Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

When they talk to the outside world, Ukrainians still insist that weapons and ammunition are the key hurdles preventing them from succeeding. "Give us the weapons and ammo, and we'll kick the Russians out tomorrow".

Internally, however, their national discussion is very much about how a shortage of manpower is THE determining factor.

Ukraine is not behaving "stupidly", per se. There simply isn't enough money to pay an additional 500K soldiers' salaries, and what's more... Ukrainian society may simply implode. Zelensky is well aware of this, and it seems he has chosen to just keep playing a game of political hot potato - kicking the mobilization topic around between the General Staff/MoD, the Verkhovna Rada, and his own office.

The reason he's not bringing the subject up when traveling, is that it's just a very awkward subject for Zelensky to broach with the West. Acknowledging the manpower issues calls into question many fundamental assumptions about this war.

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I'll try to illustrate my meaning with an example. I was talking to an American recently, and he was asking me about Ukraine's problems with mobilization. His perspective was the same as yours - very George Washington-like, "tree of liberty must be generously nourished with blood of patriots" type shtick. He was asking me, "if a people are in a fight for their survival, why can't they be bothered to defend themselves?".

My answer to him was,

1) Things were already not great in Ukraine pre-2022

2) The people decided to give the government a last chance, and rallied around it.

3) Over the last two years the government has shown itself to be criminally incompetent, with a callous disregard towards human life.

4) Numerous "Fortress Severodonetsk", "Fortress Bakhmut", "Fortress Avdeevka" type PR campaigns fell flat on their face. Unnecessarily delayed and extremely bloody withdrawals, have convinced families that their sons and husbands would only be killed for little to no benefit. The disaster of a counter offensive also did not give people any confidence that their family members are being managed soundly.

5) The Ukrainian military is engaged in routine fraud against the families of the deceased. In tens of thousands of cases, families cannot get paid their 15 million Hrivnya "death payments", because their husband or son is constantly being requalified as "missing in action" to avoid issuing a death certificate.

Who wants to defend this type of government, that treats you like a dog?

...so we can sell them and deposit money in Swiss banks.


I don't want to defend the government that is hellbent on destroying the US by inviting, aiding, and abetting a migrant invasion by the millions and making me pay for the scumbags' "social services".

Hey, Bobko, how do you like that girl and the song?

It's ok. I like stuff that goes hard, however. So, not exactly my cup of tea.


I don't know that Ukraine is systematically selling weapons abroad. After all, they are fighting a huge war themselves - and even the crooks on top must have some instinct of self preservation. If not from the Russians, then from their own people.

However, that being said... for the first time I read in the press a sort of official confirmation of Ukraine redirecting weapons elsewhere. This was this week, in several different publications, that covered Ukraine's shadow war against Russia in Sudan.

In those articles, it's explained that Ukraine lost zero special forces operators in all their months of being there. Also, they only killed a single Russian. Instead, Ukrainian-backed Sudanese fighters, fight other Sudanese that wear "Wagner" patches. To help "their" Sudanese, the Ukrainians have been transferring weapons, including Bayraktar drones.

I think this is just another spectacular piece of Zelensky theater. If I was a Ukrainian, I would be extremely pissed off that my government is spending weapons and treasure fighting Russian proxies in Sudan.

I'm also assuming that the West is fully aware of these Ukrainian shenanigans, and also thinks it's worth it.

The main mass of "illegal" weapons being sold out of Ukraine are small arms - obviously. AKs, M4s, grenades, etc.

You can't exactly smuggle an Abrams or a Patriot out.

You defend the russian government which treats most citizens worse than dogs....

Yet it pays salaries to soldiers on time, and there have been no mass reports of "death payments" being withheld.

In Ukraine, meanwhile, every law firm hosts free pro bono clinics for families hoping to get their payment from the government. It is hopeless for a person to attempt to navigate the process without the aid of an attorney.

In fact, Russia has provided an incredible mass of benefits in an attempt to lure recruits. Priority admission to universities, subsidized mortgages, superior lifetime medical care, and lots of other perks.

posthum

Superior lifetime medical care ?

Just like that provided to the veterans of the Afghan war I used to see limping one legged around the beautiful subway system of Moscow.

Most sadly have drunk themselves to death or frozen by now

They're probably better off outside a r*SSian hospital than in one.


Flush toilets?

how on earth would you know? you think the russian media (ordered to not report on crimes by returning prisoners) would reveal that?


then why are you tricking Indians and Nepalis into taking part in meat assaults?

Ukraine has just been flushed down the toilet.

....the stone age towelheads taking over now too?

