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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2024  #2551

Ukraines First Lady has declined Bidens invitation to attend his State of the Union. A nice way to say fvck you to sleepy Joe, and at the same time a nice way to show congress how Ukraine feels about them not sending more money. Meanwhile, Trump rolled to victory on Super Tuesday and is just short of having the delegates needed for the Republican nomination. With the USSC keeping Trump on the ballot in all 50 states, November is going to get very interesting very quickly. RFK still in the running is expected to announce he is getting on more State ballots in the coming days as well. RFK also saying he would end the war in Ukraine and tear down the MIC on top of that. How do Democrats continue to support the Biden agenda that has clearly failed, and the idea that continuing the war in Ukraine is good? It simply is not rational.

Meanwhile, two years into the war Russia has destroyed its first HIMARS unit or possibly two depending on who you believe. More reports of Russian ground gains along the entire line, and still no mobilization by Z. No matter how many ships Ukraine sinks in the Black Sea, if you cant stop soldiers from crossing front lines, you cant push those same units back to where they came.

jon357
6 Mar 2024  #2552

tear down the MIC on top of that

Not a great idea.

Alien
6 Mar 2024  #2553

tear down the MIC

If MIC stands for military industrial complex, it certainly won't happen.

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2024  #2554

I see some of you know nothing about how the Kennedy family thinks, or what got JFK and RFK killed. RFK jr. has a very strong platform that appeals to most of the younger voters. He is certainly a more moderate choice than Trump, and a lot smarter than Biden. The money spent on needless wars is in the trillions. Tearing it down, or shrinking it for domestic production of defensive weapons makes a lot of sense. Setting it up as a sales center to other countries, and stopping spending on other contries makes a whole lot of sense to a lot of people. You want weapons? Great. Pay for them. You want or are in a war? Pay for them. The US financing of other countries problems is coming to an end one way or another.

jon357
6 Mar 2024  #2555

shrinking it f

What about the workers?

And the shareholders thought obviously that's less important.

But, by all means 'shrink' it and stop exporting. There's plenty of capacity (and a need for jobs) elsewhere.

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2556

A nice way to say fvck you... to show congress how Ukraine feels about them

If you were her would you want to be in the same room as pro-russian Michael Johnson and have to be polite to him?

Ukraine realized _months_ ago (long before your heel turn) that the US was not invested in Ukrainian victory and merely wants to tie down russia to prevent it from moving into the Baltics and Poland and keeps aid to the bare minimum need to do that (wrongly thinking that a weakened russia will be less aggressive..... it won't).

Meanwhile.... is there any way for you to share your strategic insights with the Ukrainian government? They've outperfomed on virtually ever bit of help they've gotten but clearly they need your broader perspective.

amiga500
6 Mar 2024  #2557

but your views seem remarkably similar to what I've read about Thatcher.

Oh! Gloves off! Sock the Hun Jon!

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2024  #2558

@mafketis
She turned Biden down, not Johnson. So, its not a snub to Johnson. Johnson, if you were investigating, is preparing a Ukraine aid package not tied to the border. There is no shortage of support for Ukraine in Congress, only a shortage of support for Bidens plans to keep allowing illegal immigration. I am shocked that is lost on such an astute politcal tactician such as yourself.

Outperfromed? If you call a failed counter offensive outperforming, the clearly we have different definitions. They have certainly outperformed in the efficient needless killing of their own men on the front lines of late. They have absolutely outperformed in the corruption department. With that kind of success, it is a wonder why more countries have not adopted the Ukraine style of military and economic leadership.

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2559

a failed counter offensive outperforming

no air support (which Ukraine has asked for since the very beginning)

So... Johnson wouldn't be present at the State of the Union? weird....

jon357
6 Mar 2024  #2560

wants to tie down russia to prevent it from moving into the Baltics and Poland

And this is working well.

Gloves off

He does whatsboutery. If someone mentions current affairs in Germany, he starts sniping about things in the country whatever poster comes from. Not unusual as a distraction technique by paid trolls.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2024  #2561

.....and how quickly we are "huns" again! :)

jon357
6 Mar 2024  #2562

huns

I was interested to find the origin of that term as used about the German army. I always assumed it was an old WW1 slur so was quite surprised to learn that the origin was a speech made by the Kaiser before that.

We don't dislike you; but please remember that mistakes are not for repeating.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2024  #2563

....I fear there will be alot more mistakes coming, this country is just not working anymore as we and the world had been used to... *sigh*

But at least the current events are pulling all this into the limelight and something has to be done, it can't go on like this anymore!

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2024  #2564

@mafketis
And now the excuse of no air support? Interesting. How Russian air superiority has not been a deterining factor in any of their gains. Several here have pointed out the multiple kills of airplanes of Russia's. More like wasted resources on non strategic positions along with wasted lives of Ukraine men. Johnson did not make the invitation, and it is not his State of the Union, its Biden's address and his invitation that was shot down. Dont go all leftist press core on us now and try twisting facts.

jon357
6 Mar 2024  #2565

something has to be done, it can't go on like this anymore!

