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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2024  #2521

Hard to know what you mean by 'woke' military

In Germany there are people (even in the gov) who prefer for the soldiers to bow to the rainbow flag instead to the german colors...

Quotation:

Flood of woke warm showers

....
The force is targeting completely the wrong group with its youth advertising. Just look at the advertising posters that you see in public. Paramedics, logisticians, IT nerds, maximum protocol soldiers. Preferably female, colored and always gendered. If you take that at face value, the Bundeswehr is looking for woke stage stallions and mares (I'm consciously exaggerating - I realize that medics also do tough jobs in the field, that's not my point here). In addition, it presents itself as a modern part-time business with a kindergarten and refrigerator.

.....

What the Bundeswehr needs most urgently is not mentioned anywhere: men and women with fighting strength, the will to fight and the ability to fight. With the characteristics of resilience, perseverance and the ability to suffer. Lots - lots of them. You won't find any advertising for this anywhere. The zeitgeisty snowflake advertising in turn means that there are a lot of people in the troops who are good for all sorts of things, but not soldiers. A culture is establishing itself in the Bundeswehr that indulges the woke zeitgeist of the oppressed minorities and does not hesitate to put issues such as waste separation, climate protection and gendered ranks on the agenda. This has an impact on all areas, all of which are affected and hindered by it......


achgut.com/artikel/bundeswehr_laenger_schlafen_fuer_deutschland

...this "army" will not be able to defend Germany....and definitely not Ukraine, nuff said!

jon357
5 Mar 2024  #2522

bow to the rainbow flag

Why not? And why 'bow' to anything? Armies generally salute and are in their nature pragmatic and adapt to change.

All I see in that post is a rant from a reactionary guy online.

Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2024  #2523

My goodness....that "bowing" was figuratively meant.

All I see in that post is a rant from a reactionary guy online.

Na ja....

Martin Toden (59) is a qualified personnel developer, reserve officer in the Bundeswehr and looks back on almost 40 years of civil and military leadership experience.

You don't like him? How comes....because he wants a german army which could actually be useful?

THAT's exactly the dilemma....weak - you judge/laugh/mock....strong - you fear/hate/accuse....your decision, what should it be in the future? With maybe a NATO with alot less USA than we were used to...you won't get it both ways!

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2524

"give, give, give", which is then periodically substituted with "I hate you, I hate you, I hate you".

...modern man-woman relationship...That's why guys don't want to get married.

Hard to know what you mean by 'woke' military.

Woke military - where faggots are models and toxic masculinity needs a sensitivity course.

Also...woke Border Guards - pussies that assist migrant invasion instead of repelling it. See the UK and the US.

PolAmKrakow
5 Mar 2024  #2525

@Novichok
Whats funny about this illegal immigration issue everywhere in Europe and the US is that the same fvcktards that demanded we wear masks outside with COVID are the people defending all the illegal immigration. The same people that said you cant fly without prrof of vaccination now let millions of unvaccinated, and undocumented illegals into their countries. The same fvcktards who support continuing a war with men needlessly dying are those who would get their a$$es kicked first if they had to defend themselves or their homes.

A woke military is going to what? Slap people to death? Woke is weak. There is no such thing as toxic masculinity, as much as a man cannot give birth to a child. You are either masculine or you are not. Can you imagine if Ukraine was being defended by all the woke fvcks here? This war would have been long over.

jon357
5 Mar 2024  #2526

You don't like him? H

His style comes across as ranty. He mistakes things he personally dislikes in recruitment ads with the internal discipline of an army.

So what if they have childcare facilities for female soldiers' kids, it's nothing new. isn't that a good thing?

you judge/laugh/mock

Mock what? Being modern?

Nobody sane wants a return to the mistakes of the past.

faggots are models

You're obsessed.

Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2024  #2527

We have a centuries long history of friendship, blood ties, cultural, and institutional links.

You see our shared history quite through the rose tinted glasses, Bobko....as do many Germans, mind you!

isn't that a good thing

counter question:

Why would a return to our prussian roots be a bad thing? Our army surely wasn't a thing to laugh at back then...:)

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2528

You're obsessed.

No. It's the woke azholes conducting DEI courses for the US Army to make azholes like you happy.
BB didn't invent this crap just to win a debate here. The LGBT mental disorder spread like COVID. Hopefully, you will all die before more damage is done...