Why is Ukraine using foreigners?

There have been numerous reports of Colombians and South Africans fighting for Ukraine. These are not your run-of-the-mill brainwashed children of globalization, but hardened mercenaries.

Colombians fought FARC for decades, and now have an excess of fighting men following the peace that was concluded.

South Africans fought everywhere from Angola and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, to Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you are telling me these are not mercenaries, I don't know who qualifies as one.

Young Ukrainians are scrambling for guns in order to defend their country as soon as possible under the leadership of the great Volodymyr Zelensky.
The war is practically already over for the Russians.

x.com/runews/status/1766087219775746367

So that Russians won't feel bad when they blow their heads off. PTSD is a terrible thing to have...

BTW, what the fvck is the problem with liberating the rest of Donbass? Why does it take so long? I am still thinking about going to Russia for a couple of weeks...and that war complicates my plans...

Yep. Imagine if a criminal with 50 felonies, who worship Burn Loot Murder and Saint George Floyd a much as Putin worships Stalin invades your house, start to fire at you wanting you to give everything that you own to him, you fight back, he is lightly wounded and say "Hey. If you agree to let me only steal your backyard and to be disarmed and get rid of your ar-15 and be restricted to that old rusty single action .22 lr, I promisse that I would't invade you again and try to steal everything for you and kill you", would you accept such suicidal deal?

All of that was avoidable in April 2022. All Putin wanted was:

1. Ukraine neutrality
2. Crimea
3. Fair treatment of the Russian minority

THAT WAS IT! But the DC warmongers had a different plan. Fvck 500,000 dead or disabled Ukrainians.

Putin congratulated Russian women on Women's Day: The needs of the family are the absolute priority of the Russian authorities

"This year in our country is dedicated to the family. The meaning, the essence of the family is, above all, the continuation of life, the continuation of the history of each specific family, of our entire nation and our country. It is the family that strengthens the bond and continuity of generations. Careful attitude towards women and motherhood is an integral part of our tradition"

Putin pardoned over 500 women from prison today. Preference was given to pregnant women, mothers of minor children and women whose family members are participating in the special operation.

@Korvinus
Another Ukraine supporting genius. Ukraine has lost the war because it has not done what it should. Wake TF up. Someone breaks in my house I kill him. I dont call my fvcking neighbors or the guy ten thousand miles from me asking for a gun. I kill him with what ever I can find, then I feed him to the forest.

If you are not prepared for anyone to break into your house at any time and do just that then you are a simpleton who deserves what he gets in todays world. Ukraine was warned months before the invasion and within days of it happening Z was still denying it would happen. Anyone believing anyone elses promises is a fool to begin with.

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It's so much fun reading your posts...as if I wrote them myself...
No, I would not ask anyone for help or call 911. The cops are useless.

Independence has a value on its own. There are things worse than death.

Said a guy on my military welfare.


Name three. Skip "Red". I would rather be red than dead.

Are those on your list:

1. Ukraine neutrality
2. Crimea
3. Fair treatment of the Russian minority

The pope calls on Ukrainian NATO proxies to raise the white flag. Indirectly offers himself (🤨) as a mediator in negotiations.

reuters.com/world/europe/pope-says-ukraine-should-have-courage-white-flag-negotiations-2024-03-09/

"The word negotiate is a courageous word. When you see that you are defeated, that things are not going well, you have to have the courage to negotiate," Francis said.

I just saw it. Francisco also found out that the ukrops got smoked.

Francisco 😁

twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1712072875753013412

And we know that the Pope is infallible. :)

The surrender boy must have read my brilliant Z-P=0.

That was 2 years and 500,000 Ukrainians ago.

Ukrainians en masse on social networks spit and insult the Holy Father in the most primitive ways.

Then die, azholes...and FO...
I think I have it in reverse...

Ukraine + russian rule = less than zero....


the one who wants them to agree to be genocided? They should insult him.


Mercenaries know what they're getting into, unlike the Indians and Nepalis that russia exploits...

"You see little one, it wasn't that hard. Now you'll get Taurus rockets too."

This woman is pure evil. You don't have to go any further, she is pure EVIL.

Frau Zimmermann-Strack from the liberal party FDP.

But we have a perfectly good peace proposal already: Putin get the fu*ck out of Ukraine (and pay for all the damages before going to the Hague to answer for your crimes).

Nick Griffin
@NickGriffinBU
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The warmongering gets more unhinged by the day.

Are YOU ready to die for Ukraine, Israel, military-industrial complex profits, and to make the world safe for Sodomy?
#WW3 #conscription