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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



jon357
10 May 2024  #3001

there were no poisoning at all

The actual doctors disagree.

I am more concerned about his billions

Perhaps you should be more concerned about the kleptocrat Putler's billions.

about his inability to refuel a car

?

his unelected status

His party won the GE in 2019. Elections are about the parties not individual figures.

Bratwurst Boy
10 May 2024  #3002

Even here we celebrate our victory over Nazi German with the stress on Nazi.

Nah....even today many Europeans hate "the Germans", not the Nazis!

But seriously, it's hard to "hate Europe" back...as we are smack in the middle of it.....

mafketis
10 May 2024  #3003

wonder if the Germans hated Europe too...

russians are still dining out on WWII because they have nothing else... Galeev has written how originally glorification of WWII happened under Brezhnev to give the USSR a new national story.... instead of "We're building communism!" (by that time it was clear that building communism was a stupid thing to be doing) they chose "We beat the nazis!".... and nothing has replaced that because of the fundamentally stagnant nature of russia society...

"We were first in space!" didn't work

"We invaded Hungary and Czechoslovakia!" russians don't hate hungarians and/or czechoslovaks for that to take

"Our terrible brinkmanship almost led to Nuclear War!"

"We had the biggest nuclear accident!"

"Our system is so terrible it crashed and burned!"

"We've unleashed mafia wars!"

russians desperately need a new story but..... there are none in sight. the russian ruling class absolutely depends on the vast majority of society to be passive and unquestioning... and passive, unquestioning populations are not known for producing very much that's notable.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3004

?

'Doesn't his chauffeur normally do that for him?' 'Out of touch' millionaire Rishi Sunak presses contactless card to a barcode scanner to pay for petrol at Sainsbury's...after filling up a Kia Rio

russians desperately need a new story but..... there are none in sight.

You are not right, another is on its way.
"Former Brexit campaign chief Dominic Cummings says the West is getting f**ked by supporting Ukraine."

Bratwurst Boy
10 May 2024  #3005

See....the same way most people don't take care to say "the Nazis" many just say "the Russians", even as they mean "the Putinists"....when they hate and denigrate and blame and accuse.

People are like that, it's useless and senseless to hate whole people and continents back!

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3006

"the Russians", even as they mean "the Putinists".

What is wrong with being Putinist? I am Putinist myself, i voted for him.

Bratwurst Boy
10 May 2024  #3007

Yeah....and hence people don't like you and disagree with you!

That doesn't mean they hate Russia, are "russophobic"....that is just whining from people unable to accept that criticism! That my leader and his acts lead my country to being isolated and despised...it's so much easier than to accept that this is a consequence of the doings of my gov!

It's just a fact of life that invaders are not popular...never have been, no matter the apologies and pushed reasonings!

jon357
10 May 2024  #3008

Doesn't his chauffeur normally do that for him?

Don't heads of government normally have drivers?

What is wrong with being Putinist?

A great deal given his record.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3009

Perhaps you should be more concerned about the kleptocrat Putler's billions.

There are no evidences, only inspired by the west allegations.

Ironside
10 May 2024  #3010

For all your claims about Poland there is no evidence only Moscow inspired alllegations and we know how much Moscow likes to lie. So...

Velund
10 May 2024  #3011

It's just a fact of life that invaders are not popular...never have been, no matter the apologies and pushed reasonings!

Statistics about young Japanese tell opposite. Many even believe that nuclear bombing was done by Russia.

It depends of how tight is control over media, and how competent was brainwashing specialists.

mafketis
10 May 2024  #3012

another is on its way.

What is it then?

"We're an Imperial Power and the world fears us!" (probably what the zhopniks want but... has backfired fear of russia is far less now than it was a few years ago)

"We're dangerously unhinged and violent psychopaths!" (closer to reality but hardly anything to be proud of)

"We're sheep who do and say whatever the tsar tells us to!" (also true... but again.... why be proud of having no dignity?)

jon357
10 May 2024  #3013

There are no evidences

There's no such word as "evidences" however there is certainly plenty of evidence.

"We're an Imperial Power and the world fears us!"

Some of their brainwashed masses very much believe that.

Interesting that the line from the vatniks here today and yesterday seems to be that people living in free countries are so show brainwashed. It's part of the r*SSian playbook to accuse others of faults that are very much r*SSian.

They don't realise that people elsewhere have critical thinking skills superior to theirs and are not generally taken in by their BS.