Hey, Vlad, you are my hero for keeping the scum away from Russian kids.

jon357
5 Mar 2024  #2529

Our army surely wasn't a thing to laugh at back then

Is that a good thing though? It didn't end well. Twice in a row.

to win a debate

He didn't win one. And you're still obsessed.

Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2024  #2530

Is that a good thing though?

Is it not?

I doubt you would mock today about the events in Germany....

It didn't end well. Twice in a row.

....but nobody mocked the german army, right? Dilemma! ;)

Bobko
5 Mar 2024  #2531

You see our shared history quite through the rose tinted glasses, Bobko

Two World Wars are of course nothing to sneeze at, but that is a small blip in Russia's nearly millennium long engagement with Germans.

As evidence, I already showed you that German is most studied in Russia. Isn't that a good indicator?

Shouldn't it be the French or Italians who are the world's best German students?

How many high school students in America can tell you who is Goethe or Mann?

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2532

Is that a good thing though? It didn't end well.

How well did it end for Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraqis, and Afghans? Close to 5 million dead because Western "democracies" are mental cases of imaginary superiority.

jon357
5 Mar 2024  #2533

nobody mocked the german army,

They did. Frequently. And beat them too.

the events in Germany....

Would there be differences, or even more leaks? And would there be a different set of politicians. After all, who would want a military state?

Tacitus
5 Mar 2024  #2534

@jon357

Odd too you mention the Shah of Persia too, especially the world would be a better place were his family still in power

Iran today is the place it is because the UK helped to strangle the budding democracy and put someone back into power whose opression caused the Islamic revolution later.

Nor was the liberation of Iraq from the Ba'athists in any way 'illegal

Of course it was. Invading another country without any legal justification is an illegal invasion. And here lies the issue many people have with the West. The hipocrisy to on the one hand invade illegally another country and then ask for support when Russia is doing something similar in their eyes.

And I wish the "liberation" was the end of this madness, instead we had Civil War, the rise of the IS (largely orchestrated by former Baath party members) and so on.

Regarding Libya, you obviously know little about the lives saved by foreign intervention.

*Looks at 10+ years of Civil war, a destroyed and divided country whose state makes it impossible to effectively solve the refugee crisis. Lots of lifes saved there and again a shattered reputation with large parts of the Non-Western worls.

Germany massively screwed up with Russia post 1998. But not only is the UKs track record with Russia quite spotty too, it is historically downright ignorant to claim that Germany has a historical tendency to do so, certainly for the last 70+ years.

Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2024  #2535

And beat them too.

Together, Jon! Never one-on-one....quite the difference....and no, nobody mocked the german armies back then!

But you can see on your own reactions right now, only faced with an imaginary future maybe possible re-build strong and able german army, how problematic that is for you.

So I would advise, whenever you hear again something showing the many failures and shortcomings of the current german military to be happy and glad about it!

'til later all

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2536

The hipocrisy to on the one hand invade illegally another country and then ask for support when Russia is doing something similar

Whataboutism is a very good debating tool. I am proud of you, T.

johnny reb
5 Mar 2024  #2537

Hey, Vlad, you are my hero for keeping the scum away from Russian kids.

Indeed
Ru$$ian oligarchs Arkady and Boris Rotenberg have decided to create a private army, similar to Yevgeny Prigozhin's Wagner Group, consisting of soccer hooligans.

How smart of them not only to have the most hateful scum in the army and at the same time legally cull the uneducated zero loser riff rafts from their countries.

That would be like biden rounding up all the street gangs in America and sending them to Ukraine giving them military grade weapons and c-4 to kill promising them all the free sexual enhancement drugs they wanted and no holes barred sex with all humans and animals.

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2538

shortcomings of the current German military to be happy and glad about it!

I am not.

Germany should be strong enough to be the stabilizing force in Europe and to relieve the US so it can concentrate on its current invasion and future deportations once Trump is sworn in.

jon357
5 Mar 2024  #2539

because the UK

We're not interested in your unusual views about Persia; and in any case, they're wrong.

If you want people to reply to your posts, perhaps you could stop deliberately removing their names from quotes.

Together

Which is how both sides fought; neither fought alone. Did you forget that?

how problematic that is for you.

