.

jon357
22 Feb 2024  #1804

drunk Russian soldiers took a pi#s and fell into the air on a mine. Pieces of these soldiers landed in the Ukrainian trenches

If they'd been drinking rocket fuel instead of bimber, they'd have landed in Szczecin.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1805

they'd have landed in Szczecin.

:):):)

Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1806

Since Adviika, what advances have been made ?

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This is a Ukrainian service, tracking frontline movements.

Russia is currently attacking on 5 directions. As a result, the entire Ukrainian front line is cracking under the pressure. The reason is simple - they don't have enough "firefighting" units to plug every hot spot on the map.

The reason they don't have adequate reserves... is because Zelensky is mortally afraid of starting a new wave of mobilization.

Instead, Ukraine has been redeploying some of its elite units from the South (the same guys that were involved in last summer's counter-offensive), and also the reincarnated "Azov" 3rd Separate Assault Brigade.

The removal of those Ukrainian brigades from the South, has allowed Russian units there to speed up the process of retaking everything Ukraine managed to liberate between June and September.

I don't know what is more depressing to Ukrainians - that Avdeevka has fallen, or that the results of their long suffering counter-offensive are being erased. In any case, this doesn't create the right emotional climate for a person to voluntarily show up at a recruitment center.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1807

Zelensky is mortally afraid of starting a new wave of mobilization.

Yes, strange. They cancelled their presidential elections this year so what`s the matter?

this doesn't create the right emotional climate for a person to voluntarily show up at a recruitment center.

Volunteers have already joined the army. Now the standard obligatory conscription has to take place. The same is in Russia. The same will happen in Poland when Russia attacks us - patriots will join the ranks voluntarily while others will have to be forced.

Normal attitude worldwide.

Ironside
22 Feb 2024  #1808

- that Avdeevka has fall

It cost Russia 16,000 soldiers and 300 tanks.
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Zelensky is

asking for a meeting on the Polish-Ukrainian border to bust his image as a good negotiator when in fact he aggravated everybody with his arrogance and demands while delivering nothing but support for corrupt olioghary.

Of course, Tusk the german dog will oblige pity he does it in the name of Poland.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1809

the german

How many Germans sleep in your bed with you, Iron?? Tell us, don`t be shy. hahahaha

Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1810

Of course, Tusk the german dog will oblige

Tusk actually declined. Politely, he explained the reason for refusal is that such a meeting could only be "symbolic".

This is a diplomatic way of saying, "stop behaving like a goddamn circus clown".

Zelensky thinks mostly in terms of theatrical optics. For him, the surface IS the substance.

It cost Russia 16,000 soldiers and 300 tanks.

So said Murz, who committed suicide yesterday. Another painful loss. I don't know how accurate these numbers are, but they seem plausible. It's not 16,000 dead, however, but total "irrecoverable losses" - this includes KIA/WIA/MIA.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1811

It's not 16,000 dead, however, but total "irrecoverable losses" - this includes KIA/WIA/MIA.

That`s the Russian Deal anyway which you want to introduce in Ukraine first and then in other countries. . That is why normal decent Europeans reject Russia and its current character. Europe is getting ready, with or without the US.

Down with imperial Russia, the invader, occupier and finally Gulag prison of nations!!!

Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1812

Yes, strange. They cancelled their presidential elections this year so what`s the matter?

They did not outright cancel them - they are unconstitutional, but only during war. The problem is, Ukraine has not declared a state of war, but something instead in the middle. Roughly translated, it means "Military State".

Though he mentions the constitution, Zelensky makes more of an accent on the fact that many people are displaced, living within occupied territories, or are simply abroad. His argument is that elections in this context are impractical.

So the elections are not the reason. The reasons are:

1) First and foremost it is a politically explosive topic. The average Ukrainian now views being recruited as akin to a death sentence. Women go out onto the streets to block military recruiters from entering their villages and stealing their husbands and sons. There is no feeling that the war will end soon, or that the government will take care of you.

2) No money. EU aid is $50B over 4 years. US aid got cancelled. Japan and South Korea provided a few billion more. That's it - there are no more sources of funding except the IMF and the World Bank. Both the IMF and World Bank had conditions in order to continue the disbursements - conditions Ukraine will be hard pressed to meet. To pay for mobilization, Zelensky needs to raise taxes, raise more debt, and cut spending on social programs.

3) No weapons to arm another 500k men with. Ukraine still has maybe 60-70% of the equipment that was handed over for the counteroffensive. However, there's no indication that there will be huge transfers on the level of 2022-2023, that could outfit such a huge force.

4) The economy might collapse. This one is sort of self explanatory.

mafketis
22 Feb 2024  #1813

who committed suicide yesterday

you believe that?

In more cheerful news, Ukraine convinces a bunch of russian recruits that they should have stayed in their own country after all...

twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1760420485450342900

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1814

Women go out onto the streets to block military recruiters

hahaha You are too obsessed with history now, such things happened in 19th century, also in occupied Poland - one of the reasons for the January Uprising when Russians decided to capture Polish patriots into the army.


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Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1815

you believe that?

