Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

@PolAmKrakow
Totally nuts to think it, it sounds more like the pre-war scenario that was in place. Russians won't revert back to how it was. Otherwise they wouldn't stir anything in the first place, Ukraine not within NATO does not seem like an option after the Russian invasion. Just need peace first, too much military intel and population for military industrial complex to not want Ukraine inside of NATO.

Ukraine not within NATO, Sweden not in NATO and Finland not within NATO was the reality before the invasion of Ukraine. This is all on Russia. Wouldn't be surprised if Russia started all this to get them in to NATO for a price that Russian and Ukrainian elites were promised to recieved.

Mark my words, look at how both Ukraine and Russia will behave after the peace.

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/142-an-exercise-in-fake-democracy/id1617276298?i=1000649265520

Good episode from Battleground. Apparently people being forced to prove they voted for Putin through their mobile phone location apps in order to increase the turnout. Embarrassing stuff.

@Mr Grunwald
Di I say Russia reverts back? No. Ukraine has lost the land it has lost and they are not getting it back. Its not going to happen now or in the future. Ukraine will not be in NATO. Turkey, and the US if the US is still in it, will never approve Ukraine because of the Russian threat.

@mafketis
The chances Ukraine honors all its agreements? You know like the Minsk accords they didnt honor and never intended to honor. Ukraine is just as dirty as Russia, only with less government sanctioned murders.

The US may be all kinds of things but it's not ready to commit suicide for "freedom and democracy" (where is my barf bag!) in Ukraine or anywhere else...

In other news.... more..... disruptions than I had expected in the Cringefest known as the russian presidential 'election'....

Lady set a booth on fire...

twitter.com/FjordFella/status/1768629769178907008

Pouring dye onto ballots rendering them illegible?

twitter.com/MoscowTimes/status/1768610391653839301

Most of these incidents are being carried out by women.... russian women are generally a lot tougher psychologically than russian men, so.... interesting.

Do tell.... and just what kind of negotiations do you expect to conduct with this....

twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1768266069955780856

I love the Russian opposition in all their meaningless brilliance.

Nobody gives a sh*t if you vote for random candidates or ruin ballots.

I can imagine, Putin crying himself to sleep, because a bunch of nerds would rather vote for a communist than him.

Exactly. It's why russia is such a terrible country.

On the one hand a schizo-paranoid government that can't stand the slightest bit of criticism or opposition and resorts to brutal measures at the drop of a hat.

On the other hand the overwhelming majority of citizens are pathetic losers who are terrified of doing anything unless they're ordered to. Their mentality is exactly what the word 'sheeple' was meant to convey.

How can human beings live like that? No dignity no agency..... just being told what to believe and complying.

How much of what the russian government says do you sincerely believe?

How much of official policy do you disagree with? How comfortable would you be openly discussing your disagreement in russia?

Who said we believe?


Maybe 5%, and I'm feeling particularly generous today. But I also trust the American government to an approximately similar extent. Anybody that has faith in any government, even if living in a Swiss Canton, is an idiot.


Probably most of it. But likely not the things you would want me to disagree with.

For example; I've been a vocal opponent of squirreling away gargantuan sums of money in a sovereign wealth fund, in such a poor country like Russia. Putin's fiscal conservatism is a major break on the economic growth. We should be borrowing out the wazoo like the Americans and Chinese to build fresh infrastructure and invest in healthcare and education.

Aid to Ukraine must be 'immediate': Polish PM after emergency Weimar Triangle summit

The leaders of the Weimar Triangle agreed that aid to Ukraine must be "immediate" and as intensive as possible," Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk said following the emergency meeting of the group's leaders in Berlin on Friday. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz hosted the summit, with President Emmanuel Macron representing France.

tvpworld.com/76455044/aid-to-ukraine-must-be-immediate-polish-pm-after-emergency-weimar-triangle-summit

What a difference a new government can make. Nice to see Poland back on the European stage after 8 years.

Hurry up!

Certain sectors of the front are ready to collapse.

Can't be trusted. I would rather trust a mangey dog with rabies than that trio of conmen.

So you lie.... so much for caring about 'truth'.... all the rest is rationalization....

...convinced that Western "democracies" are really democracies. They just can't recall when their ruling mob asked them if they wanted more migrants.

Putin explicitly hates "Russia for Russians":
rbc.ru/politics/17/02/2021/602cea0a9a7947077d8a8070

Putin considers the slogan "Russia for Russians" harmful for the country

Talking to the leaders of parliamentary factions, the president responded to Vladimir Zhirinovsky's remark by saying that cave nationalism only harms Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin believes that the slogan "Russia for Russians", which is often used by nationalists, harms the Russian nation. He expressed this opinion during a videoconference with the leaders of parliamentary factions.

"Cave nationalism, whose slogan is "Russia for Russians only", only harms Russians, only harms Russia and contributes to its rocking from within. And this we must not allow. Of course, we must ensure that the culture of each nation, its history, the origins of each nation are honored, developed and respected in our country," Putin said.

