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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



jon357
22 Mar 2024  #31

Americans

All of them?

but they still want to set the terms of what the Ukrainians are able to do

And they'll soon find out that this doesn't work.

cms neuf
22 Mar 2024  #32

We understand it is not American responsibility to save Ukraine and we understand why. We in Europa are all cool with that.

So having established that, can Ukraine carry on using its own money and its own weapons to attack Udmurtia's energy supply ?

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #33

BREAKING:

TERROR ATTACK IN MOSCOW AREA!!!!!

Supposedly three men in camouflage opened fire before a concert by the group Picnic. Over 10 dead and now supposedly the building is on fire sounds of an explosion were heard.

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1771227688885264570

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1771228178192773322

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1771229698409824606

My opinion: Probably a false flag that will be blamed on Ukrainians (though it is very far from their MO) and used to justify killing more Ukrainian civilians (which has always been the main goal of the war).

Velund
22 Mar 2024  #34

its own money and its own weapons to attack

To use something you should have this. Z already spent all ukrainian money, so it is dependant on external funding even to pay salaries to police and military. And, concerning "own weapons" - recently one of UAVs, heading toward one of cities near border, was shot down and not detonated as it fell. It was loaded by British plastic explosive.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #35

Now roof of venue where attack took place is said to be collapsing.... getting rid of evidence?

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1771231712317428096

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #36

Video from just before the attack with two men in uniform...

twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1771231619912786225

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #37

can Ukraine carry on using its own money and its own weapons to attack Udmurtia's energy supply ?

You are a slow learner.

Your guy, Biden, is not gonna get elected if the average price of a gallon of fuel shoots back up to $4.50+.

Trump will eviscerate funding for Ukraine.

Contrary to your wishes, Russia will not starve. Why? Because when you cannot refine crude you can always... sell crude. Surprise!

We may have problems with gasoline and diesel supply inside Russia, but Putin addressed that already by banning exports on those things.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #38

The moscow attack was foreseen....

twitter.com/KareemRifai/status/1771235043228172555

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #39

The moscow attack was foreseen..

Who benefits from this "false flag" exactly?

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #40

Your tsar or course, it's a good excuse for new mobilization... there is precedent second (cough cough) Chechen War....

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #41

it's a good excuse for new mobilization

The fact that there will be a second mobilization shortly following the elections, has been an open secret since last Spring.

Putin has nothing to fear now, in calling up a new wave.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #42

utin has nothing to fear now, in calling up a new wave

exactly.... many tens of thousands of russians will eagerly go to russia for the chance to rape children, torture and kill civilians... or maybe die in a ditch but that's a chance the average russia is willing to take....

special forces didn't show until an hour after things began.... suspicioso?

It might be a false flag to justify something worse of course. I keep thinking I couldn't possibly despise russia more but you guys keep raising the bar and getting that job done.

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #43

@mafketis

Well, the government is saying it's the Islamic State. American intelligence agencies warned us about it a week ago.

So your theory of this having something to do with Ukraine has just evaporated.

I just don't know why IS continues to attack us even though we have an anti-Israeli position.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #44

the government is saying it's the Islamic State

So an excuse to bomb Syria more.... I'm happy to be wrong.

don't know why IS continues to attack us even though we have an anti-Israeli position

Arabs don't care about Palestinians at all... every Arab country that let them in came to regret it. They only care about Palestinians as a club to bash jews with so being anti-Israel by itself doesn't cut it.

Islamists like the IS are like russia -- they think everywhere where there are muslims they should be in charge.... that's going to lead to confrontations especially in places with significant muslim minorities (like the ones putain's open borders policy has created in Moscow).

muslims = russians as non-assimilating troublesome minorities with no loyalty to their host country. Like attracts like only into conflict.

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #45

that's going to lead to confrontations

I hope the government identifies the relatives of these as*holes, wherever they are in Ingushetia, Dagestan, or elsewhere and bulldozes their goddamn houses.

They only feel they can raise their heads right now because their usual "friends" are currently busy in Ukraine.

We need to send them back to living in their little mountain dugouts, daily scanning the sky for loitering munitions.