Not for me; but perhaps problematic enough for vulnerable countries that they will take great care to ensure that a situation where they are threatened by imperialism can never reoccur.

Lots of lifes saved there

Libya? Yes. Many lives were saved by timely intervention in the civil war that had broken out after decades of instability. How well do you know the country?

You seem unusually full of bluster today; perhaps trying to defend the indefensible behaviour of the r*SSian assets within Germany is causing you stress.

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2540

of the r*SSian assets within Germany is causing you stress.

Faggot colors in every store cause me stress.

Ironside
5 Mar 2024  #2541

The federalist ambitions of the current lot suggest that German politicians have not learnt.

A very good point, with no flexibility and no understanding of numerous concerns and contexts German drive to federalization the EU, is typical of Germany's lack of finse and sheer stubbornness.

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A woke Wehrmacht is not possible!

There is nothing wrong with the word Luftwaffe.
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The constant "give, give, give", which is then periodically substituted with "I hate you

Projecting much? They want German citizens make think due to their German propaganda if you look at the real facts and where money flows it is a completely different picture and Germany had been and still is to some extent major beneficiary of the EU and Eastern European markets. Also, besides Poland and maybe Chech all other countries are old allies of tf Germany. So dissing Poland on Polish forums is not that wise, is it? I guess you couldn't help it:_)

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modern man-woman

Bingo! Why do you sound like a woman Noci? I'm not making this up, you are so female-like that it borders on creepy.

johnny reb
5 Mar 2024  #2542

Faggot colors in every store cause me stress.

You cause yourself stress.
Take a class in, "How to be civil as an adult".

Bobko
5 Mar 2024  #2543

So dissing Poland on Polish forums is not that wise, is it? I guess you couldn't help it:_)

The temptation is too strong, and the soul too weak.

Forgive me, a sinner.

Velund
5 Mar 2024  #2544

If NATO got dissolved, would the US be defenseless?

Rich, NATO is not about defence, it is a system that assures stable or increasing MICC cash flow.

Tacitus
5 Mar 2024  #2545

@jon357

unusual views about Persia;

Pointing out that putting the shah back in power was a terrible mistake is hardly an unusual interpretation, few people seem to defend this action today and for good reasons.

Many lives were saved by timely intervention in the civil war that had broken out after decades of instability.

You might wanna look up what happened after 2011. I mean you are aware that the Civil War lasted for another decade and that Libya is now de facto a failed state right?

r*SSian assets within Germany is causing you stress.

It is just a rather unusual experience. You are an intelligtent and reasonable person, yet you have some very strange views on Germany which are difficult to reconcile with your other demeanour. You make exaggerated claims and distort history to a degree I'd expect from Novichok, not from you.

And maybe that is just my impression, but the simple, objective fact that Germany has surpassed the UK in assistance to Ukraine seens to really annoy you, hence the overblown criticism. Perhaps I am unfair here, but your views seem remarkably similar to what I've read about Thatcher.

cms neuf
5 Mar 2024  #2546

NATO is about defense

Udmurtia spends far more on its own Stone Age MIC than any NATO country - just half the money ends up in Cyprus and the other half spent on vulgar handbags and footballers wages

Crnogorac3
5 Mar 2024  #2547

People are saying that the disgusting anti-Russian tranny Sarah Ashton-Cirillo is missing.

Alex Barnicoat
@mrbarnicoat

Reports say that the Transgender Ukrainian Spokesperson "Sarah Ashton-Cirillo" has gone missing somewhere in Ukraine


twitter.com/mrbarnicoat/status/1764722182813331705

probably a fag sex orgy gone wrong. certainly more likely than Russians killing it.

Novichok
5 Mar 2024  #2548

People are saying that the disgusting anti-Russian tranny Sarah Ashton-Cirillo is missing.

She is in America teaching sensitivity and DEI at West Point.

Novichok
6 Mar 2024  #2549

A question to Bobko and Velund: What percentage of Donbass is currently occupied by the UA?

jon357
6 Mar 2024  #2550

just half the money ends up in Cyprus and the other half spent on vulgar handbags and footballers wages

I'd be surprised if half gets there. They were feeding the orcs 40 year old tinned food. Even the battlefield dogs preferred the orc meat to that.


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