If you read his suicide note (his last post in Telegram before shooting himself), you would have no doubt that it was a suicide.

That note is more damaging and embarrassing for the military and propagandists on tv, than any murder of a malcontent.

He very articulately lays out his argument for why suicide is the only rational next step.

If you have been reading what he wrote over the years, you would understand this.

You are too obsessed with history now

Women blocking entrances to villages gets covered even in the Ukrainian press. Surprisingly enough, these incidents happen mostly in Ivano-Frankovsk, Ternopil, Lvov regions.

Western Ukrainian scum finally has a chance to kill themselves some Russians, but they hide instead under the skirts of their women.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1816

Western Ukrainian scum

The one which was influenced by the Polish culture the most and acquired Polish ideals of freedom and independence. That is why it is hated by Russian slaves the most. :):):)

cms neuf
22 Feb 2024  #1817

Udmurtia is attacking in 5 directions ? LOL

Vodka
Beer
Paint stripper
Spirit
Crimean "wine"

They are refusing to give Navalny a proper public burial because they are scared

Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1818

Udmurtia is attacking in 5 directions ? LOL

You are such an idiot, and I love you for it.

In Russian, we have an expression - «Ему ссы в глаза, а он - божья роса». Translated it means - "p!ss in his eyes - he'll say it's the morning dew".

This saying is about you.

The Western/Ukrainian propaganda complex is pissing straight into your face, and you also enjoy it greatly.

PolAmKrakow
22 Feb 2024  #1819

Amzing to me that some people want to blame the US for not giving more to Ukraine. Yet, they were cheering the greatest president ever Joe Biden when the US was blindly giving aid. So, my question is, just how fvcking much does the US have to give and Ukraine have to waste before some dumb fvcks will open their eyes to reality?

If Ukraine does not fully mobilize it wont matter how much the US gives, and that is one reason the US isnt giving. Z is a fvcking idiot. He is no longer a hero of Ukraine, he is sending men to die that wouldnt have to if the country was fully mobilized. Z is treating this war like its some kind of part time problem, while the westen part of the country just goes along with everyday life. Then they cry about not trusting Russia. Again, thats a European problem not the US problem. So WTF has Europe been doing the last 30 years other than sucking Russian cox for cheap gas and oil? Not pying 2% to NATO, and not building a military. All the B1tching about Russia from PiS and they didnt do anything until Russia actually invaded Ukraine. Take responsibility for your own stupidity and inaction for fvck sakes.

Alien
22 Feb 2024  #1820

Beer

Do they even drink beer?

Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1821

Ukraine does not fully mobilize it wont matter how much the US gives

It's not merely a question "will they/won't they". It has an important time dimension to it.

Today, the head of Zelensky's party, David Arakhamia, said in an interview: "Some of our brigades are already at 40% of authorized strength. If the Russians breach the front, and produce a breakthrough - then even a million mobilized men won't be enough - because it would have been too late."

He also said, "If American aid dries up, we'll have to recruit even more men." Translation, if we won't have guns, we'll use our people.

Source: censor.net/ua/news/3474869/yakscho_dopomoga_vid_ssha_bude_menshoyu_to_nam_treba_bude_mobilizuvaty_bilshe_lyudeyi_sluga_narodu_arahamiya

So yes, the head of Zelensky's own party is saying the situation at the front is so bad, that soon even a million men might not change the situation. CMS Neuf meanwhile, is happily making jokes about vodka. What an absolutely magical idiot.

P.S. - a funny little detail that drives Ukrainians crazy - Arakhamia is an emigre from Abkhazia. In the early 2000s he acted as campaign manager for a Russian Duma MP. There's a million videos of him online, being a Russian poodle. Now he's head of Zelensky's party.

Alien
22 Feb 2024  #1822

CMS Neuf meanwhile, is happily making jokes about vodka. What an absolutely magical idiot.

I understand him very well and no, he is not an idiot.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1823

magical idiot.

Apart from historical obsessions, you are also obsessed with Russian literature. Please, stop, it is useless here.


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Bobko
22 Feb 2024  #1824

he is not an idiot.

Perhaps.

Sometimes people say strange things, simply because they are afraid.

Fear is a powerful thing.

Alien
22 Feb 2024  #1825

Fear is a powerful thing.

Yes, and intimidation is the current task of russian trolls on the Polish Forum. No wonder the boy is afraid

Novichok
22 Feb 2024  #1826

This thread should be open only to Bobko, PAK, and Poloniusz as posters. The rest of you, morons, are just background noise.
I sincerely mean it.

Alien
22 Feb 2024  #1827

This thread should be open only to Bobko and PAK as posters

There are 1828 posts in this thread. You don't think they would want to write so much.

pawian
22 Feb 2024  #1828

This thread should be open only to

That`s pure bolshevism which propagated censorship. Where did you learn it???? In the US???

Novichok
22 Feb 2024  #1829

There are 1828 posts in this thread.

...with 1800 of them moronic...

This forum should have a reverse ignore filter: ignore all except...

Thank you, Mr. Admin, in advance...

jon357
22 Feb 2024  #1830

intimidation is the current task of russian trolls on the Polish Forum

They try, but it never works.


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