Velund
10 May 2024  #3014

Ukrainian blogger Tatyana Montyan published yet another post in their TG-channel... Not directly related to Poland, but quite fun to read after discussions about freedom and democracy in this thread, especially in context of US politics... ;)

t.me/montyan2/7781

Politicians' love is never free 😜

Remember my post (t.me/montyan2/7770) about the scandalous letter from a pro-Israel group in the US Congress, in which 12 senators unpretentiously and unashamedly threatened the head of the ICC and his subordinates with all kinds of problems if an international arrest warrant is issued against #Netanyahu for the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza? Well, all these senators turn out to love Israel for a reason, and for very good money. They got a whopping $7 million from the pro-Israel lobbying organization AIPAC alone. 🤑

AIPAC is one of the largest lobbying organizations in the US, which unites about 100 thousand members mainly from the Jewish community in the US. Its annual budget is more than 100 million dollars. The money is spent on supporting pro-Israel candidates in elections and on anti-PR for those candidates who are skeptical of Israel. 😎

As a matter of fact, this is how things work in the United States. American politicians love no one for free, and Israel is no exception. Simply AIPAC and other Zionist organizations slept through the emergence of a very rich and ideological competitor in the person of Qatar, which created a similar lobbying organization CAIR and flooded it with stray money. And those turned out to be very active and bet on Soros and his structures, which gave such an incredible result as mass anti-Israeli protests in all US universities, and now also blocking arms supplies to Israel. 🤷‍♀️



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10 May 2024  #3015

Cummings is thankfully nowhere near the levers of power anymore and I fully expect his next gig will be Taniec z Gwiazdami.

Certainly a man who likes debating the issues but he was always in the room when disastrous decisions were taken.

No surprise he is turning into a North Nigerian shill - he spent a few years in 90s Moscow when anyone with a modicum of business experience could make money, Cummings somehow managed to lose a load and I assume someone has some kompromat on him.

jon357
10 May 2024  #3016

and I fully expect his next gig will be Taniec z Gwiazdami.

More likely Taniec za kratami.

he spent a few years in 90s Moscow

Him and a few others (I'm thinking Cambridge Analytica and their American chums) certainly know a few more things than they're saying, as do certain politicians, one in France waiting to be elected and one in Mar a Lago waiting to be sentenced.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3017

There's no such word as "evidences" however there is certainly plenty of evidence.

I dont need you f*ing advicES. We have such word in Russian and you will have it also!

jon357
10 May 2024  #3018

advicES

Advice.

There's no such word as advices.

We have such word in r*SSian

A shame you don't have indoor plumbing in your villages.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3019

@jon357
AdvicES, EvidencES. Shut up stupid brit. Your tongue is our tongue now.

jon357
10 May 2024  #3020

@ConstantineK
No, no such words.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3021

No, no such words.

Yes, your English is a construct language, everyone has a right to insert whatever he wants.

You do not have your own identity anymore. Brits is just a bunch of motley people today.

jon357
10 May 2024  #3022

Nobody cares what orcs think.

Now run along and see if you can publicly express views opposing your regime without being arrested.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3023

Now run along and see if you can publicly express views opposing your regime without being arrested.

Why should i? I totally support my government.

Crow
10 May 2024  #3024

I suggest to my Polish and Russian brethren here to focus on mutual cooperation instead on frictions. Main frictions are imposed by hostile strangers. Don`t accept to be manipulated and guided in situation that will only weaken our Slavic ie Sarmatian civilization. Because that is all about. We are all in front of new era of global civilizations.

Regards and love from Serbia

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3025

I suggest to my Polish and Russian brethren here to focus on mutual cooperation instead on frictions.

Poles are not Slavs, they are anglo-saxon's lapdogs

Crow
10 May 2024  #3026

Anglos retreat from continental Europe and Poland will stay where it is.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3027

A shame you don't have indoor plumbing in your villages.

Meanwhile toddlers are dying from whooping cough like in 19th century.

jon357
10 May 2024  #3028

Yes, your infant mortality rate is high and your male life expectancy is far lower than in the developed world.

Alien
10 May 2024  #3029

Poles are not Slavs

Have you had anything to drink? I thought you came to work sober.

ConstantineK
10 May 2024  #3030

Yes, your infant mortality rate is high and your male life expectancy is far lower than in the developed world.

Risks of being stubbed by machete on the streets of London are higher than in Africa.


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