The only people they hurt is other innocent Muslims in Russia and around the world, through their myopic actions.

If you want to see cannibals, Mafketis, these are the real cannibals.

jon357
22 Mar 2024  #46

It might be a false flag to justify something worse of course.

If it was, it would be far from the first time.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #47

We need to send them back

russian nationalists who suggested that had a weird habit of falling out of windows....

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #48

Those nationalists would say, "Russia for Russians".

They deserve to fall out of windows, because in essence they advocate for the implosion of Russia.

There was always societal consensus that those other AQ and IS-affiliated troglodytes must be made a permanent part of the past - preferably through killing each and every one of them.

Over the course of the early 2000s we managed to practically finish the job. That's what I'm referring to when talking about mountain dugouts.

These guys could find no shelter, even in the smallest villages, because people would immediately snitch on them. So they lived in the mountains, like billy goats, eating berries and sleeping in holes. Periodically, they would get a visit from a heliborne rocket barrage or cruise missile, but otherwise their life had somewhat normalized and fallen into a routine.

Now, with this mall attack, they should start packing their little hiking bags again. Except, people are much more angry now, because this is a tremendous stab in the back to do something like this, while we are at war.

cms neuf
22 Mar 2024  #49

So your security apparatus were warned a week ago, about concerts.

And did nothing apart from open another packet of cigarettes. No extra security for concert halls.

Typical

Novichok
22 Mar 2024  #50

We have already discussed how much I have donated,

Donations are not discussions. They are numbers in dollars.

they still want to set the terms of what the Ukrainians are able to do to defend their country.

No. Americans want Ukraine to fvck off and find another pimp.

Hey, cms, please don't speak about or on behalf of the US. We owe you, Euros, sh*it.

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #51

So your security apparatus were warned a week ago, about concerts

Yes. Problem, big problem.

Even America warned us.

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #52

Ughhh, just... so stressed out by these people.

For what?

Do they think they will overthrow the Russian government, or do they just want to scare us?

In both scenarios their logic is beyond retarded. Truly a "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind" situation.

Novichok
22 Mar 2024  #53

In both scenarios their logic is beyond retarded

....but the morons here will never let go. When the white-red-blue flag is flying over Kiev, they will still be predicting Russia's imminent defeat.

Hey, morons, the war is over and lost by U. From now on, the only question is how many good men will die during the mop-up operation. See: the last days of WW2. Also: Hitler and Eva.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #54

Do they think they will overthrow the Russian government, or do they just want to scare us?

"Do they think they will overthrow the Ukrainian government, or do they just want to scare us?"

Pretty much what most Ukrainians think about russia.... as I said russian imperialism is the same thought model as political islamism just with different values plugged in.

Novichok
22 Mar 2024  #55

as I said russian imperialis

Hey, annoying man, you can lowercase "Russia" a thousand times a day and it will not help U win.

mafketis
22 Mar 2024  #56

you can lowercase "russia" a thousand times a day

And it burns you up! HA!

Bobko
22 Mar 2024  #57

as I said russian imperialism is the same thought model as political islamism just with different values plugged in.

We don't glory in killing women and children.

When the West accuses us of it, we twist and wriggle like a snake, because the thought is odious to us as well.

Our record in Ukraine, versus the holocaust the Jews are perpetrating in Gaza is the best proof of this.

Where have you seen political Islam apologize for the death of innocents, or at least go through the motions of trying to deny it?

Russia is a Christian country at its essence, we do not enjoy spilling the blood of innocents.

cms neuf
22 Mar 2024  #58

But today the Udmurtians and Chinese vetoed a Gaza ceasefire demand at the UN. That is completely inconsistent with what you just said.

Novichok
22 Mar 2024  #59

But today the Udmurtians and

Hey, stupid, there is no such country at the UN.

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2024  #60

And now Vlad is mobilizing 100K men for a new summer offensive. Z is doing what? Dancing with bells on his balls? 100K more men and a winter full of munitions and missile production. Obviously the last few days show Russia has no shortage of weapons. If Z doesnt pull his head out of his a$$, some Russian soldier may do it for him when they roll into Kiev. How stupid can one person be?


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