The president also said that the Russian people in Russia is the state-forming people, it is the basis of the country. "And in this sense, of course, the Russian person and the Russian people are interested in preserving the country, where they are the main constituent force. In order to preserve Russia, which is multi-ethnic and multi-confessional, so that the representative of each ethnicity, even the smallest, feels that this is his homeland, he has no other," the president added.

Putin was responding to the words of LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky. The politician expressed the opinion that migrants from Central Asia should not be allowed into Russia.

He promotes replacement migration from Central Asia, which began with him. Ruskie nationalists who get illusions about the government being somehow pro-Russian typically end up being murdered and jailed, just like the recent victim Murz, who was amusingly similar to Novichok in terms of views:

rbc.ru/politics/17/02/2021/602cea0a9a7947077d8a8070 (run it through a translator)

He's a globalist... just a slightly different kind of globalist...

Hey, can you read and comprehend English?


Where did I mention Russia? We already know that Russia is one big gulag even worse than Auschwitz and that Putin fries kittens for lunch.

So, do you recall when anyone in the Western "democracies" was asked if they wanted more migrants?

I do not know personally anyone who constitutes "demos" in western countries. Anyone I know is in "plebs" category and was never asked about anything other than a vote to legitimise one of variants choosed by someone else.

In Odessa, a center for the temporary accommodation of Ukrainian forces was hit.
According to preliminary information, the number of dead and wounded is about 300 people

twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1768629830067610071

Poland is rattling the sabers again taunting Putin.
Poland 'Warns' Putin: "We Can Do Something Unexpected"
Who is we and if you do a lot of people will die.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-warns-putin-we-can-do-something-unexpected/ar-BB1jYsXy?ocid=hpmsn&pc=EUPP_&cvid=6e73b280d61242109f5c9f247ba7a194&ei=14

It reminds me of the "communist" system in Poland. The outcome was known in advance but they still demanded that we vote for that exact reason.

Macron announced that there will be no limits in aid to Ukraine. But like France as usual, they will not lead offensive actions. How he is toying with them, dear mother.

If he sends an army, will others join? What do the people of the forum think, should Poland show solidarity and defend Odessa? A question for those who support Ukraine. Please give a direct answer, Yes/No, + whatever explanation you like.

Poland will not defend Odessa and will not send an army to Ukraine. This will never happen.

I'm not so sure, seems to me Tusk and Micorn are up to something, I hope they will not push Poland to war.
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@Ironside
Poland does not have enough men or equipment to go to war. I think Tusk would be dragged through the streets if he did that. Macron is just a retard and Frances arm is no where close to being ready for a war.

@PolAmKrakow
1. Poland has no need for an army focused on offensive doctrine -> No offensives actions needs to be performed until Poland becomes invaded

2. Poland's army and it's support should be enough to stall an hostile force until allied support arrives (if it arrives)

3. Drawing out the conflict that takes down the veil of fake masks in both Ukrainian, Belarussian and Russian society works in Poland's benefit due to being the most stable and profitable out of all 4 societies.

4. Eastern Europeans are one of the few solutions to Poland's demographic problems.

5. Poland has no need or benefit of Imperial ambitions if immigrants from the three societies start to invest their earnings in Poland or look favourably towards Polish investments in their own countries after positive experiences in Poland (despite transferring some wealth from Poland to their home country for trade, work or services performed).

6. Poland giving the option of being a safe haven for opposition from Belarus, Ukraine or Russia gives hope to said countries and potential to influence politics abroad with very little costs as long as Poland isn't drawn in to the eastern drama too much.

7. If opposition in Belarus&Russia do a takeover, one has to expect pro-German sympathies due to their fear or lack of respect for Polish elites/military/industry compared to Germany. Which Ukraine had clearly shown.

8. There are multiple outside forces with interest to make Poland meddle into more it can chew on. One has to be weary of it, and focus on the financial short term and long term gains as not to get outplayed by U.S, Germany, U.K or China

Sorry if this was mentioned on the thread already - is it coincidental that the presidential elections in RuSSia are held during the Ides of March? 🤔

(Sic semper tyrannis! lol)

MACRON TRIES TO MAKE CASE FOR WAR AGAINST RUSSIA TO HIS PUBLIC

bitchute.com/video/rrbrgegVnw2q/

schizostan
Delusional slug eating faggot ..... he's got napoleon syndrome .....

Polish86dude
He thinks that the is the new Napoleon but actually he is just a $hitty puppet in the hands of globalists

WoneMotie
This WEF queer needs to be hanging on a lamp post. Right beside is lover trudeau for treason.

One Nosy Bastard
It's truly ironic that the most homo of all pedo faggots are the ones that are most interested in fomenting wars. (((Macron))) is no different.

Swittmann
Nice try you lost Africa after 200 years Haiti is a DNC/French colony $hit hole. Your hundreds of dead Mercs and blown up $hit ain't working. But "we aren't at war with Russia".

xXDeathbysnusnuXx
If the French fall for what this cretin is saying they deserve whats will come to them, meh what do i know they voted for this puppet twice.

CrowGagged!
Typical shitbag globalist assbandit! guess that's why cvnts like him always lead from the rear!