Yes. Right now, none of us are getting the politicians we deserve.

Except Ukraine. One day there will be statues of that guy.

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2566

just saw this...

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1765286855837204773

good reasons to not take Biden's invitation

Navalnaja had also been invited?

Previous commitments?

Accepting Biden's invitation could alienate thin-skinned republicans...

And now the excuse of no air support?

Yes. Ground offensives need air cover.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2024  #2567

Putin propagandist wants to destroy four German counterparts for Crimean bridge

merkur.de/politik/vergeltung-krim-bruecke-putin-propagandist-deutschland-ukraine-krieg-taurus-bundeswehr-92870703.html

....."In this rather narrow country there are none as long as Crimea. But through the missile's sights there is still something to see," Kiselyov said in the program for an inventory of bridges. His solution to the problem was simple: "We have to pay attention to the other bridges in Germany to avoid retaliatory damage in linear meters."

.....

In total, Kiselyov came up with four bridges: the Hohenzollern railway bridge in Cologne, the Fehrmarnsund and Rügen bridges in northern Germany and the Magdeburg water bridge, which spans the Elbe. The details of the list suggest that it was not a spontaneous reaction. The Putin confidant paid attention not to the length, but also to the traffic and the significance of the bridges. The Magdeburg Bridge is "the cherry on the cake," said Kiselyov. ...


Erm....they would need the Taurus for this, won't they....

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2568

Biden's address and his invitation that was shot dow

Now words is he intended for Zelenska to sit next to Navalnaja.... tone deaf and terrible. A very good thing both women declined....

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2024  #2569

@mafketis
And this is the leader of the free world. This is the US president you want making decisions on how to help Ukraine? Ground offensives the previous spring or summer had less air cover and took back huge portions of land. Dont make excuses for Ukraine incompetence and bad use of men and materials.

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2570

This is the US president you want

I dont' want either Biden or Trump.... but the country is too fragmented, dispirited to come up with someone less than 145 years old or someone who's had a new idea in the last 84 years....

US politics has degraded to the level of professional wrestling.... biden and trump growling at each other and each side accusing the other of destroying democracy.... a shameful shambles....

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2024  #2571

@mafketis
Praying for luck for Kennedy. He may have some different ways of thinking, but he is smarter and more balanced than either alternative. The Democratic party fvcked up not allowing him to challenge for the nomination. Biden cannot win against Trump this time, Kamala wont get women out to vote, and if Trump takes a black VP, then it is over for Biden.

johnny reb
6 Mar 2024  #2572

and if Trump takes a black VP,

Trump already has enough of the Black vote and we know that a soft-spoken Christian with common sense is not Trumps cup of tea.
I would have to say more of a Teflon Karen that he can throw under the bus when he has a meltdown.
Maybe we should take this Topic to the U.S. thread on the back page guys. ;-)

Novichok
6 Mar 2024  #2573

if Trump takes a black VP, then it is over for Biden.

...and nothing much will change...

1. The "massive" deportations will not happen.
2. The national debt will keep growing at 1.5T a year.
3. The US will stay in NATO.
4. US MICC will continue spending 1T a year for no damn reason.
5. Immigration will continue at 1M a year.
6. Asylum bs will not change.
7. The US will continue playing the world's dumbest cop with hundreds of bases everywhere.
8. Woke and trans crap will only get worse.

Did I miss anything?

johnny reb
6 Mar 2024  #2574

Yes, you don't vote so you don't get to voice your opinion.

Novichok
6 Mar 2024  #2575

Can somebody here list the top five countries most likely to attack the US?

...and explain why the US needs:

1. NATO
2. Tanks
3. Artillery

Novichok
6 Mar 2024  #2576

Hey, Euros, it's been almost an hour...what's up with that silence...Two easy questions...Don't be shy...

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2577

Meanwhile.... poor little russia, betrayed and manipulated by the all-powerful west almost killed a NATO PM....

Greek and Ukrainian prime ministers were visting an apartment building where russians murdered a bunch of kids a few days ago and another russian missile strikes 200 meters away..

Oh yes.... russia surely wants to negotiate....

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1765402903919882704

mafketis
6 Mar 2024  #2578

More evidence of russia drafting foreigners into the army to use as cannon fodder....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1765406304166658239

Why India still supports russia is a mystery....

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2024  #2579

World of Russia
@worldview50
Berna Roperin from Cúcuta, Norte de Santander, Colombia.

Berna came to Ukraine somewhere in Early Autumn 2023.

He had no life in Colombia as he Got divorced and bankrupt.

In search of quick Bucks he came to Ukraine and joined The International Legion of Clowns.

Now he awaits his destiny as a fertilizer for Russian soil.


Novichok
6 Mar 2024  #2580

How to detect a moron?

Ask him if Russia wants to occupy Western Europe.

If he says yes, he is. No need for an MRI or CT scan...

Now he awaits his destiny as a fertilizer for Russian soil.

They will have to kill him first, I assume...


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